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Stop arguing about what is or isn't killing tournaments.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
January 19 2013 17:30 GMT
#1741
Now, let the fight over the protoss third commence.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
January 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#1742
One strong reason for Zerg's struggling was the patch. The combination of infestor nerfs: IT's, fungal and even the eggs is probably the biggest nerf in the game since beta. Zerg win rates will plummet to the joy of so many.

There is also the fact Parting and First at the minimum were the two highest caliber players here.
Red and yellow are all I see
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
January 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#1743
On January 20 2013 02:21 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.


I've honestly been wondering that the whole weekend. Is the IT nerf that bad for WoL?

My HoTS games in PvZ have been going well when I'm usually losing convincingly. Does it really deter people that much to avoid ITs?


I don't think it is bad for WoL, quite the opposite actually. But i do think that Zerg is doing worse because of the Infestor nerf. Next to every Zerg game i have seen the last few months has been an Infestor based build. Now that these builds don't work as well anymore Zerg players are forced to come up with new builds, and they may not have adapted quite yet.

I am really looking forward to see how this patch is going to affect Zerg in future tournaments. I know that the term "patchzerg" is frowned upon, but i nevertheless think that it is a little funny the first tournament after Infestor nerf, has the worst Zerg representation of any major tournament in the last six months
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#1744
omg baneling detonating on rocks :[
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 17:33:49
January 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#1745
TLO you are drunk, go home.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
January 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#1746
tlo you are looking sloppy -_-
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 17:31:36
January 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#1747
On January 20 2013 02:30 Kasaraki wrote:
Now, let the fight over the protoss third commence.


might be a weird zeal/archon all in.
which should work.
Zest fanboy.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
January 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#1748
On January 20 2013 02:30 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:29 Talack wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:26 AgentW wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:21 AgentW wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.

I think the IT nerf is scaring people away from using them more than rendering them ineffective, from what I've seen.

The only game where I really noticed a difference was Kas vs Golden on Metropolis. Golden tried to fight 3-3 BCs with 0-0 ITs. It was pretty funny to see

Yeah, the 3-3 BC army is pretty much unkillable now, I suppose. You pretty much have to make 1000 corruptors and then Terran makes all marines and a-moves.


Gee, I wonder if that's the same as having to overmake viking/raven and then dieing to a mass ling or roach or ultra or anything ground switch

You have infestors still, they are good against all unit combinations so that sort of swap is not nearly as good as you make it seem, and getting 3-3 BCs is an ENORMOUS investment, like 3-4 starports with tech labs, then like 8 minutes to fully research 3-3 and then also the 300-200 cost of BCs and the supply. It's not easy, it's not even comparable to anything that a zerg would do since their tech swaps are much easier to do.


400-300. You don't tech switch to bc. You either play someone who refuse to attack or Metropolis.


Exactly, thanks for clairifying
Instigata
Profile Joined April 2004
United States546 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1749
i hope no one is reasoning balance with TLO's zerg
SC2 was doomed from the start.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1750
fuck he went mutas
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1751
TLO had terrible micro, could have broken through with the Banelings...
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1752
dat bane control
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1753
Control. Do you have it.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1754
On January 20 2013 02:32 Instigata wrote:
i hope no one is reasoning balance with TLO's zerg


you don't like his ZvT vs first ?
Zest fanboy.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 17:32:59
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1755
Sick sim city from First! :O He had already prepared for the possibility of a counter bust.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1756
Spines should of been in natural or main, not third.
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1757
lets hope socke or kas beat first
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
January 19 2013 17:32 GMT
#1758
Ugh this is painful to watch
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
January 19 2013 17:33 GMT
#1759
fuck tlo loses
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
January 19 2013 17:33 GMT
#1760
Well TLO its been nice knowing you.
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