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On January 20 2013 01:31 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:30 LimitSEA wrote:
YoDa's got some fucking beastly macro. Jumped to max vs 150 supply out of nowhere. TBH this is something you see a lot. Going for a shit ton of bio+vikings is usually able to max a lot quicker than the P army.
Protoss going colossus SHOULD be about 30 ongoing to 50 supply behind the T. Yoda maxed quickly but not ridiculously quickly. Also, Grubby wasn't too greedy. He wasn't greedy enough. Needed to transition into storm faster. Seeing 7 rax AND 2 starports should be a cue to face a maxed timing real soon.
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On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_-
Not sure if serious
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On January 20 2013 01:39 marcesr wrote:
Too bad... Ro8 with TLO, Socke and Grubby would have been so nice
I like Grubby but PvP is the most boring shit ever so im kinda glad he lost.
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On January 20 2013 01:40 etherealfall wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:31 Mohdoo wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 LimitSEA wrote:
YoDa's got some fucking beastly macro. Jumped to max vs 150 supply out of nowhere. TBH this is something you see a lot. Going for a shit ton of bio+vikings is usually able to max a lot quicker than the P army. Protoss going colossus SHOULD be about 30 ongoing to 50 supply behind the T. Yoda maxed quickly but not ridiculously quickly. Also, Grubby wasn't too greedy. He wasn't greedy enough. Needed to transition into storm faster. Seeing 7 rax AND 2 starports should be a cue to face a maxed timing real soon.
14.15 max.
Not ridiculously quickly. Hell what is it? 13.30 max?
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On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_-
You did not make an objective statement.
As much as I love Grubby, I prefer watching the absolute best players in the world competing.
You know in sports you have the term good x (x = the sport). Well I want to see some good Starcraft... man Yoda vs Parting is going to be so high level and so awesome! :D
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On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_-
No, people that don't enjoy watching Starcraft and are only here to see them white dudes winning are killing tournaments and Starcraft. If you are unable to enjoy great games, just because there are only Koreans involved...well, you really should search for a different hobby.
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On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- Not sure if serious
You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out.
On January 20 2013 01:42 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- No, people that don't enjoy watching Starcraft and are only here to see them white dudes winning are killing tournaments and Starcraft. If you are unable to enjoy great games, just because there are only Koreans involved...well, you really should search for a different hobby.
Dude there is no need to speak as though I or BretZ are anything like that. But the majority of the people who watch SC2 (newsflash, a lot of them don't even know about TL.net or post here) are actually a lot like that, whether they admit it or not.
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hmmm they have 4h to play-out 4 Bo5... Could be hard.
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On January 20 2013 01:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- Not sure if serious You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out.
What are you gonna do about it? Force every player to do stand up before a match?
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TLO with his scarf 
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On January 20 2013 01:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:Tbh I think Yoda was maxed that fast because he forgot to build an armory an made units instead 
i was half watching the game so it's possible. He went really light on gas too with only a few ghost while a more conventionnal quick 200 would try to have a balanced composition, it was really a kill move here. That would explain the 30/45s difference with a classic 14.45/15.00 max.
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On January 20 2013 01:43 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- Not sure if serious You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out. What are you gonna do about it? Force every player to do stand up before a match?
I'm not gonna do anything because it's not my problem. But like I said, if you think that most SC2 viewers are not like that then lol...
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 20 2013 01:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- Not sure if serious You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out.
That attitude of "I won't watch because the players are korean/show no emotion" is retarded and what's "killing tournaments".
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On January 20 2013 01:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- Not sure if serious You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out. Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:42 ES.Genie wrote:On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- No, people that don't enjoy watching Starcraft and are only here to see them white dudes winning are killing tournaments and Starcraft. If you are unable to enjoy great games, just because there are only Koreans involved...well, you really should search for a different hobby. Dude there is no need to speak as though I or BretZ are anything like that. But the majority of the people who watch SC2 (newsflash, a lot of them don't even know about TL.net or post here) are actually a lot like that, whether they admit it or not.
Wait, what tournaments have died?
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So much love for Poland from the players.
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On January 20 2013 01:34 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. Tournaments are not dying out, in fact, people complain there is an overflow of them. Look at this one, a relatively minor one, yet is racking in 30k viewers. And I for one prefer skill way over personality.
30k is about half of what IEM once had and sadly is becoming the SC2 standard.
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On January 20 2013 01:42 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.
People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though. People like you are killing tournaments ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF. People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_- No, people that don't enjoy watching Starcraft and are only here to see them white dudes winning are killing tournaments and Starcraft. If you are unable to enjoy great games, just because there are only Koreans involved...well, you really should search for a different hobby.
Because that's certainly what I was saying.
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