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Stop arguing about what is or isn't killing tournaments.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
January 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1481
A german talking about making Polish people proud...
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1482
On January 20 2013 01:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 01:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.

People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though.


People like you are killing tournaments


ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF.

People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_-


Not sure if serious



You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out.


That attitude of "I won't watch because the players are korean/show no emotion" is retarded and what's "killing tournaments".


But he's not displaying the attitude. Nor am I. We are just saying that it's there and a lot of people have it. You're arguing with the wrong person here...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
January 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1483
On January 20 2013 01:45 kakaman wrote:
A german talking about making Polish people proud...


Oh hahaah, bringing up WW2 eh.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
myzael
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Poland605 Posts
January 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1484
On January 20 2013 01:45 kakaman wrote:
A german talking about making Polish people proud...

And what's wrong with that?
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 16:48:20
January 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1485
On January 20 2013 01:44 pmp10 wrote:
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On January 20 2013 01:34 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.

People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though.


Tournaments are not dying out, in fact, people complain there is an overflow of them. Look at this one, a relatively minor one, yet is racking in 30k viewers. And I for one prefer skill way over personality.

30k is about half of what IEM once had and sadly is becoming the SC2 standard.


Eh? Cannot remember many 60k IEM streams, especially not ones where it was clearly between Sc2 and other titles.

edit: damnit, meant 60k not 30 >_<
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
January 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1486
On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.

People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though.


People like you are killing tournaments


ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF.

People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_-
I'm not sure you can call it a neutral perspective. If your opinion is completely neutral and fine, why are you spamming caps lock and being arrogant about it? You may not be killing off eSports, but people like you are the doomsayers that absolutely no-one appreciates.

Anyway, TLO fighting! Doubt he can stand up to First though, he went 5-0 in his group.
A mind sharper than any blade.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1487
Dont we usually have this discussion once all of the foreigners are eliminated? There's still 3 left and 1 is guaranteed a semifinal spot
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1488
I just returned after seeing the first game of the day. How were the others?
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1489
Calling it now: TLO to take the whole thing
Bora Pain minha porra!
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 16:46:42
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1490
It seems to be quite cold in that huge ass arena. Google Weather says its -8 C° in Katowice.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1491
On January 20 2013 01:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Dont we usually have this discussion once all of the foreigners are eliminated? There's still 3 left and 1 is guaranteed a semifinal spot

Yeah but we gotta find a way to discuss how dead sc2 is. LOOK AT HOW DEAD WE ARE SO FUCKING DEAD LITERALLY NO SPONSORS SC2 IS DEAD BURY THE CORPSE ALL HAIL DOTO GAMES.
Glorious SEA doto
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 16:48:13
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1492
Sigh....I guess my tongue in cheek wasn't good enough. Stop arguing about it.
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1493
On January 20 2013 01:44 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 01:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Tbh I think Yoda was maxed that fast because he forgot to build an armory an made units instead


i was half watching the game so it's possible. He went really light on gas too with only a few ghost while a more conventionnal quick 200 would try to have a balanced composition, it was really a kill move here. That would explain the 30/45s difference with a classic 14.45/15.00 max.

The wink was because Yoda lost his factory before making an armory, so he had to remake the factory before getting to the armory.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 16:47:08
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1494
On January 20 2013 01:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 01:43 Fusilero wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.

People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though.


People like you are killing tournaments


ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF.

People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_-


Not sure if serious



You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out.

What are you gonna do about it? Force every player to do stand up before a match?


I'm not gonna do anything because it's not my problem. But like I said, if you think that most SC2 viewers are not like that then lol...


Oh it is like that, and he was not just "pointing it out" he took a side. People are just ripping him a new one because it's frustratingly stupid the scene is like this and has been for awhile.
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
January 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#1495
On January 20 2013 01:46 Sbrubbles wrote:
Calling it now: TLO to take the whole thing


Thats silly. Socke has this tournament in the bag.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1496
Grubby put up a good fight. Gj man, you'll get to that final spot if you keep hangin' in there.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1497
On January 20 2013 01:45 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 01:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:42 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 20 2013 01:30 BretZ wrote:
sigh, this is what is killing tournaments. No one wants to watch a silent, stale face korean win a tournament. It's an age old story that doesn't change i suppose.

People prefer a talkative chobo than a silent gosu. talkative gosu is best though.


People like you are killing tournaments


ROFL MY FUCKING ASS OFF.

People who state the obvious truth from a neutral and objective perspective are the ones who are killing tournaments? Great logic... -_-


Not sure if serious



You are delusional if you think what BretZ said is any different from the truth. It's a sad state of affairs but it is the one we're currently in and the one we've been in for a while, and all he was doing was pointing it out.


That attitude of "I won't watch because the players are korean/show no emotion" is retarded and what's "killing tournaments".


But he's not displaying the attitude. Nor am I. We are just saying that it's there and a lot of people have it. You're arguing with the wrong person here...


Look at his first post. He definitely does display that attitude. Which is why I said people like him (with that attitude) are hurting the scene/tournaments.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
January 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1498
Just stating what a common opinion of Starcraft 2 viewing is. Never said any tournaments have died, nor that the game is dying, just simply people prefer emotion and story lines over gameplay. Never said myself
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1499
On January 20 2013 01:47 LittLeD wrote:
Grubby put up a good fight. Gj man, you'll get to that final spot if you keep hangin' in there.

Isn't he in world finals from singapore?
Glorious SEA doto
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
January 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1500
On January 20 2013 01:46 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 01:46 Sbrubbles wrote:
Calling it now: TLO to take the whole thing


Thats silly. Socke has this tournament in the bag.


I feel like both would lose against the koreans...
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