The time has come for our forty-fifth IGN Pro League Fight Club! This is a weekly king of the hill showmatch series. Basically, there will be a 1 vs. 1 best of 9 showmatch each and every week, where the winner will earn a $500 prize and a $100 bounty on their head. For example, if a player wins three weeks in a row they will have earned $1,500 and a $300 bounty. If a NEW challenger defeats him, they will earn $500 for the showmatch, take the $300 bounty home, and have a new $100 bounty placed on their head for each week that they win.
When: Tuesday, Jan 15 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also broadcast the match repeatedly afterwards!)
Creator.Prime is a multiple champion, but often is overlooked when considering the best Protoss in the world. He's one of the top 5 Protoss in the world, truly fearsome with his gateway play.
Creator.Prime
Liquid.Zenio has gradually slipped out of relevance. Now, he's dropped out of Code A, and the only glory left to him is as a solid opener in team leagues; however, we still have faith in him. It takes real cojones to stick in the GSL 14 seasons in a row. Zenio still has a lot of excellent play left to show, and hopefully he'll take the surprise win here.
I love me some Zenio, I hope he does well but safe money is on creator. Ah well, hopefully there will be some scrappy late game craziness to entertain us all.
On January 15 2013 05:01 Bagration wrote: Zenio is screwed. Then again, Sting was able to upset Leenock in a Bo9 here no less, so Zenio winning isn't an impossibility. 6 pool to victory
But Sting had won a somewhat difficult tournament right before he beat Leenock..
Zenio's recent ZvP accomplishments are beating HasuObs and HotS pro White-Ra and closely edging out Titan while losing to ROX.KIS.Pomi and in a Proleague BO1 to free.
I mentioned this in one of your other threads already as well, but all your time entries are still in 2012, which is why it says Sunday January 15th instead of Tuesday January 15th (in CET timezone). Please update your templates to 2013.
They're setting creator up for a massive bounty for hyun to make his grand return to claim because IPL has not given quite enough money to hyun yet.
Thats the plan, have HyuN get a personal sponsorship with IGN by having him defeat Creator's 13 game streak. Then he continues a second reign of terror that goes on to infinity.
I feel like if he can get to BL/Inf skill differential is lessened. The toss has to do a lot more than the Zerg to pull out the W. Not balance whine, just my oppinion/the unarguable truth.
I really love you. You are a great player. When you went teamless after leaving oGs, I was saddened. When I heard you joined TL, I leaped for joy. Basically, you're awesome.
On January 15 2013 07:54 Rjlraymond wrote: I feel like if he can get to BL/Inf skill differential is lessened. The toss has to do a lot more than the Zerg to pull out the W. Not balance whine, just my oppinion/the unarguable truth.
..... So do you bring this up in every pvz thread?
On January 15 2013 07:56 Seeker wrote: Dear Zenio:
I really love you. You are a great player. When you went teamless after leaving oGs, I was saddened. When I heard you joined TL, I leaped for joy. Basically, you're awesome.
But Creator is too good and you are going to get roflstomped. Best of luck.
How saddened were you really? I wonder how saddened you were by this compared to other saddening events in the Starcraft scene. Better make a poll to find out.
On January 15 2013 07:56 Seeker wrote: Dear Zenio:
I really love you. You are a great player. When you went teamless after leaving oGs, I was saddened. When I heard you joined TL, I leaped for joy. Basically, you're awesome.
But Creator is too good and you are going to get roflstomped. Best of luck.
How saddened were you really? I wonder how saddened you were by this compared to other saddening events in the Starcraft scene. Better make a poll to find out.
On January 15 2013 07:56 Seeker wrote: Dear Zenio:
I really love you. You are a great player. When you went teamless after leaving oGs, I was saddened. When I heard you joined TL, I leaped for joy. Basically, you're awesome.
But Creator is too good and you are going to get roflstomped. Best of luck.
How saddened were you really? I wonder how saddened you were by this compared to other saddening events in the Starcraft scene. Better make a poll to find out.
On January 15 2013 07:56 Seeker wrote: Dear Zenio:
I really love you. You are a great player. When you went teamless after leaving oGs, I was saddened. When I heard you joined TL, I leaped for joy. Basically, you're awesome.
But Creator is too good and you are going to get roflstomped. Best of luck.
How saddened were you really? I wonder how saddened you were by this compared to other saddening events in the Starcraft scene. Better make a poll to find out.
And get him banned or warned again?
He has a star now, which is like guardian shield, except even more awesomer.
I've seen people trying to go for Hydras on Daybreak recently, and it never works. They always get trapped behind the FFs in the third base of the Zerg and never pay off.
On January 15 2013 07:56 Seeker wrote: Dear Zenio:
I really love you. You are a great player. When you went teamless after leaving oGs, I was saddened. When I heard you joined TL, I leaped for joy. Basically, you're awesome.
But Creator is too good and you are going to get roflstomped. Best of luck.
How saddened were you really? I wonder how saddened you were by this compared to other saddening events in the Starcraft scene. Better make a poll to find out.
On January 15 2013 09:46 usethis2 wrote: What happens if Z goes for 2 base lair against immortal-sentry? (presumably infestors or mutas)
P just doesn't push out when there is no 3rd.
On January 15 2013 09:47 opterown wrote: strange, hrmm. i think i got the results incorrect rofl, i was fairly sure creator dropped that game on abyssal? lol
On January 15 2013 09:47 opterown wrote: strange, hrmm. i think i got the results incorrect rofl, i was fairly sure creator dropped that game on abyssal? lol
On January 15 2013 09:47 opterown wrote: strange, hrmm. i think i got the results incorrect rofl, i was fairly sure creator dropped that game on abyssal? lol
Perhaps you were persuaded by the unquenchable optimism of Kibblez that Zenio would win.
On January 15 2013 07:56 Seeker wrote: Dear Zenio:
I really love you. You are a great player. When you went teamless after leaving oGs, I was saddened. When I heard you joined TL, I leaped for joy. Basically, you're awesome.
But Creator is too good and you are going to get roflstomped. Best of luck.
How saddened were you really? I wonder how saddened you were by this compared to other saddening events in the Starcraft scene. Better make a poll to find out.
And get him banned or warned again?
He has a star now, which is like guardian shield, except even more awesomer.
If Creator performs this push as well as shown here (and his Z opponents decides to go hydras), he should easily be in Ro16 in this season GSL. With Parting and Squirtle defecting from ST, Creator is now my favorite protoss.
On January 15 2013 09:59 usethis2 wrote: If Creator performs this push as well as shown here (and his Z opponents decides to go hydras), he should easily be in Ro16 in this season GSL.
Symbol and Life stopped using Hydras, so no easy "because of Hydras" wins for Creator. But still, Creator's PvZ is the best in the world probably, and I expect him to destroy Symbol and get close to defeating Life.
On January 15 2013 09:59 usethis2 wrote: If Creator performs this push as well as shown here (and his Z opponents decides to go hydras), he should easily be in Ro16 in this season GSL. With Parting and Squirtle defecting from ST, Creator is now my favorite protoss.
I think Life would crush this, Byul and Symbol are also way better than Zenio currently. I think he will need a few more tricks.
On January 15 2013 09:59 usethis2 wrote: If Creator performs this push as well as shown here (and his Z opponents decides to go hydras), he should easily be in Ro16 in this season GSL.
Symbol and Life stopped using Hydras, so no easy "because of Hydras" wins for Creator. But still, Creator's PvZ is the best in the world probably, and I expect him to destroy Symbol and get close to defeating Life.
He's never lost a series against Life. There's no reason to believe he'll drop one now.
On January 15 2013 09:59 usethis2 wrote: If Creator performs this push as well as shown here (and his Z opponents decides to go hydras), he should easily be in Ro16 in this season GSL.
Symbol and Life stopped using Hydras, so no easy "because of Hydras" wins for Creator. But still, Creator's PvZ is the best in the world probably, and I expect him to destroy Symbol and get close to defeating Life.
He's never lost a series against Life. There's no reason to believe he'll drop one now.
creator has lost to life before, but creator does hold a fairly solid h2h i think. 10-6? something like that
On January 15 2013 09:59 usethis2 wrote: If Creator performs this push as well as shown here (and his Z opponents decides to go hydras), he should easily be in Ro16 in this season GSL.
Symbol and Life stopped using Hydras, so no easy "because of Hydras" wins for Creator. But still, Creator's PvZ is the best in the world probably, and I expect him to destroy Symbol and get close to defeating Life.
He's never lost a series against Life. There's no reason to believe he'll drop one now.
On January 15 2013 09:59 usethis2 wrote: If Creator performs this push as well as shown here (and his Z opponents decides to go hydras), he should easily be in Ro16 in this season GSL.
Symbol and Life stopped using Hydras, so no easy "because of Hydras" wins for Creator. But still, Creator's PvZ is the best in the world probably, and I expect him to destroy Symbol and get close to defeating Life.
He's never lost a series against Life. There's no reason to believe he'll drop one now.
creator has lost to life before, but creator does hold a fairly solid h2h i think. 10-6? something like that
Well it's true Creator didn't lose a series... not there is alot to go by.
I don't know why Creator did not use this push more in his series against DRG in Iron Squid? iirc, he won one map against DRG and that was with this push. The rest of maps (losses) were stargate openings.
On January 15 2013 10:09 usethis2 wrote: I don't know why Creator did not use this push more in his series against DRG in Iron Squid? iirc, he won one map against DRG and that was with this push. The rest of maps (losses) were stargate openings.
DRG-creator was played at the end of 2012 - dec 24th or 27th or something like that. this series i'm not really sure when was played, i think i got it wrong, but probably this year?
Why IPL always has bad casters. I Really don't get it. They do everything right, huge prize pools, best players, great shows, and always so bad casters.
On January 15 2013 10:09 usethis2 wrote: I don't know why Creator did not use this push more in his series against DRG in Iron Squid? iirc, he won one map against DRG and that was with this push. The rest of maps (losses) were stargate openings.
To be fair the 2nd map he SHOULD won... he somehow faked a 3rd but didn't cancel, and let lings got into his nat. If either didn't happen he'd had it.
On January 15 2013 10:11 Avicularia wrote: Why IPL always has bad casters. I Really don't get it. They do everything right, huge prize pools, best players, great shows, and always so bad casters.
I think they are OK for this. Casters need a ton of practice to be good, and it's good to have in house casters.
On January 15 2013 10:11 Avicularia wrote: Why IPL always has bad casters. I Really don't get it. They do everything right, huge prize pools, best players, great shows, and always so bad casters.
I think they are OK for this. Casters need a ton of practice to be good, and it's good to have in house casters.
Well, ok. They're not funny yet, they want to be too much like artosis and tasteless, they can learn how to be better I get it. But c'mon, someone ho has no legs, doesn't is not a football player, someone blind is not a driver, and someone that has speech defect should not be the caster. It's just too hard to listen.
On January 15 2013 10:32 Avicularia wrote: Creator should just send 2-3 stalkers back and expand. No idea why he went up the ramp. He knew infestors and spines are there.
At this point he was already lost because those Zergling shut down his economy.
i think there was a point after killing zenio's tech in the main, where creator could have gone back and double expanded. zenio was turtling on one base and creator had enough army to defend zenio's possible moveout. with 2.5 mining bases to 1, creator could have taken it? but yeah, he stayed in too long
On January 15 2013 10:34 opterown wrote: i think there was a point after killing zenio's tech in the main, where creator could have gone back and double expanded. zenio was turtling on one base and creator had enough army to defend zenio's possible moveout. with 2.5 mining bases to 1, creator could have taken it? but yeah, he stayed in too long
creator probably should have killed the mining bases before killing the tech. But i guess he was afraid that zenio might have enough of a bank
Wonder who they are going to send next against Creator. Are they trying to have another HyuN situation come up (14 wins) and then invite HyuN to see who is the better player in FC?
EPT
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