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On January 14 2013 01:50 Hiea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 01:47 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:45 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:43 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:40 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:30 sitromit wrote:On January 13 2013 23:22 Meggiroth wrote:On January 13 2013 23:18 Seiniyta wrote:On January 13 2013 22:47 Meggiroth wrote:
Life>Goswser
MC>MKP
Scarlett>Nestea
Stephano>Drg
Life vs Goswser is a nobrainer and i have a feelin the bosstoss is back in bussiness and won't go down easy even against MKP,
If Scarlett can beat Drg, she can handle Nestea as well, same story for Stephano who rolled over Drg last time they met. So was MVP vs Gowser supposed to be a no-brainer. MVP isn't in his top shape for a while now while Life just beat Leenok so yes, I still believe its a no brainer. I'll eat my sox for breakfast if goswser gets a map from Life. You realize these games are cross server right? It's ZvZ, there are banelings, anyone can drop a map to an all in. I think that life can just play safe to the roach/infestor point of the game, and even if he is behind he will crush goswser anyway, that's how superior players win, they don't take risks against inferior opponents. ZvZ is only a knifefight if you try and play greedy, because that means you NEED banes to survive. you cant have roachs out to stop banelings in time, and even if you do your opponent has a drone lead and takes a free third Queens and 2 spines with banelings is enough, the amount of latency should not be a problem for Life aslong as he plays defensively. Also what I was saying is that he plays safe, even if goswser gets an advantage, I believe Life will just win anyway. if you have 2 spines then your opponent has a drone lead and just takes a free third ZvZ is a match up where one drone more then your opponent is a big deal you cant just play safe and expect that to workplus thats not lifes style Yes, and if Life was playing Leenock or DongRaeGu, then that would be a problem, but he isn't, he is playing goswser, therefor he will win regardless of being behind a little, that's my whole point, he avoids any coinflip by playing safe, it's how almost every korean pro will play against lesser opponents, to risk getting knocked out by some odd cheese.
My experience in ZvZ is if you play it save against someone who isn't you don't fall behind 'a little' but really a lot. More than in any other matchup.
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On January 14 2013 01:50 Hiea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 01:47 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:45 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:43 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:40 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:30 sitromit wrote:On January 13 2013 23:22 Meggiroth wrote:On January 13 2013 23:18 Seiniyta wrote:On January 13 2013 22:47 Meggiroth wrote:
Life>Goswser
MC>MKP
Scarlett>Nestea
Stephano>Drg
Life vs Goswser is a nobrainer and i have a feelin the bosstoss is back in bussiness and won't go down easy even against MKP,
If Scarlett can beat Drg, she can handle Nestea as well, same story for Stephano who rolled over Drg last time they met. So was MVP vs Gowser supposed to be a no-brainer. MVP isn't in his top shape for a while now while Life just beat Leenok so yes, I still believe its a no brainer. I'll eat my sox for breakfast if goswser gets a map from Life. You realize these games are cross server right? It's ZvZ, there are banelings, anyone can drop a map to an all in. I think that life can just play safe to the roach/infestor point of the game, and even if he is behind he will crush goswser anyway, that's how superior players win, they don't take risks against inferior opponents. ZvZ is only a knifefight if you try and play greedy, because that means you NEED banes to survive. you cant have roachs out to stop banelings in time, and even if you do your opponent has a drone lead and takes a free third Queens and 2 spines with banelings is enough, the amount of latency should not be a problem for Life aslong as he plays defensively. Also what I was saying is that he plays safe, even if goswser gets an advantage, I believe Life will just win anyway. if you have 2 spines then your opponent has a drone lead and just takes a free third ZvZ is a match up where one drone more then your opponent is a big deal you cant just play safe and expect that to workplus thats not lifes style Yes, and if Life was playing Leenock or DongRaeGu, then that would be a problem, but he isn't, he is playing goswser, therefor he will win regardless of being behind a little, that's my whole point, he avoids any coinflip by playing safe, it's how almost every korean pro will play against lesser opponents, to risk getting knocked out by some odd cheese.
Hoo hoo. Life vs elfi.
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On January 14 2013 01:55 catplanetcatplanet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 01:50 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:47 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:45 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:43 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:40 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:30 sitromit wrote:On January 13 2013 23:22 Meggiroth wrote:On January 13 2013 23:18 Seiniyta wrote:On January 13 2013 22:47 Meggiroth wrote:
Life>Goswser
MC>MKP
Scarlett>Nestea
Stephano>Drg
Life vs Goswser is a nobrainer and i have a feelin the bosstoss is back in bussiness and won't go down easy even against MKP,
If Scarlett can beat Drg, she can handle Nestea as well, same story for Stephano who rolled over Drg last time they met. So was MVP vs Gowser supposed to be a no-brainer. MVP isn't in his top shape for a while now while Life just beat Leenok so yes, I still believe its a no brainer. I'll eat my sox for breakfast if goswser gets a map from Life. You realize these games are cross server right? It's ZvZ, there are banelings, anyone can drop a map to an all in. I think that life can just play safe to the roach/infestor point of the game, and even if he is behind he will crush goswser anyway, that's how superior players win, they don't take risks against inferior opponents. ZvZ is only a knifefight if you try and play greedy, because that means you NEED banes to survive. you cant have roachs out to stop banelings in time, and even if you do your opponent has a drone lead and takes a free third Queens and 2 spines with banelings is enough, the amount of latency should not be a problem for Life aslong as he plays defensively. Also what I was saying is that he plays safe, even if goswser gets an advantage, I believe Life will just win anyway. if you have 2 spines then your opponent has a drone lead and just takes a free third ZvZ is a match up where one drone more then your opponent is a big deal you cant just play safe and expect that to workplus thats not lifes style Yes, and if Life was playing Leenock or DongRaeGu, then that would be a problem, but he isn't, he is playing goswser, therefor he will win regardless of being behind a little, that's my whole point, he avoids any coinflip by playing safe, it's how almost every korean pro will play against lesser opponents, to risk getting knocked out by some odd cheese. Hoo hoo. Life vs elfi.
I do think elfi could take out Life.... just because elfi is elfi.
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your Country52798 Posts
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On January 14 2013 01:57 Hiea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 01:55 catplanetcatplanet wrote:On January 14 2013 01:50 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:47 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:45 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:43 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:40 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:30 sitromit wrote:On January 13 2013 23:22 Meggiroth wrote:On January 13 2013 23:18 Seiniyta wrote:
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So was MVP vs Gowser supposed to be a no-brainer. MVP isn't in his top shape for a while now while Life just beat Leenok so yes, I still believe its a no brainer. I'll eat my sox for breakfast if goswser gets a map from Life. You realize these games are cross server right? It's ZvZ, there are banelings, anyone can drop a map to an all in. I think that life can just play safe to the roach/infestor point of the game, and even if he is behind he will crush goswser anyway, that's how superior players win, they don't take risks against inferior opponents. ZvZ is only a knifefight if you try and play greedy, because that means you NEED banes to survive. you cant have roachs out to stop banelings in time, and even if you do your opponent has a drone lead and takes a free third Queens and 2 spines with banelings is enough, the amount of latency should not be a problem for Life aslong as he plays defensively. Also what I was saying is that he plays safe, even if goswser gets an advantage, I believe Life will just win anyway. if you have 2 spines then your opponent has a drone lead and just takes a free third ZvZ is a match up where one drone more then your opponent is a big deal you cant just play safe and expect that to workplus thats not lifes style Yes, and if Life was playing Leenock or DongRaeGu, then that would be a problem, but he isn't, he is playing goswser, therefor he will win regardless of being behind a little, that's my whole point, he avoids any coinflip by playing safe, it's how almost every korean pro will play against lesser opponents, to risk getting knocked out by some odd cheese. Hoo hoo. Life vs elfi. I do think elfi could take out Life.... just because elfi is elfi.
No, I mean Life vs elfi from TSL4. That was some series.
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On January 14 2013 01:54 Dwayn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 01:50 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:47 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:45 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:43 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:40 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:30 sitromit wrote:On January 13 2013 23:22 Meggiroth wrote:On January 13 2013 23:18 Seiniyta wrote:On January 13 2013 22:47 Meggiroth wrote:
Life>Goswser
MC>MKP
Scarlett>Nestea
Stephano>Drg
Life vs Goswser is a nobrainer and i have a feelin the bosstoss is back in bussiness and won't go down easy even against MKP,
If Scarlett can beat Drg, she can handle Nestea as well, same story for Stephano who rolled over Drg last time they met. So was MVP vs Gowser supposed to be a no-brainer. MVP isn't in his top shape for a while now while Life just beat Leenok so yes, I still believe its a no brainer. I'll eat my sox for breakfast if goswser gets a map from Life. You realize these games are cross server right? It's ZvZ, there are banelings, anyone can drop a map to an all in. I think that life can just play safe to the roach/infestor point of the game, and even if he is behind he will crush goswser anyway, that's how superior players win, they don't take risks against inferior opponents. ZvZ is only a knifefight if you try and play greedy, because that means you NEED banes to survive. you cant have roachs out to stop banelings in time, and even if you do your opponent has a drone lead and takes a free third Queens and 2 spines with banelings is enough, the amount of latency should not be a problem for Life aslong as he plays defensively. Also what I was saying is that he plays safe, even if goswser gets an advantage, I believe Life will just win anyway. if you have 2 spines then your opponent has a drone lead and just takes a free third ZvZ is a match up where one drone more then your opponent is a big deal you cant just play safe and expect that to workplus thats not lifes style Yes, and if Life was playing Leenock or DongRaeGu, then that would be a problem, but he isn't, he is playing goswser, therefor he will win regardless of being behind a little, that's my whole point, he avoids any coinflip by playing safe, it's how almost every korean pro will play against lesser opponents, to risk getting knocked out by some odd cheese. My experience in ZvZ is if you play it save against someone who isn't you don't fall behind 'a little' but really a lot. More than in any other matchup.
More than in PvP? In ZvZ there seem to be more harassment and stuff to get you back into the game, but I don't know, never played Z.
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There you go, Life 10 pools. Now he has to do Ling micro cross server. :p
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On January 14 2013 01:57 catplanetcatplanet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 01:57 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:55 catplanetcatplanet wrote:On January 14 2013 01:50 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:47 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:45 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:43 Forikorder wrote:On January 14 2013 01:40 Hiea wrote:On January 14 2013 01:30 sitromit wrote:On January 13 2013 23:22 Meggiroth wrote:
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MVP isn't in his top shape for a while now while Life just beat Leenok so yes, I still believe its a no brainer.
I'll eat my sox for breakfast if goswser gets a map from Life.
You realize these games are cross server right? It's ZvZ, there are banelings, anyone can drop a map to an all in. I think that life can just play safe to the roach/infestor point of the game, and even if he is behind he will crush goswser anyway, that's how superior players win, they don't take risks against inferior opponents. ZvZ is only a knifefight if you try and play greedy, because that means you NEED banes to survive. you cant have roachs out to stop banelings in time, and even if you do your opponent has a drone lead and takes a free third Queens and 2 spines with banelings is enough, the amount of latency should not be a problem for Life aslong as he plays defensively. Also what I was saying is that he plays safe, even if goswser gets an advantage, I believe Life will just win anyway. if you have 2 spines then your opponent has a drone lead and just takes a free third ZvZ is a match up where one drone more then your opponent is a big deal you cant just play safe and expect that to workplus thats not lifes style Yes, and if Life was playing Leenock or DongRaeGu, then that would be a problem, but he isn't, he is playing goswser, therefor he will win regardless of being behind a little, that's my whole point, he avoids any coinflip by playing safe, it's how almost every korean pro will play against lesser opponents, to risk getting knocked out by some odd cheese. Hoo hoo. Life vs elfi. I do think elfi could take out Life.... just because elfi is elfi. No, I mean Life vs elfi from TSL4. That was some series.
It was truly a beautiful series. One of those that will always stay with you, you know.
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your Country52798 Posts
Wow all those pulled drones ><
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I don't like these casters
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Anyone notice that Wolf almost called Kaelaris, Khaldor?
He was like "Khal . . . .aris."
He caught himself before he actually said it lol 
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Wait, who is driving that crane on the map?
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
a moment of silence for elfi vs life, never forget.
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Life is behind now, now he will win.
Also, I hope goswser actually wins, but I just can't see it happening.
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This game is just the appetizer. Next games will be so good.
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Life is just so good xDDDDD
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just insane how life can turn around bo disadvantages in zvz all the time
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lifes control always leaves me speechless
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On January 14 2013 02:02 Koshi wrote:
This game is just the appetizer. Next games will be so good.
This is the main event IMO. The #1 Foreign zerg (disputable, stephano might be better) versus the #1 starcraft player (Royal roader, Blizz Cup)
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your Country52798 Posts
Oh goswser... nice banelings
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EPT
