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[IPTL] Acer v Fnatic - Contender Group A

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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:42:15
December 13 2012 19:31 GMT
#1
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The time has come for the Contender group matches of the IGN Pro Team League 2013 Season 1!


Upcoming Premier Matches:
Acer v Fnatic - Dec 13th
NsHoSeo v inFDreamteam Gaming - Dec 14th
TSL v ROOT - Dec 20th
FXO EU v coL - Dec 21st



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When: Thursday, Dec 13 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)



Format

Contender Division Group A is made up of four teams: Fnatic, Acer, NsHoSeo, and inFDreamteam Gaming. Group B contains TSL, ROOT, FXO EU, and Complexity. Both groups will play round robin against each other team in their group. When group stages are over, the top two teams from each Group will have a chance in the Up and Down matches to join Premier Division.




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Acer
Bly
DarkHydra
Nerchio
ParanOid
Scarlett
MMA

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Fnatic
Oz
aLive
Harstem
Naama
J
Nightend


This match of the IPTL Premier Division Group A is on Thursday, Dec 13 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)


Poll: Who will win?

Acer (61)
 
85%

Fnatic (11)
 
15%

72 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Acer
(Vote): Fnatic




Results!

+ Show Spoiler [Acer vs Fnatic Results] +
Bly < Abyssal City > J
Scarlett < Daybreak > J
Scarlett < Entombed Valley > Oz
Scarlett < Ohana > Naama
Scarlett < Whirlwind > Harstem

Fnatic forfeits the last game. Congratulations to Scarlett on her all-kill!





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IPLMap Daybreak
IPLMap Whirlwind
IPLMap Cloud Kingdom
IPLMap Metropolis
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IPLMap Entombed Valley
**Abyssal City**

The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.



Casters

Today's games will be commentated by Kevin Knocke and Kibbelz!

NOTE: We have changed the naming schema for this season of IPTL. We will now be naming our seasons by year (though I know you were all excited for IPTL XXVI). This will be IPTL 2013 Season 1.




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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
December 13 2012 19:34 GMT
#2
MMA all-kill INC!
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
December 13 2012 19:38 GMT
#3
no alive in the fnatic lineup?
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
December 13 2012 19:39 GMT
#4
not even aLive, Oz in a never ending slump....

oh well fnatic`s roster seems to be the weakest since their first one.

Acer Zergs will crush, shouldnt even be close.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
December 13 2012 19:43 GMT
#5
This could get really ugly for Fnatic
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 20:19:01
December 13 2012 19:56 GMT
#6
On December 14 2012 04:43 HotGlueGun wrote:
This could get really ugly for Fnatic


maybe they are praying to the rain gods, that somehow somewhere J sitting there home and realizing he can actually play like a GSL champion.

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RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Dujek
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom276 Posts
December 13 2012 19:56 GMT
#7
The time has come for the Premier group matches of the IGN Pro Team League 2013 Season 1!


Upcoming Premier Matches:
Acer v Fnatic - Dec 13th
NsHoSeo v inFDreamteam Gaming - Dec 14th
TSL v ROOT - Dec 20th
FXO EU v coL - Dec 21st


There's a mistake there.

That said I'm really excited for this, been watching Startale vs EG and FXO vs Prime all day.

One small thing, do you mean to have vods available for IPTL? I had to dig through a 22hour video to find Startale EG on twitch. FXO Prime was easier.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 13 2012 20:03 GMT
#8
Maybe this time J can win a match...maybe...possibly....

Nah not today only inori was a worthy victory for J.
Glorious SEA doto
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
December 13 2012 20:04 GMT
#9
@krutopatkin
aLive still in the roster (accidentally deleted him when I was removing Moon)

@Dujek
We've got all our VODs nicely organized on YouTube; however, they are NOT spoiler-free: http://www.youtube.com/user/IGNProLeague/videos?view=0
DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
December 13 2012 21:18 GMT
#10
Ipl >> Ares Out, depature In...!!

This gonna be brutal for Fnatic ...
Fnatic 4 Ever...!!
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7100 Posts
December 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#11
Naama allkill. GO!
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 21:25:13
December 13 2012 21:24 GMT
#12
On December 14 2012 05:03 Fusilero wrote:
Maybe this time J can win a match...maybe...possibly....

Nah not today only inori was a worthy victory for J.

Hey, hey, in EG MCSL he once beat Titan by fungaling his army when he a-moved up a ramp into spines. Lost to LiveZerg in the ace match though. :D
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
December 13 2012 21:25 GMT
#13
Ares is no longer on Fnatic: http://fnatic.com/news/10231/fnatic-and-byul-part-ways.html#comment-111805

Easy for Acer, even though I'm a Fnatic fan..Oz and aLive haven't been performing that well since joining Fnatic, and their foreigners are far from being as good as Acer's.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
December 13 2012 21:35 GMT
#14
On December 14 2012 06:25 mikkmagro wrote:
Ares is no longer on Fnatic: http://fnatic.com/news/10231/fnatic-and-byul-part-ways.html#comment-111805

Easy for Acer, even though I'm a Fnatic fan..Oz and aLive haven't been performing that well since joining Fnatic, and their foreigners are far from being as good as Acer's.


you mean since they lost in GSTL and Hwanni`s departure, aLive was certainly a beast when he joined and won IPL, but how can you stay motivated when nobody actually gives a fuck and the foreigners are just mediocre prac. partner...

Oz really disappointed since he left FXO though, a few glimpse of his possible skill e.g vs stephano arent enough these days...
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 13 2012 21:48 GMT
#15
It's a shame how bad Fnatic has become. Team house in Korea and it's gone to waste.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
December 13 2012 22:39 GMT
#16
Hoping for a good showing by the new recruit and a finishing blow by Nerchio
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
December 13 2012 23:50 GMT
#17
On December 14 2012 06:48 decado90 wrote:
It's a shame how bad Fnatic has become. Team house in Korea and it's gone to waste.


Oz is still good, even if he is inconsistent, and i have confidence aLive will come back. You don't just lose that amount of skill. Have faith =)
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
December 14 2012 00:02 GMT
#18
After the underwhelming Flas vs Rain series, Im hoping for some good games here.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 14 2012 00:13 GMT
#19
Is this it, is J going to win?
Moderator
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 14 2012 00:15 GMT
#20
J is using Jinro's account? That's so random.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 14 2012 00:16 GMT
#21
On December 14 2012 09:15 Dodgin wrote:
J is using Jinro's account? That's so random.


oGs-TL love.
Moderator
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 00:19:48
December 14 2012 00:18 GMT
#22
Having 10 mutas and 60 supply worth of enemy roaches in your main: Slightly less than ideal, according to Scarlett.
Mutation complete.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
December 14 2012 00:19 GMT
#23
Scarlett should win this.
NanowaX
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany190 Posts
December 14 2012 00:20 GMT
#24
so it is possible that i see mma playing in the lets say next hour? :o <3
SlayerS MMA GOAT | Maru, MKP, MVP, Byun
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
December 14 2012 00:22 GMT
#25
J's first win in ages I think.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
December 14 2012 00:24 GMT
#26
On December 14 2012 09:20 NanowaX wrote:
so it is possible that i see mma playing in the lets say next hour? :o <3


He said that he would play as third or fourth player. If necessary, right now his game seems to be laggy.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
December 14 2012 00:26 GMT
#27
J TOO GOOD

Next on the hit list is Scarlett!
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 00:27:39
December 14 2012 00:27 GMT
#28
I remember when HerO and J were both high potential oGs b-teamers, J must be so jealous of HerO.

Also why is this free 720p but not 720p+? I never understood the difference.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
December 14 2012 00:29 GMT
#29
Judging by the quality its not actualy 720p its 480, could explain why.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
December 14 2012 00:32 GMT
#30
nydus lol.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 14 2012 00:36 GMT
#31
On December 14 2012 09:27 jalstar wrote:
I remember when HerO and J were both high potential oGs b-teamers, J must be so jealous of HerO.

What do you think the J stands for?^^ He sure ain't luvsic anymore.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 14 2012 00:36 GMT
#32
Well, J got one at least.
Moderator
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
December 14 2012 00:38 GMT
#33
Scarlett all kill incoming
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 14 2012 00:39 GMT
#34
Day 3 of new IPL: Desk is still too shiny. Will report more details after further observation.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
December 14 2012 00:50 GMT
#35
Strait up murdered
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 14 2012 00:50 GMT
#36
3 base attack with... gateway units and a couple immortals? Wtf was that?
Official Nathanias Fanclub Manager! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401880
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
December 14 2012 00:51 GMT
#37
How unfair. I wanted to see MMA play. But with scarlett winning here out, no fair.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 00:52:27
December 14 2012 00:51 GMT
#38
I'm glad Oz died there, fraer vs Scarlett earlier today was one Scarlett ZvP on Entombed too many already.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 14 2012 00:54 GMT
#39
No soul train, but I guess a Naama train will suffice.
Moderator
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 14 2012 01:04 GMT
#40
foreign terrans are pretty bad
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
December 14 2012 01:05 GMT
#41
Naama has always been terrible, hence the way he plays.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:06:53
December 14 2012 01:05 GMT
#42
Love seeing Scarlett AK, though Alive might have a decent chance to reverse the all kill, Alive vs MMA could be a fun match.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 14 2012 01:06 GMT
#43
Why are foreign terrans (myself included) so bad....
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 14 2012 01:06 GMT
#44
On December 14 2012 10:05 TheDougler wrote:
Hmmm...

"Four infestors on the map"
"Or are they queens trapped in infestors bodies?"

Bit of an edgy comment there Kibbles... I think. Probably reading to far into it.

Love seeing Scarlett AK, though Alive might have a decent chance to reverse the all kill, Alive vs MMA could be a fun match.


but that's assuming alive beats scarlett, but I don't think alive can even beat my cat in SC2 nowadays
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
December 14 2012 01:07 GMT
#45
On December 14 2012 10:06 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:05 TheDougler wrote:


Love seeing Scarlett AK, though Alive might have a decent chance to reverse the all kill, Alive vs MMA could be a fun match.


but that's assuming alive beats scarlett, but I don't think alive can even beat my cat in SC2 nowadays


Haha, plus when Scarlett gets on a roll she takes dat epic momentum with her
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
December 14 2012 01:08 GMT
#46
Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 14 2012 01:09 GMT
#47
On December 14 2012 10:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM.


To put it simply: they lack the micro and macro Korean Terrans have

In depth: they lack the micro, macro, decision making and strategies Korean Terrans have.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 14 2012 01:11 GMT
#48
On December 14 2012 10:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM.


Sigh. Sometimes I wish I was born a Korean instead of Japanese. But then, I realize how awesome it is to be Japanese so that kind of goes away.

I mean seriously. I have a friend who's Korean and never played starcraft, but just by looking me playing would just say really insightful things.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 14 2012 01:32 GMT
#49
On December 14 2012 10:11 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM.


Sigh. Sometimes I wish I was born a Korean instead of Japanese. But then, I realize how awesome it is to be Japanese so that kind of goes away.

I mean seriously. I have a friend who's Korean and never played starcraft, but just by looking me playing would just say really insightful things.



Average "size" of a South Korean is 3.8". Don't know if it's really worth it lol.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
December 14 2012 01:35 GMT
#50
Lol, talking about Harstem's "side of the map" it's about a quarter the size of Scarlett's side of the map.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
December 14 2012 01:36 GMT
#51
dear god
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1144 Posts
December 14 2012 01:36 GMT
#52
Good god, this game.
Mutation complete.
Jebediah
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany106 Posts
December 14 2012 01:37 GMT
#53
This is almost fun to watch.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 14 2012 01:37 GMT
#54
goddamnit just go kill each other already
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 14 2012 01:39 GMT
#55
You know what I really like about Heart of the Swarm? Motherships will be terrible so there will be no reason to make them and have the cloak-lag bring the game to 5 fps.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 14 2012 01:39 GMT
#56
Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
December 14 2012 01:40 GMT
#57
Now, how does one "win" in that position?
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
December 14 2012 01:40 GMT
#58
That was a sad ending.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
December 14 2012 01:40 GMT
#59
Heart of the Swam, please come quickly.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#60
Dance around for 15 minutes, finally the big battle happens, Scarlett loses 10 supply.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:41:39
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#61
Scarlett's thought process throughout this game:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Gg, though.
Mutation complete.
yankjenets
Profile Joined June 2010
United States232 Posts
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#62
"Here, let me make some interceptors for you."
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#63
uhm
carriers died
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#64
On December 14 2012 10:41 Chewbacca. wrote:
Dance around for 15 minutes, finally the big battle happens, Scarlett loses 10 supply.

Exactly
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:42:04
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#65
On December 14 2012 10:39 decado90 wrote:
Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games.


What has she won that makes her the best foreigner? just askin'
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#66
On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position?


By not letting it get to that position.
Official Nathanias Fanclub Manager! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401880
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#67
Interesting but boring as fuck
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
December 14 2012 01:42 GMT
#68
I said on facebook they didn't even have 5 players left.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 14 2012 01:42 GMT
#69
Was this pre-patch? or post.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
December 14 2012 01:42 GMT
#70
Yup, I'm stoked Scarlett is (hopefully) about to all kill, but am certainly looking forward to HoTS more and more.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 14 2012 01:43 GMT
#71
On December 14 2012 10:41 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position?


By not letting it get to that position.


yeah once zerg gets that compostion, it doesn't matter what you have.
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
December 14 2012 01:43 GMT
#72
oh is the broadcast over? i had it on mute
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:44:17
December 14 2012 01:43 GMT
#73
My favourite part of that last game was when a fight happened. That was pretty neat.

edit: ^ ye no 5th player for Fnatic apparently
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
December 14 2012 01:44 GMT
#74
On December 14 2012 10:42 TheDougler wrote:
Yup, I'm stoked Scarlett is (hopefully) about to all kill, but am certainly looking forward to HoTS more and more.


At least zvt is entertaining again. PvZ however looks unfixable until HoTS. The ret vs white ra show match was actually really exciting to watch.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 14 2012 01:44 GMT
#75
Welp, that was sad. Fnatic
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:45:36
December 14 2012 01:44 GMT
#76
On December 14 2012 10:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:39 decado90 wrote:
Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games.


What has she won that makes her the best foreigner? just askin'


WCS Canada, WCS NA, beats Euro players all the time, beat Stephano in a tournament yesterday as well as MKP and SKT1Brown, beaten plenty of other koreans too. She's at least top two foreigners out there.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
TKK
Profile Joined March 2011
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:44:56
December 14 2012 01:44 GMT
#77
teams should get punished for going into a tournament match without the full lineup of players.

that makes ipl look dump. makes the whole entertainment feel dump.
Prof
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada60 Posts
December 14 2012 01:45 GMT
#78
Here is the problem as I see it. Zerg in WOL has no tier 2 units that can go head to head with Protoss while Protoss has no tier 3 units that can go head to head with Zerg. So if the Protoss player is going to play passive it would be stupid for the Zerg to attack as they get stronger the later the game goes. And as a result you get games like we just saw.
Insurrectionist
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway141 Posts
December 14 2012 01:45 GMT
#79
Between the player-list, the forfeit of game 5 and the result, Fnatic seem to be in really bad shape at the moment. Hopefully they can turn things around.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:47:27
December 14 2012 01:46 GMT
#80
On December 14 2012 10:45 Prof wrote:
Here is the problem as I see it. Zerg in WOL has no tier 2 units that can go head to head with Protoss while Protoss has no tier 3 units that can go head to head with Zerg. So if the Protoss player is going to play passive it would be stupid for the Zerg to attack as they get stronger the later the game goes. And as a result you get games like we just saw.



Bingo. Though on the other hand, Mutas have had their day in the sun as have Roaches, but I think you're right in that Protoss definitely struggle in WoL against Tier 3 zerg (shocking I know!)
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 14 2012 01:46 GMT
#81
Nightend or aLive could not play?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 14 2012 01:48 GMT
#82
it's kinda ironic zerg is the one dominates the sky against protoss and terrans.

corruptors are just too good anti air and you can instantly remax them
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
December 14 2012 01:48 GMT
#83
On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position?

Wait, I've seen star trek, he needs to hack into blizzard and change the game before the test!
That was hideous though... free units outclassing super expensive units. It's the test of the "Carrier HT Archon can beat infestor broodlord" theory we've been hearing.
Scarlett played it optimally, it's the game we're been given.
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BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
December 14 2012 01:49 GMT
#84
On December 14 2012 10:44 TKK wrote:
teams should get punished for going into a tournament match without the full lineup of players.

that makes ipl look dump. makes the whole entertainment feel dump.


What other punishment do they need other than going 4 and out?
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
December 14 2012 01:51 GMT
#85
On December 14 2012 10:49 BathTubNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:44 TKK wrote:
teams should get punished for going into a tournament match without the full lineup of players.

that makes ipl look dump. makes the whole entertainment feel dump.


What other punishment do they need other than going 4 and out?



What just happened there anyway? I had it muted during the break time and I look over and the match is over. I thought at least Nightend would be available to play... Oh well, grats to Scarlett on the All Kill.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Prof
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada60 Posts
December 14 2012 01:51 GMT
#86
Does that officially count as an all-kill for Scarlett? Just wondering. I would count it but I'm biased.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:57:12
December 14 2012 01:52 GMT
#87
On December 14 2012 10:44 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On December 14 2012 10:39 decado90 wrote:
Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games.


What has she won that makes her the best foreigner? just askin'


WCS Canada, WCS NA, beats Euro players all the time, beat Stephano in a tournament yesterday as well as MKP and SKT1Brown, beaten plenty of other koreans too. She's at least top two foreigners out there.


In this game, everyone can beat everyone in a series(beating Stephano now in ZvZ doesn't mean shit, beatng MKP now in ZvT doesn't either)...
Yeah, and i was asking whether she won a relevant tourney with a very good line-up.
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 14 2012 01:53 GMT
#88
On December 14 2012 10:51 Prof wrote:
Does that officially count as an all-kill for Scarlett? Just wondering. I would count it but I'm biased.


technically it is, so i dont see why it shouldn't be
Prof
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 01:55:06
December 14 2012 01:54 GMT
#89
Then that is back to back all-kills for Scarlett in IPTL. I wonder if that has happened before?
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
December 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#90
It is an allkill. She beat every player fnatic fielded..
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 02:00:39
December 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#91
On December 14 2012 10:54 Prof wrote:
Then that is back to back all-kills for Scarlett in IPTL. I wonder if that has happened before?


Yongwha did in GSTL. He AKed Fnatic in this last GSTL season in round one, and then Slayers in round two.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
December 14 2012 02:08 GMT
#92
On December 14 2012 10:48 mostevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position?

Wait, I've seen star trek, he needs to hack into blizzard and change the game before the test!
That was hideous though... free units outclassing super expensive units. It's the test of the "Carrier HT Archon can beat infestor broodlord" theory we've been hearing.
Scarlett played it optimally, it's the game we're been given.

Quick, hack into blizzard while defending the attacking point with some immortals and sentries! Then erase infestors from the game so Zerg's who can't roach-ling will try to fall back to their ultimate fail safe when they lose thier army to bad micro, and see it removed! That'll teach them!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 14 2012 02:38 GMT
#93
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying
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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 02:40:24
December 14 2012 02:39 GMT
#94
xD
next pls

Haha, this last fungal by Scarlett was beautiful, nice move with the infestors using the ground advantage.
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
December 14 2012 02:46 GMT
#95
On December 14 2012 11:38 lichter wrote:
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying

Agreed. should be some slight limitations on that. takes away from watching
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 14 2012 02:52 GMT
#96
On December 14 2012 11:46 Prevolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 11:38 lichter wrote:
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying

Agreed. should be some slight limitations on that. takes away from watching

They should just strip it from replays, they did it before and suddenly stopped about halfway through last season, I think.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 14 2012 03:05 GMT
#97
On December 14 2012 11:52 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 11:46 Prevolved wrote:
On December 14 2012 11:38 lichter wrote:
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying

Agreed. should be some slight limitations on that. takes away from watching

They should just strip it from replays, they did it before and suddenly stopped about halfway through last season, I think.


Some of the things said are in poor taste, and we all know how many times pros have gotten in trouble for things they say in chat. Just not a good thing imo.

And I don't agree with having teams obs games. I'm not saying it happens, but it gives the opportunity to cheat, and allows people to be suspicious.
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Scisyhp
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States200 Posts
December 14 2012 03:39 GMT
#98
Was hoping to see some of acer's newer pickups, but I'll never mind an allkill from scarlett ^^.

Congrats to scarlett for her nice performance, too bad we couldn't see the last game.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 14 2012 06:32 GMT
#99
Gratz Scarlett' !!!

Fnatics line up is pretty sad these days it seems, hopefully they pick up some players for HOTS
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 14 2012 08:17 GMT
#100
So glad Fnatic got schooled. Good job Scarleltt!

Hopefully Fnatic SC2 never wins anything ever again.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 14 2012 08:26 GMT
#101
hey, J won a game. wow.
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Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 10:29:40
December 14 2012 10:26 GMT
#102
On December 14 2012 17:17 redviper wrote:
So glad Fnatic got schooled. Good job Scarleltt!

Hopefully Fnatic SC2 never wins anything ever again.


there goes the hatred.

if I was fnatic and had plenty of money, i would just get rid of everybody except aLive and Oz, and buy a couple of Code S / A players from teams which contracts would end till January. making higher offers than teams like TSL, MVP or even the other big purely SC2 teams shouldnt be that hard, however getting players from KeSPa teams should be way harder.

But as it is I dont believe in a successful future for fnatic.sc2, its a shame cause those poor results drag their name in the dirt, as they are winning a lot in their other games and Iam starting to follow more LoL now T_T

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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
December 14 2012 14:02 GMT
#103
Holy shit, J won. I have to watch these vods. And I thought Bly was a semi-decent player. O-o Apparantly not.
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
December 14 2012 15:15 GMT
#104
On December 14 2012 19:26 Inzan1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 17:17 redviper wrote:
So glad Fnatic got schooled. Good job Scarleltt!

Hopefully Fnatic SC2 never wins anything ever again.


there goes the hatred.

if I was fnatic and had plenty of money, i would just get rid of everybody except aLive and Oz, and buy a couple of Code S / A players from teams which contracts would end till January. making higher offers than teams like TSL, MVP or even the other big purely SC2 teams shouldnt be that hard, however getting players from KeSPa teams should be way harder.

But as it is I dont believe in a successful future for fnatic.sc2, its a shame cause those poor results drag their name in the dirt, as they are winning a lot in their other games and Iam starting to follow more LoL now T_T


To be fair, Fnatic is one of the only foreign team that actually supports up and coming foreigners instead of just giving contracts to already well established Koreans (*cough* TL *cough* - even EG got a relatively unknown foreigner (Suppy) lately). It's good that they are willing to gamble on players like Harstem, and I feel the foreign scene in general would be doing better if more big teams did that.

That being said, Fnatic urgently needs new players.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
December 14 2012 15:56 GMT
#105
I think by now it is clear that Scarlett is a patch Canadian
We talkin about PRACTICE
BleuDeChanel
Profile Joined March 2011
Peru30 Posts
December 14 2012 15:59 GMT
#106
Disgusting
rip in piece
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 14 2012 16:10 GMT
#107
Scarlett plays the same style every game, sure she's good, but she is boring as fuck.
Wupacow
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark51 Posts
December 14 2012 16:45 GMT
#108
Who is J? :o
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
December 14 2012 16:47 GMT
#109
On December 15 2012 01:45 Wupacow wrote:
Who is J? :o

It's been Luvsic's ID since he joined Fnatic. He was on oGs.
tabeatz
Profile Joined October 2012
United States83 Posts
December 14 2012 17:49 GMT
#110
Why on earth would they forfeit the last game?
For the love of the game
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