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The time has come for the Contender group matches of the IGN Pro Team League 2013 Season 1!
Upcoming Premier Matches:
Acer v Fnatic - Dec 13th
NsHoSeo v inFDreamteam Gaming - Dec 14th
TSL v ROOT - Dec 20th
FXO EU v coL - Dec 21st
When: Thursday, Dec 13 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)
Format
Contender Division Group A is made up of four teams: Fnatic, Acer, NsHoSeo, and inFDreamteam Gaming. Group B contains TSL, ROOT, FXO EU, and Complexity. Both groups will play round robin against each other team in their group. When group stages are over, the top two teams from each Group will have a chance in the Up and Down matches to join Premier Division.
![[image loading]](http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5060/aceresportsicon.png) AcerBly DarkHydra Nerchio ParanOid Scarlett MMA ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/d/db/Fnaticlogo.png/300px-Fnaticlogo.png) FnaticOz aLive Harstem Naama J Nightend
This match of the IPTL Premier Division Group A is on Thursday, Dec 13 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)
Poll: Who will win?Acer (61) 85% Fnatic (11) 15% 72 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Acer
(Vote): Fnatic
Results!+ Show Spoiler [Acer vs Fnatic Results] + Bly < Abyssal City > J
Scarlett < Daybreak > J
Scarlett < Entombed Valley > Oz
Scarlett < Ohana > Naama
Scarlett < Whirlwind > Harstem
Fnatic forfeits the last game. Congratulations to Scarlett on her all-kill!
Map List
IPLMap Atlantis Spaceship
IPLMap Antiga Shipyard
IPLMap Daybreak
IPLMap Whirlwind
IPLMap Cloud Kingdom
IPLMap Metropolis
IPLMap Ohana
IPLMap Entombed Valley
**Abyssal City**
The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.
Casters
Today's games will be commentated by Kevin Knocke and Kibbelz!
NOTE: We have changed the naming schema for this season of IPTL. We will now be naming our seasons by year (though I know you were all excited for IPTL XXVI). This will be IPTL 2013 Season 1.
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Germany2612 Posts
no alive in the fnatic lineup?
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not even aLive, Oz in a never ending slump....
oh well fnatic`s roster seems to be the weakest since their first one.
Acer Zergs will crush, shouldnt even be close.
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This could get really ugly for Fnatic
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On December 14 2012 04:43 HotGlueGun wrote:
This could get really ugly for Fnatic
maybe they are praying to the rain gods, that somehow somewhere J sitting there home and realizing he can actually play like a GSL champion.
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The time has come for the Premier group matches of the IGN Pro Team League 2013 Season 1!
Upcoming Premier Matches:
Acer v Fnatic - Dec 13th
NsHoSeo v inFDreamteam Gaming - Dec 14th
TSL v ROOT - Dec 20th
FXO EU v coL - Dec 21st
There's a mistake there.
That said I'm really excited for this, been watching Startale vs EG and FXO vs Prime all day.
One small thing, do you mean to have vods available for IPTL? I had to dig through a 22hour video to find Startale EG on twitch. FXO Prime was easier.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Maybe this time J can win a match...maybe...possibly....
Nah not today only inori was a worthy victory for J.
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1184 Posts
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Ipl >> Ares Out, depature In...!!
This gonna be brutal for Fnatic  ...
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On December 14 2012 05:03 Fusilero wrote:
Maybe this time J can win a match...maybe...possibly....
Nah not today only inori was a worthy victory for J.
Hey, hey, in EG MCSL he once beat Titan by fungaling his army when he a-moved up a ramp into spines. Lost to LiveZerg in the ace match though. :D
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you mean since they lost in GSTL and Hwanni`s departure, aLive was certainly a beast when he joined and won IPL, but how can you stay motivated when nobody actually gives a fuck and the foreigners are just mediocre prac. partner...
Oz really disappointed since he left FXO though, a few glimpse of his possible skill e.g vs stephano arent enough these days...
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It's a shame how bad Fnatic has become. Team house in Korea and it's gone to waste.
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Hoping for a good showing by the new recruit and a finishing blow by Nerchio 
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On December 14 2012 06:48 decado90 wrote:It's a shame how bad Fnatic has become. Team house in Korea and it's gone to waste.
Oz is still good, even if he is inconsistent, and i have confidence aLive will come back. You don't just lose that amount of skill. Have faith =)
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After the underwhelming Flas vs Rain series, Im hoping for some good games here.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Is this it, is J going to win?
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J is using Jinro's account? That's so random.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 14 2012 09:15 Dodgin wrote:
J is using Jinro's account? That's so random.
oGs-TL love.
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Having 10 mutas and 60 supply worth of enemy roaches in your main: Slightly less than ideal, according to Scarlett.
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Scarlett should win this.
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so it is possible that i see mma playing in the lets say next hour? :o <3
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J's first win in ages I think.
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On December 14 2012 09:20 NanowaX wrote:
so it is possible that i see mma playing in the lets say next hour? :o <3
He said that he would play as third or fourth player. If necessary, right now his game seems to be laggy.
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J TOO GOOD
Next on the hit list is Scarlett!
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I remember when HerO and J were both high potential oGs b-teamers, J must be so jealous of HerO.
Also why is this free 720p but not 720p+? I never understood the difference.
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Judging by the quality its not actualy 720p its 480, could explain why.
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On December 14 2012 09:27 jalstar wrote:I remember when HerO and J were both high potential oGs b-teamers, J must be so jealous of HerO.
What do you think the J stands for?^^ He sure ain't luvsic anymore.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Well, J got one at least.
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Scarlett all kill incoming
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Day 3 of new IPL: Desk is still too shiny. Will report more details after further observation.
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3 base attack with... gateway units and a couple immortals? Wtf was that?
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How unfair. I wanted to see MMA play. But with scarlett winning here out, no fair.
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I'm glad Oz died there, fraer vs Scarlett earlier today was one Scarlett ZvP on Entombed too many already.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
No soul train, but I guess a Naama train will suffice.
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foreign terrans are pretty bad
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Naama has always been terrible, hence the way he plays.
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Love seeing Scarlett AK, though Alive might have a decent chance to reverse the all kill, Alive vs MMA could be a fun match.
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Why are foreign terrans (myself included) so bad....
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On December 14 2012 10:05 TheDougler wrote:
Hmmm...
"Four infestors on the map"
"Or are they queens trapped in infestors bodies?"
Bit of an edgy comment there Kibbles... I think. Probably reading to far into it.
Love seeing Scarlett AK, though Alive might have a decent chance to reverse the all kill, Alive vs MMA could be a fun match.
but that's assuming alive beats scarlett, but I don't think alive can even beat my cat in SC2 nowadays
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On December 14 2012 10:06 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 10:05 TheDougler wrote:
Love seeing Scarlett AK, though Alive might have a decent chance to reverse the all kill, Alive vs MMA could be a fun match. but that's assuming alive beats scarlett, but I don't think alive can even beat my cat in SC2 nowadays
Haha, plus when Scarlett gets on a roll she takes dat epic momentum with her
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Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM.
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On December 14 2012 10:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM.
To put it simply: they lack the micro and macro Korean Terrans have
In depth: they lack the micro, macro, decision making and strategies Korean Terrans have.
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On December 14 2012 10:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM.
Sigh. Sometimes I wish I was born a Korean instead of Japanese. But then, I realize how awesome it is to be Japanese so that kind of goes away.
I mean seriously. I have a friend who's Korean and never played starcraft, but just by looking me playing would just say really insightful things.
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On December 14 2012 10:11 glzElectromaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 10:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Foreign Terran just lack that special something that allows them to be up there with the best. Koreans just seem to have Terran figured out a lot better than foreigners, and I remember LucifroN saying something along the lines of "I just realized how wrong I had been playing Terran" after seeing Mvp play in IEM. Sigh. Sometimes I wish I was born a Korean instead of Japanese. But then, I realize how awesome it is to be Japanese so that kind of goes away. I mean seriously. I have a friend who's Korean and never played starcraft, but just by looking me playing would just say really insightful things.
Average "size" of a South Korean is 3.8". Don't know if it's really worth it lol.
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Lol, talking about Harstem's "side of the map" it's about a quarter the size of Scarlett's side of the map.
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This is almost fun to watch.
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goddamnit just go kill each other already
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You know what I really like about Heart of the Swarm? Motherships will be terrible so there will be no reason to make them and have the cloak-lag bring the game to 5 fps.
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Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games.
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Now, how does one "win" in that position?
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Heart of the Swam, please come quickly.
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Dance around for 15 minutes, finally the big battle happens, Scarlett loses 10 supply.
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"Here, let me make some interceptors for you."
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On December 14 2012 10:41 Chewbacca. wrote:
Dance around for 15 minutes, finally the big battle happens, Scarlett loses 10 supply.
Exactly
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On December 14 2012 10:39 decado90 wrote:
Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games.
What has she won that makes her the best foreigner? just askin'
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On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position?
By not letting it get to that position.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Interesting but boring as fuck
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I said on facebook they didn't even have 5 players left.
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Was this pre-patch? or post.
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Yup, I'm stoked Scarlett is (hopefully) about to all kill, but am certainly looking forward to HoTS more and more.
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On December 14 2012 10:41 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position? By not letting it get to that position.
yeah once zerg gets that compostion, it doesn't matter what you have.
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oh is the broadcast over? i had it on mute
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My favourite part of that last game was when a fight happened. That was pretty neat.
edit: ^ ye no 5th player for Fnatic apparently
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On December 14 2012 10:42 TheDougler wrote:
Yup, I'm stoked Scarlett is (hopefully) about to all kill, but am certainly looking forward to HoTS more and more.
At least zvt is entertaining again. PvZ however looks unfixable until HoTS. The ret vs white ra show match was actually really exciting to watch.
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Norway25712 Posts
Welp, that was sad. Fnatic
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On December 14 2012 10:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 10:39 decado90 wrote:
Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games. What has she won that makes her the best foreigner? just askin'
WCS Canada, WCS NA, beats Euro players all the time, beat Stephano in a tournament yesterday as well as MKP and SKT1Brown, beaten plenty of other koreans too. She's at least top two foreigners out there.
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teams should get punished for going into a tournament match without the full lineup of players.
that makes ipl look dump. makes the whole entertainment feel dump.
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Here is the problem as I see it. Zerg in WOL has no tier 2 units that can go head to head with Protoss while Protoss has no tier 3 units that can go head to head with Zerg. So if the Protoss player is going to play passive it would be stupid for the Zerg to attack as they get stronger the later the game goes. And as a result you get games like we just saw.
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Between the player-list, the forfeit of game 5 and the result, Fnatic seem to be in really bad shape at the moment. Hopefully they can turn things around.
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On December 14 2012 10:45 Prof wrote:
Here is the problem as I see it. Zerg in WOL has no tier 2 units that can go head to head with Protoss while Protoss has no tier 3 units that can go head to head with Zerg. So if the Protoss player is going to play passive it would be stupid for the Zerg to attack as they get stronger the later the game goes. And as a result you get games like we just saw.
Bingo. Though on the other hand, Mutas have had their day in the sun as have Roaches, but I think you're right in that Protoss definitely struggle in WoL against Tier 3 zerg (shocking I know!)
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Nightend or aLive could not play?
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it's kinda ironic zerg is the one dominates the sky against protoss and terrans.
corruptors are just too good anti air and you can instantly remax them
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On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position?
Wait, I've seen star trek, he needs to hack into blizzard and change the game before the test!
That was hideous though... free units outclassing super expensive units. It's the test of the "Carrier HT Archon can beat infestor broodlord" theory we've been hearing.
Scarlett played it optimally, it's the game we're been given.
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On December 14 2012 10:44 TKK wrote:
teams should get punished for going into a tournament match without the full lineup of players.
that makes ipl look dump. makes the whole entertainment feel dump.
What other punishment do they need other than going 4 and out?
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On December 14 2012 10:49 BathTubNZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 10:44 TKK wrote:
teams should get punished for going into a tournament match without the full lineup of players.
that makes ipl look dump. makes the whole entertainment feel dump. What other punishment do they need other than going 4 and out?
What just happened there anyway? I had it muted during the break time and I look over and the match is over. I thought at least Nightend would be available to play... Oh well, grats to Scarlett on the All Kill.
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Does that officially count as an all-kill for Scarlett? Just wondering. I would count it but I'm biased.
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On December 14 2012 10:44 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 10:41 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On December 14 2012 10:39 decado90 wrote:
Absolutely beautiful and elegant play by Scarlett. After this game she's proven to me she's the real deal. Best foreigner for sure, can't wait to see more of her games. What has she won that makes her the best foreigner? just askin' WCS Canada, WCS NA, beats Euro players all the time, beat Stephano in a tournament yesterday as well as MKP and SKT1Brown, beaten plenty of other koreans too. She's at least top two foreigners out there.
In this game, everyone can beat everyone in a series(beating Stephano now in ZvZ doesn't mean shit, beatng MKP now in ZvT doesn't either)...
Yeah, and i was asking whether she won a relevant tourney with a very good line-up.
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On December 14 2012 10:51 Prof wrote:
Does that officially count as an all-kill for Scarlett? Just wondering. I would count it but I'm biased.
technically it is, so i dont see why it shouldn't be
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Then that is back to back all-kills for Scarlett in IPTL. I wonder if that has happened before?
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It is an allkill. She beat every player fnatic fielded..
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On December 14 2012 10:54 Prof wrote:
Then that is back to back all-kills for Scarlett in IPTL. I wonder if that has happened before?
Yongwha did in GSTL. He AKed Fnatic in this last GSTL season in round one, and then Slayers in round two.
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On December 14 2012 10:48 mostevil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 10:40 isaachukfan wrote:
Now, how does one "win" in that position? Wait, I've seen star trek, he needs to hack into blizzard and change the game before the test! That was hideous though... free units outclassing super expensive units. It's the test of the "Carrier HT Archon can beat infestor broodlord" theory we've been hearing. Scarlett played it optimally, it's the game we're been given.
Quick, hack into blizzard while defending the attacking point with some immortals and sentries! Then erase infestors from the game so Zerg's who can't roach-ling will try to fall back to their ultimate fail safe when they lose thier army to bad micro, and see it removed! That'll teach them!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying
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xD
next pls
Haha, this last fungal by Scarlett was beautiful, nice move with the infestors using the ground advantage.
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On December 14 2012 11:38 lichter wrote:
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying
Agreed. should be some slight limitations on that. takes away from watching
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On December 14 2012 11:46 Prevolved wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 11:38 lichter wrote:
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying Agreed. should be some slight limitations on that. takes away from watching
They should just strip it from replays, they did it before and suddenly stopped about halfway through last season, I think.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 14 2012 11:52 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 11:46 Prevolved wrote:On December 14 2012 11:38 lichter wrote:
The in game chat by team obs in these games is fucking annoying Agreed. should be some slight limitations on that. takes away from watching They should just strip it from replays, they did it before and suddenly stopped about halfway through last season, I think.
Some of the things said are in poor taste, and we all know how many times pros have gotten in trouble for things they say in chat. Just not a good thing imo.
And I don't agree with having teams obs games. I'm not saying it happens, but it gives the opportunity to cheat, and allows people to be suspicious.
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Was hoping to see some of acer's newer pickups, but I'll never mind an allkill from scarlett ^^.
Congrats to scarlett for her nice performance, too bad we couldn't see the last game.
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Gratz Scarlett' !!!
Fnatics line up is pretty sad these days it seems, hopefully they pick up some players for HOTS
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So glad Fnatic got schooled. Good job Scarleltt!
Hopefully Fnatic SC2 never wins anything ever again.
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On December 14 2012 17:17 redviper wrote:
So glad Fnatic got schooled. Good job Scarleltt!
Hopefully Fnatic SC2 never wins anything ever again.
there goes the hatred.
if I was fnatic and had plenty of money, i would just get rid of everybody except aLive and Oz, and buy a couple of Code S / A players from teams which contracts would end till January. making higher offers than teams like TSL, MVP or even the other big purely SC2 teams shouldnt be that hard, however getting players from KeSPa teams should be way harder.
But as it is I dont believe in a successful future for fnatic.sc2, its a shame cause those poor results drag their name in the dirt, as they are winning a lot in their other games and Iam starting to follow more LoL now T_T
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Holy shit, J won. I have to watch these vods. And I thought Bly was a semi-decent player. O-o Apparantly not.
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On December 14 2012 19:26 Inzan1ty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 17:17 redviper wrote:
So glad Fnatic got schooled. Good job Scarleltt!
Hopefully Fnatic SC2 never wins anything ever again. there goes the hatred. if I was fnatic and had plenty of money, i would just get rid of everybody except aLive and Oz, and buy a couple of Code S / A players from teams which contracts would end till January. making higher offers than teams like TSL, MVP or even the other big purely SC2 teams shouldnt be that hard, however getting players from KeSPa teams should be way harder. But as it is I dont believe in a successful future for fnatic.sc2, its a shame cause those poor results drag their name in the dirt, as they are winning a lot in their other games and Iam starting to follow more LoL now T_T
To be fair, Fnatic is one of the only foreign team that actually supports up and coming foreigners instead of just giving contracts to already well established Koreans (*cough* TL *cough* - even EG got a relatively unknown foreigner (Suppy) lately). It's good that they are willing to gamble on players like Harstem, and I feel the foreign scene in general would be doing better if more big teams did that.
That being said, Fnatic urgently needs new players.
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I think by now it is clear that Scarlett is a patch Canadian 
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Scarlett plays the same style every game, sure she's good, but she is boring as fuck.
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On December 15 2012 01:45 Wupacow wrote:
Who is J? :o
It's been Luvsic's ID since he joined Fnatic. He was on oGs.
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Why on earth would they forfeit the last game?
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