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On December 01 2012 14:41 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:38 doffe wrote:On December 01 2012 14:37 Whatson wrote:On December 01 2012 14:36 sparklyresidue wrote:On December 01 2012 14:34 dynwar7 wrote:IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA This coming from a top Terran. And watch Zergs defend themselves I really think Infestors need to be buffed...hmmm..... On December 01 2012 14:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:On December 01 2012 14:34 kafkaesque wrote: Why do Tastosis just ignore that balance-complaint?
Seems insane not to at least jest about it. Because it's garbage that doesn't deserve attention. Says the zerg 2-3 score = imba? You know, almost every MLG interview, even with zergs, have stated that Infestors in general are a big problem. See some of DRG's interviews from WCS also. Most probably agree.. but thats not the reason for EVERY single zerg win...and EVERY single zergwin is followed by a buttload of TL balance whine.. its just pathetic. There were plenty of Zerg tears a back in the GomTvT days.. . People are always going to balance whine.
And I hate that whine just as much.... Ive never ever seen a single balancewhine in an LR thread as constructive.
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On December 01 2012 14:42 mango_destroyer wrote: The crowd want to see Hyun win....Sniper has a new target :D Oh god no! I just praised them for cheering for HyuN O.o
Can the Mastodon stomp the sniper of all things fun?
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On December 01 2012 14:40 veKtory wrote: That was a classless thing to do by Ryung. You can complain about balance somewhere else, what he basically said was Sniper only won because his race is IMBA, you don't take away from someone's victory. Things like these are what's stopping E-Sports from being taken seriously.
Yes, I am sure Ryung is the first player to do this... Ryung killing e-sports!!!
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On December 01 2012 14:41 seansye wrote: LOL every1 knows Sniper isnt that good.
What? Posts like this just seem to confirm that he is still very underrated. He is often the ace for MVP, and is all around a very strong player. Is he top 2 in the world as his top 2 finish in the GSL would suggest? No... but he is still really damn good.
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On December 01 2012 14:42 DigitalDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:40 veKtory wrote: That was a classless thing to do by Ryung. You can complain about balance somewhere else, what he basically said was Sniper only won because his race is IMBA, you don't take away from someone's victory. Things like these are what's stopping E-Sports from being taken seriously. It's not Ryung that's damaging esports. It's the people that are taking what he says too seriously. Can players not say something in jest now? He meant exactly what he said.
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On December 01 2012 14:40 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:40 TiTanIum_ wrote:On December 01 2012 14:36 doffe wrote: whats with TL nowadays.. everyone playing terran or what? During the years ive been on this site never has balance whine been this extreme as the late couple of months.... go play zerg if you think its that easy to get good.. Im not saying the game is obviously fine but its fucking sad to see "zerg imba" when a zerg wins and more or less people saying that the Terran always played better.. this is obviously not the case. The zerg skillset is just not as visually obvious as the terrans is. you dont do fancy micro as zerg but the base mechanichs must be ridicolously good to get to that level. its not a-move... gah, im so tired of all the whiners.. you're the guys that truly are ruining e-sports. I play random. My w/l with the 3 races are: Terran: 33% Protoss: 55% Zerg: 80% Because that says a lot about balance.
says that zerg is potentially easier to play?
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that whine lead to terran getting massive nerfs, which is why people are going to whine unless zerg gets the same treatment
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when a unit dies of fungal/while fungaled it becomes an infested terran -> this change makes perfect sense and would solve a lot of balance issues in the game.
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On December 01 2012 14:43 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:40 veKtory wrote: That was a classless thing to do by Ryung. You can complain about balance somewhere else, what he basically said was Sniper only won because his race is IMBA, you don't take away from someone's victory. Things like these are what's stopping E-Sports from being taken seriously. Yes, I am sure Ryung is the first player to do this... Ryung killing e-sports!!! So pros can complain about it at MLG/GSL interviews, right?
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On December 01 2012 14:37 Rui.S wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:35 Fission wrote:On December 01 2012 14:34 tuoli9 wrote:On December 01 2012 14:31 Fission wrote: Ryung should face some disciplinary action from GOM. That is not acceptable behaviour. Oh FFS get over yourself... He BM'd in a semifinals game where he got horribly outplayed. That's embarrassing, and a poor standard to set. The only imbalance is in whiners' heads, not in the game. lets bring back 5 rax reapers and see if your opinion changes at least 5 rax reapers end before 10 mins mark
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It was classless, that's all that needs to be said. If Ryung wants to let the world know that he thinks the game is unbalanced, that's fine, but there are more appropriate and constructive ways of doing it.
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On December 01 2012 14:42 13JackaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:38 Fission wrote:On December 01 2012 14:37 Rui.S wrote:On December 01 2012 14:35 Fission wrote:On December 01 2012 14:34 tuoli9 wrote:On December 01 2012 14:31 Fission wrote: Ryung should face some disciplinary action from GOM. That is not acceptable behaviour. Oh FFS get over yourself... He BM'd in a semifinals game where he got horribly outplayed. That's embarrassing, and a poor standard to set. The only imbalance is in whiners' heads, not in the game. lets bring back 5 rax reapers and see if your opinion changes What the fuck does 5 rax reapers have to do with the current game balance? Nothing, that's what. You're an idiot. TvZ is not imbalanced right now. when every zerg in the world is complaining about it for a couple weeks, it gets nerfed. He is not an idiot, he's making a valid point. What if we said it's all in the whiners heads regarding every nerf to terran?
This is what makes me annoyed, when Zergs where whining in the beginning of the game every terran option for early aggression got nerfed, but when Zerg is winning everything Terrans are told to just figure it out (although I don't think balance played any role in this game 5). Actually, now that I think about it, now that queens have 5 range maybe we can have BBS and all that back.
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On December 01 2012 14:43 Rui.S wrote: that whine lead to terran getting massive nerfs, which is why people are going to whine unless zerg gets the same treatment or else it's double standards /shrug but oh well
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On December 01 2012 14:42 petrox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:40 TiTanIum_ wrote:On December 01 2012 14:36 doffe wrote: whats with TL nowadays.. everyone playing terran or what? During the years ive been on this site never has balance whine been this extreme as the late couple of months.... go play zerg if you think its that easy to get good.. Im not saying the game is obviously fine but its fucking sad to see "zerg imba" when a zerg wins and more or less people saying that the Terran always played better.. this is obviously not the case. The zerg skillset is just not as visually obvious as the terrans is. you dont do fancy micro as zerg but the base mechanichs must be ridicolously good to get to that level. its not a-move... gah, im so tired of all the whiners.. you're the guys that truly are ruining e-sports. I play random. My w/l with the 3 races are: Terran: 33% Protoss: 55% Zerg: 80% same here i switched from terran to random after queendralisk and the ferrarilord patch, my z v X winrate is now higher than my t v X.. T.T
LOL. I'm going to start using ferrarilord.
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although it was funny and i was completed fine with it, it may not be fine with GOM; http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/64582
9) There should be no communication between the players other than ‘GG’, ‘gg’, ‘ㅎㅎ’,'ㅈㅈ' and etc to surrender the game. i hope he's not punished though but it may happen
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On December 01 2012 14:44 negativedge wrote: It was classless, that's all that needs to be said. If Ryung wants to let the world know that he thinks the game is unbalanced, that's fine, but there are more appropriate and constructive ways of doing it.
I can't think of many more constructive ways to get the point across, the balance designers are sitting right there in the audience!
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Don't worry guys. By Call to Action #25346346 the game might be fun to watch again—
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On December 01 2012 14:44 negativedge wrote: It was classless, that's all that needs to be said. If Ryung wants to let the world know that he thinks the game is unbalanced, that's fine, but there are more appropriate and constructive ways of doing it.
...which have already been exercised and promptly ignored/undervalued, which is why players are now resorting to the stupider ways as well.
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On December 01 2012 14:44 proofy wrote: Don't worry guys. By Call to Action #25346346 the game might be fun to watch again— you mean legacy of the void? :o that's a long time
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On December 01 2012 14:43 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 14:42 DigitalDevil wrote:On December 01 2012 14:40 veKtory wrote: That was a classless thing to do by Ryung. You can complain about balance somewhere else, what he basically said was Sniper only won because his race is IMBA, you don't take away from someone's victory. Things like these are what's stopping E-Sports from being taken seriously. It's not Ryung that's damaging esports. It's the people that are taking what he says too seriously. Can players not say something in jest now? He meant exactly what he said. Even if he felt that way, he was not trying to stir up drama. Sniper probably took less offense than all the whiners in this thread.
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