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Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 17 2012 09:31 GMT
#6601
On November 17 2012 18:30 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:27 Waxangel wrote:
(P)HuK vs (Z)KiLLeR - Game One - Daybreak

The game played out the usual Daybreak PvZ fashion, with both players taking three bases to start and then going about working on their plans. Not surprisingly, Killer wanted to turtle up and go to brood lords, while HuK tried to hit with speedlots and archons to disrupt this timing. However he didn't come close to threatening Killer, and died to the floating cloud of death.



I'm amazed that Huk of all people is taking a third, let alone a fourth. Any Protoss that goes to 3 base is just asking to lose.


3 base timings are the only way to kill a competent Zerg, Immortal/Sentry is being figured out at this point.
jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
November 17 2012 09:31 GMT
#6602
how even is this game lol
Z: Idra #1 Stephano JD Scarlett Dimaga Life Violet DRG Sen; T: Demuslim Puma Illusion Bomber Polt TSpoon Strelok; P: Hasuobs Huk; Casters: Apollo #1 Axslav DJWheat Tasteless Bitter Artosis Incontrol RSimpson Psy Team: Let's GO EG!!
Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6603
lagggg
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6604
and it freezes during the 200/200 battle
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6605
And the stream goes offline!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6606
LOLOL
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6607
pro stream
Administrator
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6608
fuck you blizzard
IM & EG supporter
SedativeDev
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia316 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6609
wtf stream down???
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6610
NO
Maruprime.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6611
....aaaaaand the stream is dead again.


Nice -.-
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6612
stream down??

tt
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6613
here we go
did you read the script?
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6614
On November 17 2012 18:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:24 vthree wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:22 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:20 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:19 Enchanted wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:16 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:14 vthree wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:09 Havik_ wrote:
So will this end the "foreigners can't keep up with Koreans" bullshit?


I think we have known for a while now that when foreigners play their A game, they have a good shot at beating Koreans. However, outside of a couple players like Stephano and Nerchio, they just haven't been able to do it consistently.


Foreigners playing their A games?

From the upsets i have seen, it was more like Koreans botching their games more than foreigners winning.

Rain got out micro'd pretty hard in that second game. First game was him botching it but the second he just got out micro'd.


Rain never got out-microed.

He overextended after he pushed back Babyknight initial push.
Ended losing one immortal.
Cost him the game.

Either way he got out micro'd or made a stupid choice which lost him the game... he lost either way.


Your point being?

babyknight played better?


As much as I believe that Koreans are still generally better than foreigners (minus the aforementioned outliers), BabyKnight won over Rain. Whatever happened, that means that BabyKnight played better than Rain.

If anything, this should be a wake-up call for Koreans that they need to research their opponents better as their raw skill is no longer at a level that makes not knowing their opponents irrelevant. Still, foreigners are doing better but I don't believe that these players are the absolute best Korean players around (minus Rain). Send in Life, Leenock, Mvp and in-form players like Ryung, Flash and such. If the podium is multi-national then I'll concede.

Heck, even right now, apart from Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano, I bet most of the top spots will be filled with Koreans. In order for it to stay that way, though, Koreans need to stop being so arrogant and actually study foreign opposition.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6615
Getting some twitches of lag on the idra stream.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6616
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6617
both players remaxing and the stream goes down
hell is other people
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6618
rly?
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6619
wow are you serious?!
Someone call down the Thunder?
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 17 2012 09:32 GMT
#6620
omg....... Stream T_T
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
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