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munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
November 17 2012 09:28 GMT
#6581
On November 17 2012 18:21 Zenic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:10 X3GoldDot wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:09 Havik_ wrote:
So will this end the "foreigners can't keep up with Koreans" bullshit?


was never bullshit in the first place, just 1 even showing for foreigners and people are calling foreigners equal to koreans, when theres more than 20 tournaments where mid code S -code A players beat top foreigners.

The thing is the top code S players also lose to mid code S - code A players or would you really consider the GSL Ro16 (now) the top code S players?

The mid code S/code A players you say are beating the foreigners are players who live outside from korea or at least know the foreigners pretty well. For the most part europeans have a unfamiliar style for the koreans and that's why they are doing that well.
At least part of it also has to be that this is probably the deepest foreigner field we've ever had in a tournament. The two-tier national/continental tournament system leading up to this tournament has really been great for bringing in a lot of previously overlooked players.
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6582
IDRA TOP 3 CONTROL
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6583
So can anyone tell if either of them are throwing the match?
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6584
grack needs burrow if he is going to take that much damage.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6585
just me lagging oder is it the stream?
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6586
On November 17 2012 18:26 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:25 Gladiator333 wrote:
Does someone have a alter stream to the Stephano and IdrA game? That stream stutter steps a lot for me and freezes a lot along with other problems.

Refresh it. Its also happening to me from time to time.


Sorry but just tuned in on the stream, so really made no difference for me to refresh it.

Isn't OGN streaming some of the games?
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6587
On November 17 2012 18:27 th3_great wrote:
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On November 17 2012 18:27 enemy2010 wrote:
Blizzard facking it up big time -.-

How can a $100.000 first place prize tournament have such limited production value....


because they put the money in the prize pool instead of the production

They exported the production to a Chinese company iirc. The same company did the WCS Asia finals.

However, the OGN production looks really good so far.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6588
On November 17 2012 18:26 JackDT wrote:
I don't like how they pre-decided the group to bracket placing.

This could very well be a situation where Stephano would maximize his overall tournament winning chances by losing this match, because it puts him against an opponent he is confident against in the brackets.

Bad tourney design.

http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2012/8/1/playing-to-win-in-badminton.html


Only if he has a higher chance to beat HerO and BabyKnight than just Rain. Which is unlikely - Rain's PvZ is definitely better than those two, but Starcraft is a pretty high-variance game.
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 09:30:20
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6589
how does stephano have more drones, more roaches, and more infestors than idra. this guy too good
rip passion
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6590
lagggggg
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6591
so laggy..
IM & EG supporter
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6592
On November 17 2012 18:27 Derrida wrote:
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On November 17 2012 18:26 Mackus wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:25 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Just woke up, How's the lack of games been thus far?


Fixed.
Production has been a nightmare


What? There were like 30 series played so far. There were no lack of games.
Yeah they played like 5 hours with little to no downtime and constant games... However there seems to be some sort of hardware problem causing some downtime atm.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#6593
On November 17 2012 18:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:24 vthree wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:22 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:20 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:19 Enchanted wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:16 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:14 vthree wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:09 Havik_ wrote:
So will this end the "foreigners can't keep up with Koreans" bullshit?


I think we have known for a while now that when foreigners play their A game, they have a good shot at beating Koreans. However, outside of a couple players like Stephano and Nerchio, they just haven't been able to do it consistently.


Foreigners playing their A games?

From the upsets i have seen, it was more like Koreans botching their games more than foreigners winning.

Rain got out micro'd pretty hard in that second game. First game was him botching it but the second he just got out micro'd.


Rain never got out-microed.

He overextended after he pushed back Babyknight initial push.
Ended losing one immortal.
Cost him the game.

Either way he got out micro'd or made a stupid choice which lost him the game... he lost either way.


Your point being?

babyknight played better?


Yes he did. But not sure why he wrote that comment when the previous poster was just explaining the issue wasn't being out micro. It was just bad decision making.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 17 2012 09:30 GMT
#6594
On November 17 2012 18:29 CEPEHDREI wrote:
just me lagging oder is it the stream?


I had sudden lag spikes as well.
Always look on the bright side of life
Cocoabean
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada90 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 09:30:57
November 17 2012 09:30 GMT
#6595
I've seen probably 8 frames of the Idra/Stephano match in the last 5 minutes. Horrible production.

Colours are also unbelievably washed out.
www.twitch.tv/cocoabeans
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
November 17 2012 09:30 GMT
#6596
On November 17 2012 18:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
[image loading]

#1 Production

that means no curse. yay!
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
November 17 2012 09:30 GMT
#6597
On November 17 2012 18:27 Waxangel wrote:
(P)HuK vs (Z)KiLLeR - Game One - Daybreak

The game played out the usual Daybreak PvZ fashion, with both players taking three bases to start and then going about working on their plans. Not surprisingly, Killer wanted to turtle up and go to brood lords, while HuK tried to hit with speedlots and archons to disrupt this timing. However he didn't come close to threatening Killer, and died to the floating cloud of death.



I'm amazed that Huk of all people is taking a third, let alone a fourth. Any Protoss that goes to 3 base is just asking to lose.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 17 2012 09:31 GMT
#6598
On November 17 2012 18:30 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:29 CEPEHDREI wrote:
just me lagging oder is it the stream?


I had sudden lag spikes as well.


same i put it back to 720 instead of the 720+
Seems to work.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 17 2012 09:31 GMT
#6599
woah what the shit 0.O

Roro is out already, and ...Idra 2-0'd him..wut?

Babyknight 2-0'd Rain? The hell
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lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
November 17 2012 09:31 GMT
#6600
I will be very surprised if Idra can beat Stephano. Stephano is the superior tactical/positional player and he has the better infestor control.
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