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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
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OlSpiced
Austria96 Posts
On November 05 2012 21:31 Godwrath wrote: But you don't expect those local teams to get far. It's like saying Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France and Brazil should be banned from time to time of the football worldcup so we can watch other teams reaching the top. The only real problem is how this tournaments don't offer coverage or allow for us to watch ANY match going on. For example many people wanted to see Polt, other Idra, etc etc... so you could really follow the storyline you want to if you really don't want to have a more streamlined experience (MLG was focused on Flash - Rain, even if they weren't the champions). This. I don't mind Koreans dominating tounaments because they are the best so they deserve to. But I also want to see foreigners play, and i am usually cheering for them. I don't expect them to get to the finals, but please stream some of their games at least. It was pretty bad when they streamed the same game on both streams in the early stages, altough there were some other interesting matches going on. | ||
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
On November 05 2012 21:12 sitromit wrote: Naniwa was really lucky. He beat 2 foreigners, then won against Flash but lost to him in the extended series the next match, then lost to the next Korean. Essentially he only really beat 2 foreigners, and placed 9th due to bracket luck and seeding. Having to beat flash, then barely lose to him (when flash is a semi finalist for MLG), then, out of all the Koreans, he gets Rain, the OSL champion who is arguably the best player in the world. If anything, Naniwa got the unluckiest foreigner bracket of all. | ||
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Vandrad
Germany951 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:23 -TesteR- wrote: Having to beat flash, then barely lose to him (when flash is a semi finalist for MLG), then, out of all the Koreans, he gets Rain, the OSL champion who is arguably the best player in the world. If anything, Naniwa got the unluckiest foreigner bracket of all. And imo he didnt even look too bad vs Rain considering Rain beats anyone in PvP | ||
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budar
175 Posts
On November 05 2012 19:42 sharky246 wrote: There was only 1 foreigner (naniwa, placed 9th) in the top 16 in dallas, down 2 from the last mlg. I wish they'd do something about the absurdly huge amount of koreans. Like maybe a limit of x players from NA, EU and Asia each. Not trying to be racist, but spectator-wise, it isn't a good thing to have. You have that in WCS. MLG being an open tournament, it's pretty normal Koreans will enter it. For some of them, it's the best opportunity to win some actual money and get exposure (i.e. a chance to get picked up by a paying western team). The other thing is, everyone is getting a chance to know these players more and more, so they have their own stories and keep things interesting. For example, most people will know who Leenock is and his playstyle by now, possibly better than for most NA players. The core problem that people are missing when they falsely accuse foreigners of slacking off or whatever is that training conditions are just so different between Korea and NA/Europe. The latest (I think) episode of Pro Corner by ChanmanV with Cloud, TT1 and Major has a pretty interesting bit about this very issue. There is just very few very skilled foreigners and most are unwilling to "share" their knowledge through practice etc. The ladder is also a big problem - Major says in that show that he only plays on Korea now with 200ms ping because he got worse by playing on NA. Koreans at least get to play top barcodes on the ladder... doesn't really matter who it is if they're really good. | ||
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Wounded31
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blug
Australia623 Posts
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DiLiGu
United States185 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10168 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:46 Wounded31 wrote: Drops out of GSL, then wins MLG. Worth it? When did Life drop GSL ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_S Is that wrong ? | ||
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SeAK
Canada69 Posts
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:51 Godwrath wrote: When did Life drop GSL ? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_S Is that wrong ? Their group doesn't play yet... They informed Gom that they are attending MLG so they adjust the schedule that their group plays after MLG. Rain did a last minute MLG sign up, that is why they couldn't accommodate Rain. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10168 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:55 Northern_iight wrote: Their group doesn't play yet... They informed Gom that they are attending MLG so they adjust the schedule that their group plays after MLG. Rain did a last minute MLG sign up, that is why they couldn't accommodate Rain. But Rain didn't win MLG  | ||
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ChillRussian
United States5 Posts
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Maloreon
United States911 Posts
Which is why Leenock manhandled him 4-2 and Bomber 2-0'd him. Rain is good but has done nothing to signify he's up there with MVP, Life, Leenock (current most consistent players). Certainly a top 10 player in the world but that is about it. | ||
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Acer1791
Germany182 Posts
On November 06 2012 00:21 Maloreon wrote: Which is why Leenock manhandled him 4-2 and Bomber 2-0'd him. Rain is good but has done nothing to signify he's up there with MVP, Life, Leenock (current most consistent players). Certainly a top 10 player in the world but that is about it. rain is a pretty consistent player. he just had to play 1000 thousand games to get there, i really think it was all about stamina at the final mlg day  | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
On November 06 2012 00:38 Acer1791 wrote: rain is a pretty consistent player. he just had to play 1000 thousand games to get there, i really think it was all about stamina at the final mlg day Even flash seemed to be suffering near the end - did not seem himself in the last 4 games versus life. I agree - while the hype surrounding Rain has lowered, I believe a fully rested Rain would destroy Bomber most of the time, and would usually beat Leenock too. | ||
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Maloreon
United States911 Posts
On November 06 2012 00:57 UnholyRai wrote: Even flash seemed to be suffering near the end - did not seem himself in the last 4 games versus life. I agree - while the hype surrounding Rain has lowered, I believe a fully rested Rain would destroy Bomber most of the time, and would usually beat Leenock too. Leenock and Rain played while fully rested (beginning of the day) and Leenock manhandled him. It was very one-sided. Leenock's style is a bit much for Rain who is very dependent on pre-Hive timings - while Leenock is one of the few zerg who feels comfortable playing and excelling pre-Hive tech. I don't think you can say fatigue was the issue for Rain in that match - in the Bomber match possibly. But I'm not sure why Rain is suddenly more vulnerable to fatigue than other players, not really a strong argument. And besides, these guys are used to playing all day every day - the only thing really taxing here is travel and on that they are all equal (they all travel, and travel is tiring). | ||
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
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F14C0
Colombia17 Posts
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On November 06 2012 00:05 ChillRussian wrote: damn Life is one ugly dude ROFL, good thing he can get some paper playing this game cause aint no bitch goin with dat dude if he broke lmao User was banned for this post. Lol he won 76k playing the game at age of 15. I'm sure he's in a better position comparing to an immature and insecure nerd with no job. In case it's too hard for your brain to understand, I was talking about you. | ||
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