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On November 05 2012 21:16 KingPaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 21:14 opterown wrote:On November 05 2012 21:12 Laryleprakon wrote:On November 05 2012 21:11 WigglingSquid wrote:On November 05 2012 21:09 FakeDeath wrote:On November 05 2012 21:07 TommyP wrote:On November 05 2012 21:03 TheBB wrote:
Group E
DongRaeGu: 100.000%
Creator: 58.580%
Mvp: 41.420%
Bbyong: 0.000% i thought Elephants were supposed to win? Technically speaking, MVP,Symbol,DRG are elephants. Half of the SC2 professional playerbase would be elephants if that was your metric. Puma? Elephant. jjakji? Elephant. MC? Etc. It would be way over half. pretty much all save for the really young ones and the WC3 players, haha But wasn't it according to the article: players who have already switched to SC2 = bad, players who still played BW = good/elephant?
Pretty much this was his main assertion (quoted from the article):
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch. Among this group there are a notable few that CRUSH any other players in terms of raw talent and/or work ethic and/or ability to learn. This knowledge cheapens any form of competition I see right now, no matter how much I try to enjoy the games."
Which has entirely been disproved. They've been given the time and are only holding even with Code S players, not dominating. I mean Flash is looking sexy already but it was not the "no competition in a few months they will get owned" kind of thing that the article claimed and especially the Kespa fanboys were blabbing about back in August.
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Norway25712 Posts
On November 05 2012 21:16 KristofferAG wrote: Mvp v  Creator
0 - 0Maps: Bel&TBD TBD 05.00Mvp spawning as the blue Terran in the 11 o'clock position. Creator spawning as the red Protoss in the 5 o'clock position. Bel'Shir Vestige isn't in TLPD yet, apparently. Mvp called this a Tossmap. Creator thinks it's Terranmap. It's Dayhana, guys. Rax and Gateway at standard timings. Rax on the wall for Mvp. Assimilator coming in from Creator. Cybernetics Core from Creator, not skipping Zealot. 1rax expand from Mvp, getting CC in his main. Warpgate tech started by Creator. Nexus goes down on the natural of Creator. Bunker on the natural for Mvp as he starts third CC. Two gates added on for Creator. Scouting Zealot scared away by Marines. Second Gas taken by Creator. 2 Barracks added on for Mvp.
10.00
Robotics Facility from Creator.
Double gas taken for Mvp as he floats his OC to the natural.
Second Bunker going up for Mvp on the natural as he starts Stim.
marauders started.
Scouting Probe is taken out, first Observer is out and headed for Mvps base.
Third CC is finshed, not floating out.
Factory started by Mvp.
Creator takes third Nexus in the bottom left.
Double gas on Mvps natural.
Double gas taken on Creators natural.
Mvp getting double Engineering Bay.
First Immortal in production for Creator.
Starport placed down by Mvp.
Double Forge from Creator.
SCV from Mvp scouts the third of Creator.
Twilight Council placed down by Creator.
Mvp starts 1/1..
Mvp chases down the Observer in his main, takes it out.
Floating his CC to the base on the left side of the map, adding on two Barracks and getting Combat SHields/Concussive Shells.
Robotics Bay and another Gateway started for Creator along with 1/1 and Blink.
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On November 05 2012 21:18 NicksonReyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 21:15 Maloreon wrote:On November 05 2012 21:13 opterown wrote:On November 05 2012 21:11 Maloreon wrote:On November 05 2012 21:10 opterown wrote:On November 05 2012 21:09 NicksonReyes wrote:On November 05 2012 21:07 TommyP wrote:On November 05 2012 21:03 TheBB wrote:
Group E
DongRaeGu: 100.000%
Creator: 58.580%
Mvp: 41.420%
Bbyong: 0.000% i thought Elephants were supposed to win? Yeah I mean Bbyong is like one of the most legendary godly op imba bonjwa terrans back then. He should win everytime. article was stupid anyway, haha I pointed this out after the MLG results (Leenock Life murdering Kespa) and was told I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to read lol.... Kespa is certainly showing some great players (Hyvaa, SoO, Rain, Flash, etc.) but the elephant article is proven to be a total joke now. fanboys gonna fan - which is to be expected since we are both so invested in our scenes that we want our players to do well. it's good to have banter and competition, but not when it gets to flaming and attacks. it was a lot worse in the WCS KR when that was going on, a bit better now that things have settled. I'll tell you the one scene I'm fully invested into: the SC2 scene. I could care less who dominates, just want to see some good SC2. Well, in that case, just be like the quiet ones and ignore the article, and look at the SC2 scene as one and not as Kespa vs esf. Not really hard to do that.
Sure, probably the best approach. Still get so tired of hearing illogical arguments. LOL.
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On November 05 2012 21:03 TheBB wrote:
Group E
DongRaeGu: 100.000%
Creator: 58.580%
Mvp: 41.420%
Bbyong: 0.000%
Where do these numbers come from?
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On November 05 2012 21:20 Raygun wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 21:03 TheBB wrote:
Group E
DongRaeGu: 100.000%
Creator: 58.580%
Mvp: 41.420%
Bbyong: 0.000% Where do these numbers come from?
ELO
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Norway25712 Posts
On November 05 2012 21:20 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 21:16 KristofferAG wrote:Mvp v Creator
0 - 0Maps:Bel&TBD TBD 05.00Mvp spawning as the blue Terran in the 11 o'clock position. Creator spawning as the red Protoss in the 5 o'clock position. Bel'Shir Vestige isn't in TLPD yet, apparently. Mvp called this a Tossmap. Creator thinks it's Terranmap. It's Dayhana, guys. Rax and Gateway at standard timings. Rax on the wall for Mvp. Assimilator coming in from Creator. Cybernetics Core from Creator, not skipping Zealot. 1rax expand from Mvp, getting CC in his main. Warpgate tech started by Creator. Nexus goes down on the natural of Creator. Bunker on the natural for Mvp as he starts third CC. Two gates added on for Creator. Scouting Zealot scared away by Marines. Second Gas taken by Creator. 2 Barracks added on for Mvp.
10.00
Robotics Facility from Creator.
Double gas taken for Mvp as he floats his OC to the natural.
Second Bunker going up for Mvp on the natural as he starts Stim.
marauders started.
Scouting Probe is taken out, first Observer is out and headed for Mvps base.
Third CC is finshed, not floating out.
Factory started by Mvp.
Creator takes third Nexus in the bottom left.
Double gas on Mvps natural.
Double gas taken on Creators natural.
Mvp getting double Engineering Bay.
First Immortal in production for Creator.
Starport placed down by Mvp.
Double Forge from Creator.
SCV from Mvp scouts the third of Creator.
Twilight Council placed down by Creator.
Mvp starts 1/1..
Mvp chases down the Observer in his main, takes it out.
Floating his CC to the base on the left side of the map, adding on two Barracks and getting Combat SHields/Concussive Shells.
Robotics Bay and another Gateway started for Creator along with 1/1 and Blink.
15.00
Creator picks off a Medivac as Mvp tries to take a Tower.
Armory started by Mvp as his 1/1 finishes up.
Colossus range and Collosus production started for Creator.
Mvp taking the second gas on his third, starts +2 attack.
Drop coming into the main of Creator OOPS I CLICKED POST.
Drop goes down but a quick blink takes out the MEdivac as the units are finished dropping out.
Mvp tries to push out but pulls back as he spots Creators army. QUick blink takes out two Medivacs.
+2 armor from Mvp, +1 air attack and Viking production.
Charge almost finished for Creator. Adds on Templar Archives.
Four more Gateways added on for Creator.
2/2 finishes up for Creator, ahead of Mvp.
Another CC and Ghost Academy coming in from Mvp
Creator taking his fourth in the lower left.
Viking production keeps up, Colossus production halted.3/3 started for Creator, 2/2 finishes for Mvp.
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On November 05 2012 21:13 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 21:11 Maloreon wrote:On November 05 2012 21:10 opterown wrote:On November 05 2012 21:09 NicksonReyes wrote:On November 05 2012 21:07 TommyP wrote:On November 05 2012 21:03 TheBB wrote:
Group E
DongRaeGu: 100.000%
Creator: 58.580%
Mvp: 41.420%
Bbyong: 0.000% i thought Elephants were supposed to win? Yeah I mean Bbyong is like one of the most legendary godly op imba bonjwa terrans back then. He should win everytime. article was stupid anyway, haha I pointed this out after the MLG results (Leenock Life murdering Kespa) and was told I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to read lol.... Kespa is certainly showing some great players (Hyvaa, SoO, Rain, Flash, etc.) but the elephant article is proven to be a total joke now. fanboys gonna fan - which is to be expected since we are both so invested in our scenes that we want our players to do well. it's good to have banter and competition, but not when it gets to flaming and attacks. it was a lot worse in the WCS KR when that was going on, a bit better now that things have settled.
Yeah, things have gotten sooo much better. When it first started, it was just gross. >_<
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Mvp not looking so hot. 
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Creator playing this really well.
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On November 05 2012 21:22 andaylin wrote:Mvp not looking so hot.
prime fans not gonna prime?
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Lol I just realized this isnt Ohana. Was wondering if it was some kind of updated version, less grass etc...
Then I spotted that Bel'Shir Vestige. 
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On November 05 2012 21:22 opterown wrote:prime fans not gonna prime?
But I'm Terran haha . Dunno what to do.
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opterown
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First time I've ever heard Artosis say 'terrible forcefields' lol
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yeayeayeayea Creator!!! woo
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fuck yeah one more creator come on
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