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 The time has come for the Contender group matches of the IGN Pro Team League! 
 
 Group B Schedule: NSHoSeo vs Empire - September 14Karont3 vs Dignitas - September 21
 NSHoSeo vs Dignitas - September 28
 Karont3 vs Empire - October 5
 Empire vs Dignitas - October 12
 Karont3 vs NSHoSeo - October 19
 
 
 Special note - AlternateType did not respond to compLexity in time and were forfeited for this match. Therefore we moved the schedule up a day. Tomorrow's match slot will be replaced shortly and this thread will be updated when it is.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 When: Friday, Oct 19 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!) 
 
 
 Format
 Contender Division Group A is made up of four teams: Acer, aTn Type, compLexity, and FXO. Group B contains NSHoSeo, Empire, Karont3, and Dignitas. Both groups will play round robin against each other team in their group. When group stages are over, the top two teams from each Group will play against the bottom two from each Premier Group for a chance to enter that division! The bottom 2 teams from each Contender Group automatically fall to the Amateur Division and their spots are taken by our top performing Amateur teams.
 
 
 
 
 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9kKFa.jpg) Karont3 LoLvsxD Lucifron Ryo VortiX AlastOr MikOeL Verdi ![[image loading]](http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/922/nshsicon.png) NSHoSeo Tassadar jjakji Seal Sculp Brave SalvatioN
 
 The First Game of the IPTL Contender Division Group A is on Friday, Oct 19 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!) 
 
 Poll: Who will win?Karont3 (15)    56%NsHoSeo  (12)    44% 27 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Karont3(Vote): NsHoSeo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Map List
 IPLMap Khaydaria
 IPLMap Atlantis Spaceship
 IPLMap Antiga Shipyard
 IPLMap Daybreak
 IPLMap Whirlwind
 IPLMap Cloud Kingdom
 IPLMap Metropolis
 IPLMap Ohana
 IPLMap Entombed Valley
 
 The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.
 
 
 
 Casters
 Today's games will be commentated by Kevin Knocke and AskJoshy!
 
 
 
 
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				NSH fighting! 
 I really hope they have a better outcome then the last IPL match.
 
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				Vile is gone, Slayers is dead. NSHoseo, don't you die on me too!
			
		
		
	 
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				Gogo Vortix and Lucifron!!
			
		
		
	 
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				this should be good   
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						This match doesn't matter for K3, they're through regardless of what happens today they are fighting for the life of dignitas who can get through if they win as for hoseo it's all the line for them if they win they're through if they lose they're out.
							
							 
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				To be honest, it looks like NSHS doesn't have anyone that can take down VortiX, and only jjakji and tassadar to take down lucifron.  Given that the other players of Karont3 have shown to be able to take at least 2 games between them, and given that the other NSHS members are so weak, I have to give Karont3 the 5-2 or 5-1 victory.  The number of losses that Karont3 will take depends on if Karont3 sends out LoLvsxD (not so good), Verdi (good), or either of the other two (somewhere in between).
			
		
	 
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				On October 20 2012 06:00 Komentaja wrote:To be honest, it looks like NSHS doesn't have anyone that can take down VortiX, and only jjakji and tassadar to take down lucifron.  Given that the other players of Karont3 have shown to be able to take at least 2 games between them, and given that the other NSHS members are so weak, I have to give Karont3 the 5-2 or 5-1 victory.  The number of losses that Karont3 will take depends on if Karont3 sends out LoLvsxD (not so good), Verdi (good), or either of the other two (somewhere in between).
 
 Nshoseo has gotten pretty weak, but those Koreans certainly can take down VortiX and Lucifron (not saying they are favored). Jjakji is still an absolute boss and probably favored against both.
 
 Anyone other than Vortix/Lucifron getting a win against a player on a Korean pro team would still be a decent upset.
 
 I rate Vortix and Lucifron pretty highly, but Nshoseo is still favored here IMO.
 
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				I'd like to see Jumanji vs Lucifron, but since GSL finals are tomorrow, I'm rather going to bed.
			
		
		
	 
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				I have a dream.  I dream of the day that foreigners cease to under-rate koreans simply because they are lesser known.  
 Seriously, NSH gonna crush through today I think.
 
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				if jjakji loses so does nsh. vortix and lucifron are strong and either of them have the skills to take out jjakji. tassadar might be nsh's saving grace and seal+sculp havn't been showing their 'possible code S' skills lately.
 5-2 karont3
 
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				This is basically can jjakiji can take down the Spanish brothers. If jjakiji has a really good day he can do it, but the odds are against him.
			
		
		
	 
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				Go Go Vortix! Team kill time   
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				Why does everyone underrate Verdi so much? O_o
			
		
		
	 
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				Why is Seal still listed on the roster? 
			
		
	 
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						Yay brown he's one of the best shots at bringing down hyun.
							
							 
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				Vortix as starter, the spanish armada is not kidding around.
 
 On October 20 2012 06:16 TheDougler wrote:I have a dream.  I dream of the day that foreigners cease to under-rate koreans simply because they are lesser known.
 
 Seriously, NSH gonna crush through today I think.
 
 Well, I was on that opinion before frikin Jrecco killed everyone in NSH beside Jjakji.
 
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						And vortix goes down to brave quickly brutally without taking any maps not a good start.
							
							 
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						 Ryo deciding to choya it lmao.
 
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				ooooh, two cool teams. nshs used to be so awesome with seal and freaky. still got tassadar though, ever the antagonist.
			
		
		
	 
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				Never underestimate koreans just because they are not in GSL or foreign tournaments. They still practice a shit ton on the best ladder and have some of the best work ethic.
			
		
		
	 
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				i wish catspyjamas would grow his hair real long, and make a ponytail.i think he'd look severely badass.
 
 edit: with the beard ofc. ponytail and no beard is not allowed.
 
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						Yeah the choya tactic did not work for ryo.
							
							 
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				On October 20 2012 08:10 Noocta wrote:Vortix as starter, the spanish armada is not kidding around. Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 06:16 TheDougler wrote:I have a dream.  I dream of the day that foreigners cease to under-rate koreans simply because they are lesser known.
 
 Seriously, NSH gonna crush through today I think.
 Well, I was on that opinion before frikin Jrecco killed everyone in NSH beside Jjakji.  
 ...I find your lack of faith disturbing.
 
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				Foreign team will get the vote every time, and Korean team will win every time, as always.
			
		
		
	 
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						Im surprised already. Figured a VortiX all kill or four kill or three kill at least. But Brave two kill? Oo;;
							  
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						 On October 20 2012 08:41 SeeKeR wrote:Im surprised already. Figured a VortiX all kill or four kill or three kill at least. But Brave two kill? Oo;;
 Online team leagues causes beast mode in b-teamers just ask zenex.
 
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				zenex and nshs coolest korean teams. 
 waiting for the gamedeciding engagement. go lucifron, i want to see tassadar.
 
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						Brave is everywhere with these zealots enjoying brave's play today.
							
							 
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						Brave just bopped all 3 duran brothers looks like an all kill is on the horizon.
							
							 
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				These guys just missed the game. 
			
		
	 
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				Brave is looking so strong right now.
 Edit: Looks like an all kill
 
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				Yeah Brave!
 
 Aaand all the Vortix and Lucifron hype falls down. The community needs to stop overhyping people off a few foreign tournament results.
 
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						 On October 20 2012 08:50 Fusilero wrote:Brave just bopped all 3 duran brothers looks like an all kill is on the horizon.
 Not horizon right now lmao gg no re brave.
 
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				ok, well... grats brave! well played.
 +5 fan points from me.
 
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				On October 20 2012 08:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:These guys just missed the game.
 
 I'm sure moses and the ten command centres and whether or not that was a good joke was more interesting anyways...
 
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				Congrats to Karonte for getting all-killed and making the Premier division.
			
		
		
	 
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						GL against startale, IM, EG, MVP and FXO/TSL K3 brothers gonna need to work their balls off.
							
							 
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						 So should we count this as an all kill for liquipedia purposes?
 
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				Anyone think K3 threw the match to get the bye?
 Oh nvm looks like they didnt know about it.
 
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				On October 20 2012 08:54 GettingIt wrote:Anyone think K3 threw the match to get the bye?
 
 it crossed my mind, but impossible to say ofc.
 
 edit: knocke cleared it up there i guess. no throw.
 
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				On October 20 2012 08:51 Falconblade wrote:Yeah Brave!
 
 
 Aaand all the Vortix and Lucifron hype falls down. The community needs to stop overhyping people off a few foreign tournament results.
 
 I don't understand this mentality. It's an bo1 played online, it dosnt fucking matter T___T GG Brave he played well but dont be an idiot please.
 
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				On October 20 2012 08:51 Falconblade wrote:Yeah Brave!
 
 
 Aaand all the Vortix and Lucifron hype falls down. The community needs to stop overhyping people off a few foreign tournament results.
 
 it's exactly the opposite, people like you need to stop "LOL hyped player x isn't that good after all HUH GAIS" after a cross server bo1, jesus christ
 
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				On October 20 2012 08:55 CryMeAReaper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 08:51 Falconblade wrote:Yeah Brave!
 
 
 Aaand all the Vortix and Lucifron hype falls down. The community needs to stop overhyping people off a few foreign tournament results.
 I don't understand this mentality. It's an bo1 played online, it dosnt fucking matter T___T GG Brave he played well but dont be an idiot please. 
 
 So it's fair for people to say that Vortix and Lucifron will get many kills, even beating jjaki? How is that not idiotic? People need to stop hyping up foreign heroes. What about the idiotic mentality that people will 5-2, 5-1 because they have been good in the foreign scene? I don't understand that mentality. I'm not a fan of NSHS (look at my tag, my favorite team is foreign), but the absolute hype is ridiculous.
 
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				Surprising TL votes for the poll considering NSH is a pretty strong team still.
			
		
	 
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				So did they just forfeit because they knew they were going to lose or did they have no more players available?
			
		
	 
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				On October 20 2012 09:12 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 08:55 CryMeAReaper wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 Falconblade wrote:Yeah Brave!
 
 
 Aaand all the Vortix and Lucifron hype falls down. The community needs to stop overhyping people off a few foreign tournament results.
 I don't understand this mentality. It's an bo1 played online, it dosnt fucking matter T___T GG Brave he played well but dont be an idiot please. So it's fair for people to say that Vortix and Lucifron will get many kills, even beating jjaki? How is that not idiotic? People need to stop hyping up foreign heroes. What about the idiotic mentality that people will 5-2, 5-1 because they have been good in the foreign scene? I don't understand that mentality. I'm not a fan of NSHS (look at my tag, my favorite team is foreign), but the absolute hype is ridiculous. 
 Idk it just seems weird to say that the hype will fall down after they lose a bo1 cross server, makes no sense. The hype will fall down if they repeatedly dissappoint at live events, as it should if that were to happen.
 
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				On October 20 2012 06:00 Komentaja wrote:To be honest, it looks like NSHS doesn't have anyone that can take down VortiX, and only jjakji and tassadar to take down lucifron.  Given that the other players of Karont3 have shown to be able to take at least 2 games between them, and given that the other NSHS members are so weak, I have to give Karont3 the 5-2 or 5-1 victory.  The number of losses that Karont3 will take depends on if Karont3 sends out LoLvsxD (not so good), Verdi (good), or either of the other two (somewhere in between).
 
 Well, I look pretty stupid.  But, as other people pointed out, this match doesn't matter to Karont3 in the least; it's possible that, otherwise, they would have at least sent out more than 3 players.  So I'm going to hide in that hole now.
 
 Korean B-teamers.  Sheesh.
 
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				On October 20 2012 09:12 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 08:55 CryMeAReaper wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 Falconblade wrote:Yeah Brave!
 
 
 Aaand all the Vortix and Lucifron hype falls down. The community needs to stop overhyping people off a few foreign tournament results.
 I don't understand this mentality. It's an bo1 played online, it dosnt fucking matter T___T GG Brave he played well but dont be an idiot please. So it's fair for people to say that Vortix and Lucifron will get many kills, even beating jjaki? How is that not idiotic? People need to stop hyping up foreign heroes. What about the idiotic mentality that people will 5-2, 5-1 because they have been good in the foreign scene? I don't understand that mentality. I'm not a fan of NSHS (look at my tag, my favorite team is foreign), but the absolute hype is ridiculous. 
 maybe because JRecco got a 4-kill? xD
 
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						 On October 20 2012 09:13 zephiK wrote:Surprising TL votes for the poll considering NSH is a pretty strong team still.
 probably because NSH fell to Dignitas earlier on when JRecco 4 killed them
 
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				On October 20 2012 08:32 NoGasfOu wrote:Foreign team will get the vote every time, and Korean team will win every time, as always.
 you mean like vs Dignitas :p?
 
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				Karont3 seems to be promoted directly after slayers disband. Congrats!
			
		
	 
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				Ridiculous is people forcing their views on others.. fuck that!
 The spanish armada is for real and it won't be a cross server bo1 that will prove otherwise..
 
 They lost this one.. get over it!
 
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				Well it's obvious that Karont3 didn't take this seriously at all. They sent out their manager to play, and didn't bother getting AlastOr, Verdi or Mikoel to play (who are not on team Karont3, they're merely on loan); they knew they were still going to get through, so they didn't bother. I don't want to take away anything from NSH and Brave coz he played well, but there's not much to read in this match at all. They don't usually send their heavy hitters out first either. It's a pity Karont3 didn't take this as seriously as they could have.
			
		
		
	 
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