2. Open Network Stream in VLC Player (under Media)
3. Click on the Network tab, paste the link and hit play. If you encounter an error keep tying to initialize the stream, it may take a few tries depending on when you try to connect. Also note that it is best to try to connect a few minutes before the broadcast to get a working and/or smooth stream.
4. Enjoy the awesomeness of Kim Carrier, Jun Yong Joon, and Um Jae Kyung. :D
Broadcast begins Tuesday, Oct 02 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Due to the twitch broadcasting issues OGN will also rebroadcast Flying vs MC tomorrow at 08:00 GMT (+00:00).
Korean Casters: Kim Carrier, Jun Yong Joon, and Um Jae Kyung English Casters: Doa and Moletrap
If MC wants to win today, he must forget about what happened against Seed in his last PvP series, but I'm not sure if he will be able to. Usually MC chooses the correct builds in this type of situation, but he failed to do so in the GSL Finals. Flying appears to be the real deal in SC2 as far as I am concerned, and I expect him to have a very high level of preparation for this match, especially considering the number of MC VODs that are out there. Like others have also mentioned, I fondly remember his breakout all-kill from a few years back, and perhaps he can put on a great performance today against an extremely deadly opponent. His best PvP achievement is a 2-0 record against the almighty By.Sun, but he also has an 0-2 record against the lackluster BeSt fwiw. I am hoping for a close series with entertaining games and my heart says 3-2 MC! But, my head says 3-1 or 3-2 Flying.
However, this will probably just end up being a boring Bo5 with lots of lasers
On October 02 2012 06:00 Nosforit wrote: Random question, is Grubby totally finished casting OSL or on a break right now? He's the whole reason I watch the English stream!
MC on top, Flying on bottom sends an early probe and starts with a forge first...the rest you can surmise probably. Flying tries to abuse the low ground position on Antiga and gets 1 cannon to go up. GG
On October 02 2012 20:01 wo1fwood wrote: Flying spawns on bottom, MC at top, both are 1gate core with double gas, though flying has a hidden probe in MC's base.
4 gate inc from Flying, twighlight and +2 gates from MC
On October 02 2012 20:01 wo1fwood wrote: Flying spawns on bottom, MC at top, both are 1gate core with double gas, though flying has a hidden probe in MC's base.
4 gate inc from Flying, twighlight and +2 gates from MC
Flying gets 2 pylons up in MC's base ,but MC kills them JUST in time (flying loses 3 warpin zealots)
On October 02 2012 20:01 wo1fwood wrote: Flying spawns on bottom, MC at top, both are 1gate core with double gas, though flying has a hidden probe in MC's base.
4 gate inc from Flying, twighlight and +2 gates from MC
Flying gets 2 pylons up in MC's base ,but MC kills them JUST in time (flying loses 3 warpin zealots)
MC now counter pushing
MC adds an expansion along with Flying a little later. Both have Robotics now.
On October 02 2012 20:01 wo1fwood wrote: Flying spawns on bottom, MC at top, both are 1gate core with double gas, though flying has a hidden probe in MC's base.
4 gate inc from Flying, twighlight and +2 gates from MC
Flying gets 2 pylons up in MC's base ,but MC kills them JUST in time (flying loses 3 warpin zealots)
MC now counter pushing
MC adds an expansion along with Flying a little later. Both have Robotics now.
MC adds robo bay and +4 gates flying still on 4 gates, robo bay half done.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Fenrax wrote: ok, I know there is probably some fucking drama that I fucking missed, but how is the fucking OSL RO8 not in the fucking calendar???
On October 02 2012 20:01 wo1fwood wrote: Flying spawns on bottom, MC at top, both are 1gate core with double gas, though flying has a hidden probe in MC's base.
4 gate inc from Flying, twighlight and +2 gates from MC
Flying gets 2 pylons up in MC's base ,but MC kills them JUST in time (flying loses 3 warpin zealots)
MC now counter pushing
MC adds an expansion along with Flying a little later. Both have Robotics now.
MC adds robo bay and +4 gates flying still on 4 gates, robo bay half done.
And MC wants to pressure again with 1 colossus.
both fight at Flyings natural but with some forcefield control and non snipe of the colossus MC wins the fight. GG Flying.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Fenrax wrote: ok, I know there is probably some fucking drama that I fucking missed, but how is the fucking OSL RO8 not in the fucking calendar???
its been in the calender for a while....
I just got home. it wasnt yesterday and it isnt now. Almost missed it!
On October 02 2012 20:09 Fenrax wrote: ok, I know there is probably some fucking drama that I fucking missed, but how is the fucking OSL RO8 not in the fucking calendar???
edit: and where is the fucking stream??? *rage*
It is?? It keeps disapearring on the side because the stream sucks ass and keeps going offline.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Fenrax wrote: ok, I know there is probably some fucking drama that I fucking missed, but how is the fucking OSL RO8 not in the fucking calendar???
It´s on OSL to put it there and OSL don´t really seem to care about foreign audiences.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Fenrax wrote: ok, I know there is probably some fucking drama that I fucking missed, but how is the fucking OSL RO8 not in the fucking calendar???
its been in the calender for a while....
I just got home. it wasnt yesterday and it isnt now. Almost missed it!
On October 02 2012 20:09 Fenrax wrote: ok, I know there is probably some fucking drama that I fucking missed, but how is the fucking OSL RO8 not in the fucking calendar???
It´s on OSL to put it there and OSL don´t really seem to care about foreign audiences.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
Man I wish OGN/Kespa would get a clue and realize how bad they are screwing themselves out of viewers with Moletrap/Doa as their only English casters and various stream problems. Seriously, literally 10 minutes of research or a 5minute phone call with any big foreign SC2 figure would have told them Moletrap/Doa combo is suicide. You know there's a problem when GSL's Code A round of 48 has 10x more pages of discussion than the round of 8 of your tournament..
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
i've put them in the same place as when the GSL started out, after another season or two im sure they'll have it right. but this is just sooooooooooooo bad
On October 02 2012 20:13 darkest44 wrote: Man I wish OGN/Kespa would get a clue and realize how bad they are screwing themselves out of viewers with Moletrap/Doa as their only English casters. You know there's a problem when GSL's Code A round of 48 has 10x more pages of discussion then the round of 8 of your tournament..
they don't make money from foreign audience.. it's already a pretty big deal to have english speaking casters they're wasting money on this you know ?
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
oh well i never spent a single penny to watch starcraft in over 12 years i think people shouldn't have to spend money on that but that's just my own opinion
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
i've put them in the same place as when the GSL started out, after another season or two im sure they'll have it right. but this is just sooooooooooooo bad
GSL was BW, too, once. And there was drama, too. Mainly Kespas fault.
Anyway, I can understand that this is a bit annoying. But on the other hand, there is a ton of potential, not only the players but also the organization.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
oh well i never spent a single penny to watch starcraft in over 12 years i think people shouldn't have to spend money on that but that's just my own opinion
lol indeed, but you know some people want english casting and a HD stream not one or the other.
On October 02 2012 20:13 darkest44 wrote: Man I wish OGN/Kespa would get a clue and realize how bad they are screwing themselves out of viewers with Moletrap/Doa as their only English casters. You know there's a problem when GSL's Code A round of 48 has 10x more pages of discussion then the round of 8 of your tournament..
they don't make money from foreign audience.. it's already a pretty big deal to have english speaking casters they're wasting money on this you know ?
Of course they don't make money with the way they're doing it, that's the point. They COULD make money off the foreign audience, just like GOM does, and have the korean audience on top of that, instead they hire Moletrap/Doa for no good reason. There's plenty of better casting duos who I'm sure would work for similar wages and be honored to cast OSL as whatever they are paying these two.
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
oh well i never spent a single penny to watch starcraft in over 12 years i think people shouldn't have to spend money on that but that's just my own opinion
lol indeed, but you know some people want english casting and a HD stream not one or the other.
On October 02 2012 20:13 darkest44 wrote: Man I wish OGN/Kespa would get a clue and realize how bad they are screwing themselves out of viewers with Moletrap/Doa as their only English casters. You know there's a problem when GSL's Code A round of 48 has 10x more pages of discussion then the round of 8 of your tournament..
they don't make money from foreign audience.. it's already a pretty big deal to have english speaking casters they're wasting money on this you know ?
Are you sure they aren't trying to target the foreign audience from now on ? btw, this kind of bs won't help selling season passes on twitch.
On October 02 2012 20:13 darkest44 wrote: Man I wish OGN/Kespa would get a clue and realize how bad they are screwing themselves out of viewers with Moletrap/Doa as their only English casters. You know there's a problem when GSL's Code A round of 48 has 10x more pages of discussion then the round of 8 of your tournament..
they don't make money from foreign audience.. it's already a pretty big deal to have english speaking casters they're wasting money on this you know ?
Of course they don't make money with the way they're doing it, that's the point. They COULD make money off the foreign audience, just like GOM does, and have the korean audience on top of that.
i think they're not really after that kind of money (maybe its too small of a gain ?) they get money from tv ads
i'm pretty sure these two sources of income are of a very noticable difference in magnitude
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
oh well i never spent a single penny to watch starcraft in over 12 years i think people shouldn't have to spend money on that but that's just my own opinion
lol indeed, but you know some people want english casting and a HD stream not one or the other.
so they are willing to pay for it.
yeah yeah i get that >.>
but theres no way in hell would I watch a shitty quality SC2 stream, its reall really hard to make out whats going on at all.
On October 02 2012 20:13 darkest44 wrote: Man I wish OGN/Kespa would get a clue and realize how bad they are screwing themselves out of viewers with Moletrap/Doa as their only English casters. You know there's a problem when GSL's Code A round of 48 has 10x more pages of discussion then the round of 8 of your tournament..
they don't make money from foreign audience.. it's already a pretty big deal to have english speaking casters they're wasting money on this you know ?
Are you sure they aren't trying to target the foreign audience from now on ? btw, this kind of bs won't help selling season passes on twitch.
On October 02 2012 20:20 Sajiki wrote: okay.. auction stream lags every 2 seconds for around 10. vlc tells me bad URL, cant open. twitch stream is "offline".
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
oh well i never spent a single penny to watch starcraft in over 12 years i think people shouldn't have to spend money on that but that's just my own opinion
lol indeed, but you know some people want english casting and a HD stream not one or the other.
so they are willing to pay for it.
yeah yeah i get that >.>
but theres no way in hell would I watch a shitty quality SC2 stream, its reall really hard to make out whats going on at all.
i actually watch gom only when dan and nick are casting and i don't even watch the games i just listen to their madness
On October 02 2012 20:09 Doubting wrote: this terrible tournament is starting to get me mad :/
this terrible tournament spawned esports
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
oh well i never spent a single penny to watch starcraft in over 12 years i think people shouldn't have to spend money on that but that's just my own opinion
lol indeed, but you know some people want english casting and a HD stream not one or the other.
so they are willing to pay for it.
yeah yeah i get that >.>
but theres no way in hell would I watch a shitty quality SC2 stream, its reall really hard to make out whats going on at all.
i actually watch gom only when dan and nick are casting and i don't even watch the games i just listen to their madness
On October 02 2012 20:24 wo1fwood wrote: Set 3, Map Daybreak
Flying spawns top, MC bottom, Flying is already 1 gate double gas, MC is now adding his second gas, after core.
MC adds a proxy robo (for wp) and +3 gates. Flying adds +3 gates. Somehow Flying smells it.
And defends the push easily
Meanwhile Flying has 2 proxy pylons in MC's base and with a zealot warpin tries to push, but MC ff is spot on. A Flying zealot now takes out the pylon and proxy robo of MC.
so they've had plenty of time to get it right and we shouldnt expect these kind of amateur errors?
they are new to this whole streaming thing. for their main audience they use their own tv station so they have not that much experience yet. give them a bit time.
That isn't an excuse for those who paid their flagrant ripoff season pass.
oh well i never spent a single penny to watch starcraft in over 12 years i think people shouldn't have to spend money on that but that's just my own opinion
lol indeed, but you know some people want english casting and a HD stream not one or the other.
so they are willing to pay for it.
yeah yeah i get that >.>
but theres no way in hell would I watch a shitty quality SC2 stream, its reall really hard to make out whats going on at all.
i actually watch gom only when dan and nick are casting and i don't even watch the games i just listen to their madness
edit : wtf you have 21k posts ?
how did you not expect that seeing that I'm a BC.
i don't actually watch icons but rekrul's cuz its awesome
On October 02 2012 20:24 wo1fwood wrote: Set 3, Map Daybreak
Flying spawns top, MC bottom, Flying is already 1 gate double gas, MC is now adding his second gas, after core.
MC adds a proxy robo (for wp) and +3 gates. Flying adds +3 gates. Somehow Flying smells it.
And defends the push easily
Meanwhile Flying has 2 proxy pylons in MC's base and with a zealot warpin tries to push, but MC ff is spot on. A Flying zealot now takes out the pylon and proxy robo of MC.
Flying is expanding, while sitting outside MC's base. MC adds robo...again, and a robo bay.
On October 02 2012 20:24 wo1fwood wrote: Set 3, Map Daybreak
Flying spawns top, MC bottom, Flying is already 1 gate double gas, MC is now adding his second gas, after core.
MC adds a proxy robo (for wp) and +3 gates. Flying adds +3 gates. Somehow Flying smells it.
And defends the push easily
Meanwhile Flying has 2 proxy pylons in MC's base and with a zealot warpin tries to push, but MC ff is spot on. A Flying zealot now takes out the pylon and proxy robo of MC.
Flying is expanding, while sitting outside MC's base. MC adds robo...again, and a robo bay.
MC now pushing with one colossus into Flyings Nat, and MC pushes far enough to snipe the Nexus. Flying GG's
It's like Flying has some kind of Jedi mind trick to make MC's phoenix turn around before they get to that base. "This is not the nexus you're looking for".
Hahaha flying, just how do you get to this level of play and then lack the basic unit control to not stack all your collossi even with defender advantage and get half your zealots and all your archons stuck. Just embarassing play all around.
On October 02 2012 21:04 Nyovne wrote: Hahaha flying, just how do you get to this level of play and then lack the basic unit control to not stack all your collossi even with defender advantage and get half your zealots and all your archons stuck. Just embarassing play all around.
Oh thats what happened there I just saw massive pixels, a lot of frame lags and suddenly a gg.
Still happy to see MC advance, this means we'll have kespa vs esf/gom finals for sure :D
he scouted the whole map lol, except this spot, can't wait for the interview. But damn flying owned himself by retreating and giving MC such an excellent position, with his zealots out of position.
On October 02 2012 21:04 Nyovne wrote: Hahaha flying, just how do you get to this level of play and then lack the basic unit control to not stack all your collossi even with defender advantage and get half your zealots and all your archons stuck. Just embarassing play all around.
considering he lost a game vs zerg who constipated half of his food, fitting :D
On October 02 2012 21:04 Nyovne wrote: Hahaha flying, just how do you get to this level of play and then lack the basic unit control to not stack all your collossi even with defender advantage and get half your zealots and all your archons stuck. Just embarassing play all around.
considering he lost a game vs zerg who constipated half of his food, fitting :D
this ^^
Could not kill the Dong with 70 supply and his 4 bases running in BW, could not kill MC with +1 hidden base mining whole game, typical Flying.
Either way this series was a pretty standard PvP. Not very fun but watchable in my opinion. Still the worst matchup with PvZ (except when the match is no stomp here, specially when By.Sun plays).
On October 02 2012 21:04 Nyovne wrote: Hahaha flying, just how do you get to this level of play and then lack the basic unit control to not stack all your collossi even with defender advantage and get half your zealots and all your archons stuck. Just embarassing play all around.
considering he lost a game vs zerg who constipated half of his food, fitting :D
But he gaves us one of the most entertaining games ever...
Wasn`t even MC trolling about his weight? Didn`t he just say during an interview that he is so good at eating that he can`t lose weight? He was quite funny about it.
MC's been tearing it up, not surprised in the least bit since he's 9-3 against the elephants in the MvP invitational. God I hope he gets through to the finals :D
Why are people praising MC for these games so much? His play was extremely mediocre all-around, flying just managed to botch advantageous positions every time... Whether it's due to lack of experience in SC2, nerves, or general badness, he was in a winning position both in g3 and g4, and MC didn't do anything to 'bring it back' - flying just rolled over and handed over the wins to him.
On October 03 2012 01:27 Sethronu wrote: Why are people praising MC for these games so much? His play was extremely mediocre all-around, flying just managed to botch advantageous positions every time... Whether it's due to lack of experience in SC2, nerves, or general badness, he was in a winning position both in g3 and g4, and MC didn't do anything to 'bring it back' - flying just rolled over and handed over the wins to him.
Maybe game 3, but not game 4 necessarily - MC played better than mediocre; it's just that the match-up is so bad.
On October 03 2012 01:27 Sethronu wrote: Why are people praising MC for these games so much? His play was extremely mediocre all-around, flying just managed to botch advantageous positions every time... Whether it's due to lack of experience in SC2, nerves, or general badness, he was in a winning position both in g3 and g4, and MC didn't do anything to 'bring it back' - flying just rolled over and handed over the wins to him.
You do realize you can pretty much always point out the flaws of the loser instead of the good plays by the winner in any game of Starcraft, right? Senseless negativity. The person who makes less mistakes wins. Just because Flying managed to have the better build orders in some of the games, cannon rushed, and proxied/hid stuff around the map does not mean that he did anything to deserve a real victory, whereas MC made the correct decisions, engagements, micro, and played generally well to capitalize on anything his opponent did wrong.
On October 02 2012 23:58 letian wrote: the thread about SC2 1/8 OSL, 18 pages long, mostly about how fat or overweight MC is, jesus tl, what have you become.
Glad to see that TL finally become a real forum like any other internet forum.
On October 03 2012 01:45 Sandermatt wrote: 8 KeSPA players in Ro16 and 8 non-KeSPA players. 4 KeSPA players in Ro8 and 4 non-KeSPA players. 2 KeSPA players in Ro4 and 2 non-KeSPA players.
The 50/50 ratio goes on and will also make it to the finals.
And you forget to point out that 4 of those 8 original were guaranteed a spot.
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