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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
dafunk
Profile Joined January 2009
France521 Posts
August 03 2012 14:53 GMT
#1341
What? Demuslim has always been a subpar player.
What is incontrol talking about ?

User was warned for this post
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#1342
2gd + incontrol fucking delivers
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#1343
On August 03 2012 23:53 dafunk wrote:
What? Demuslim has always been a subpar player.
What is incontrol talking about ?


he was good in the beta :D
Zest fanboy.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#1344
Nightend #1 immortal control
hallx
Profile Joined November 2010
Pakistan163 Posts
August 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#1345
On August 03 2012 23:51 PeggyHill wrote:
Hero confusing the foreigner scene with the European scene :D


foreigner scene == european scene

well mostly
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 14:54:52
August 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#1346
On August 03 2012 23:51 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:50 mememolly wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:48 hugedong wrote:
Who told Geoff to wear that god damn shirt?


his sponsors, he's like a walking billboard nowadays

I'm still ticked off that he still has the fucking can on the desk even though he is not drinking from it..


I went out and bought some redbulls, that'll show um

but yeah, the can is pretty shameless
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
August 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#1347
haha that destiny
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#1348
On August 03 2012 23:42 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:38 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:24 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:20 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:13 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:03 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:57 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Is wrong with DeMu's TvP It's like he has no clue what he is doing in that match up, he could of a moved that colli small army with what he had...and ran away. Then in the main engangement he balls'd it up wtf. NA must be so bad >.<


Seriously? wtf do people start this NA/EU shit every chance they get. Demuslim has even admitted recently he's felt good about his TvP, maybe he just made a mistake?

God damn, some of the people on this forum are so whiny, it's kind of obnoxious.

So happy for Suppy though, hope he can close it out


Or maybe yo, he lost 3-0 to Bisu after saying his TvP is fine on NA...And he is happy with it from ladder results, gets WTF pwnd by Bischu who i haven't even heard from until he got asked to fill in for someone and beats him 3-0. Then he gets beat by the same strat twice in a row..Mass stalker colli vs bio and viking? wut. He was so ahead in game 4 as well he could of a moved him and thought he was behind or something idk what is wrong with him.


He also later beat Bischu, and Welmu as well. He lost to Nightend, who has been playing really well the entire tournament. Seriously, maybe he just didn't play well those games ? No, it has to be LOL NA SUCKS. Sick of this stupid argument popping up everywhere.


Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up.


There is no use argueing. DemusliM is an excellent player but Terran vs Protoss is not just about the match up, but also about the style used in particular. Why do you think Korean Terrans have struggled with EU Protoss in the past and have beaten every Korean Protoss without the games being close?

EU Protoss were a lot more defensive, Colossi style while Koreans were using a gateway style. DemusliM lost to NightEnD who is very unique from his style and has beaten PuMa 3-0 before. DemusliM losing to him doesn't make him bad or NA bad. The discussion is stupid and the player bashing nothing but unneccessary.


Did you watch the games Naruto ffs. NightEnd does the same style every single game, he beat Puma with the same style. Blink Stalker + Colli mix, how DeMu is not able to beat that after seeing the games vs Puma i have no idea! He was sick TvP when he was in EU and before he began his long stint in NA. He was a beast, so many sick builds he did. Then he turns up and 3-0'd vs Bischu who like i said has been no where. NightEnd is good no question, but when u have 3 games of him vs ur team mate to study him from and u lose the same way its stupid. Plus it's not like he got beat hard, he got beat by himself. He could of won the 4th game quite easily. Was ahead by 20 supply and had a 10 supply army lead and some reason thought he was behind...It's crazy.


And that justifies you bashing on him and whole NA? Also if you think a player thats unknown can't be good... thats just so wrong. I could name at least 10 EU grandmasters with no name to them that are able to beat top competitors in tournaments and also have done so in qualifiers etc.
DemusliM had an off series and not his bad day, that happens. Ofcourse everyone knows NightEnD and how he playes, but so do Protoss about Naama. Its just very hard to play against if you don't have a lot of experience against it. There is just NO reason to bash on him for losing. Its not like he didn't try. He will kick himself for losing more than enough, no need to rub it in his face.


Bashing? It was a statement, i love DeMu, he is the best we have from England. But when you see him make silly mistakes vs Taeja, and then bring them over into the game vs NightEnd when at multiple times he had huge chances to go do damage, especially in game 4 which he lost. Thats not the DeMu im used to seeing, the one who plays so good in every game, 3 CC vs Zergs and tries to out macro them. To that in TvP is qute unreal.
I could name lots of EU GMs too that are good, i know about Recco powning things up before he made his burst into the scene, but he hasn't yet (apart from UK WCS) landed well into offline tournaments yet, but he is only 16 and isn't used to all the spotlight as of yet. But that point is irrelevant, im sure lots of people knew Suppy could do what he has from the NA ladder offline tourneys.
Naama is figured out vs the best, look what MC did to Naama....Thats how you play vs him.
Criticism and Bashing are two different things, you should know that. Im sure you've had criticism in your gaming life and taken on the chin and learnt from it.
He had an off tournament IMO which is unlike him as he turns up and plays amazing in all, but i hope he improves in IEM he qualified for because he is so better than what we saw today and yesterday. He can give way more


Since you are not in contact with DemusliM you might be right writing it down. I did live with DemusliM for half a year or so. Once I lost the EPS (ESL Pro Series) qualifier in the finals 0-3 when I didn't drop a single map before. I was crushed and DemusliM told me that we can go over these games when some time has passed. Its just wrong to call out mistakes of a player right after the games. He will not be able to get something good out of it, because you are just sad/frustrated. I'm sure DemusliM knows he didn't play a 100% tournament and he will analyze and realize his mistakes, but I feel everything you/others write right now can be seen as bashing.

No offence to you, but as a player if I would read it, that would come to mind.


I know you lived with DeMu
Obviously i didn't know about your defeat and the way he told you to get over it. Thats the way you handled it, and the way he approached you after it.
DeMu went in with a plan but it doesn't seem like he followed it through at all and re thought his process and tactics for each game. DeMu is aggressive but to see him turn around is new to me. He didn't play his best i get that but i think it's down to external reasons rather than just himself, i wish he would go to Korea because i thought he wanted too and i want to see DeMu being the best in the world and winning tournaments again (HSCs etc)
I just PERSONALLY think there is a peak to what u can achieve being on one ladder all the time playing probably the same people, i think change in evniroment is good.

You might read it like that, and DeMuslim might too, but the way it's wrote is not to hurt someones feeling it's to help spuur them up, if i read something like that about me, i'd be taking it with a pinch of salt anyway as it's wrote on the internet for start, and then reading it you would probably understand some parts due to not playing your best. Then if you re read it after studying the replays you would probably agree...

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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
August 03 2012 14:55 GMT
#1349
On August 03 2012 23:51 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:50 mememolly wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:48 hugedong wrote:
Who told Geoff to wear that god damn shirt?


his sponsors, he's like a walking billboard nowadays

I'm still ticked off that he still has the fucking can on the desk even though he is not drinking from it..


Why hate on Geoff so much? He's bringing great commentary and he's giving his sponsors/teams some great exposure. Ever wonder why EG is so successful and has so many haters? Prolly because they know how to market their name, and so do their players.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 14:55:59
August 03 2012 14:55 GMT
#1350
On August 03 2012 23:54 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:53 dafunk wrote:
What? Demuslim has always been a subpar player.
What is incontrol talking about ?


he was good in the beta :D

And he beat Nestea once!
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 03 2012 14:56 GMT
#1351
On August 03 2012 23:51 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:50 mememolly wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:48 hugedong wrote:
Who told Geoff to wear that god damn shirt?


his sponsors, he's like a walking billboard nowadays

I'm still ticked off that he still has the fucking can on the desk even though he is not drinking from it..


Well he doesn't pay his bills with his warp-prism micro ...
Terran & Potato Salad.
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
August 03 2012 14:56 GMT
#1352
One thing this tournament does very well even compared to the big names and I think it's due to 2GD influence : teams and sponsors representation.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 03 2012 14:56 GMT
#1353
On August 03 2012 23:55 Yagami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:54 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:53 dafunk wrote:
What? Demuslim has always been a subpar player.
What is incontrol talking about ?


he was good in the beta :D

And he beat Nestea once!


So did GoOdy!
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
intel21
Profile Joined March 2011
67 Posts
August 03 2012 14:56 GMT
#1354
Anyone think the group stage matches should be a bo3 rather than a bo5 to avoid fatigue problems ? Kinda unfair that Naama gets like an hr to chill before facing Hero while, Hero has to jump right back in.
oz04
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
August 03 2012 14:56 GMT
#1355
Hero had 18 gateways FYI.
I bring terror.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:57 GMT
#1356
incontrol missing a lot of gateways hahaha
Amoment
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany175 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 14:57:32
August 03 2012 14:57 GMT
#1357
I accept a warning and I am sour bout posting this, but there is something I found in the twitch tv chat:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/desrow.jpg/
hahaha
6000 MMR/competitive Dota 2 player. SC2 LOTV Grandmaster - WoL Top 75 EU, 150 World. YouTuber.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 03 2012 14:57 GMT
#1358
On August 03 2012 23:55 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:51 SilverStar wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:50 mememolly wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:48 hugedong wrote:
Who told Geoff to wear that god damn shirt?


his sponsors, he's like a walking billboard nowadays

I'm still ticked off that he still has the fucking can on the desk even though he is not drinking from it..


Why hate on Geoff so much? He's bringing great commentary and he's giving his sponsors/teams some great exposure. Ever wonder why EG is so successful and has so many haters? Prolly because they know how to market their name, and so do their players.

huh? I'm not hating on him. He has monsters logo on his t-shirt. There is no need to put a can on the desk just to push it in your face even more.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
August 03 2012 14:58 GMT
#1359
Taeja is going to win this so easily lol
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 03 2012 14:58 GMT
#1360
That was so stupid by MaNa ;<, it was the only thing that could have lost him the game ;s.
It appears I have been chosen.
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