On July 27 2012 08:51 Noocta wrote: Maru has all the cards to win this game :
- Ahead in upgrades - 3 bases established - Playing against late hive
... But then he don't siehe his tanks.
He also pushed like 15 seconds before +3 bio armor and +2 mech attack were done.
Would not have make a huge difference to be honest when you're flanked by banelings with tanks unsieged.
I'm a bit sad too see how unforgiving TvZ can be. Maru was ahead in everything before that fight. :/
SC2 games at the highest level could always be lost in a moment of indecision or lack of attention.
Protoss moves his army, and his Collosus get separated and picked off due to pathing. Usually game over. Or they miss forcefields :p
Zerg does great, all game, then clumps his BL-Corruptor deathball and gets toileted. Or moves a dozen infestors past some blink stalkers and loses them all. Game over.
Terran caught unsieged, or gets entire bio force fungalled? Game over
On July 27 2012 08:51 Noocta wrote: Maru has all the cards to win this game :
- Ahead in upgrades - 3 bases established - Playing against late hive
... But then he don't siehe his tanks.
but you forget curious has the zvt card! hahaha :p
More that Maru played the "Unsiege all your tanks when the banelings are rolling towards you after you decided to push out 15 seconds before your upgrades are done" card.
Doesn't quite roll off the tongue as much as a good old fashioned balance whine though.
On July 27 2012 08:57 TeeTS wrote: if zerg gets a whole surround, it doesn't matter if tanks are sieged. When your marines have nowhere to run, everything just dies! Those midgame push outs from terran only work if zerg messes up the engagement. That's why mutas are coming back so hard in this matchup, because Zerg don't worry anymore about big pushes, they worry about drops....
Well, he would have lose the fight even if sieged, but not that hard. With how it went, Maru didn't just lsoe a fight, he lost the game.
On July 27 2012 08:58 ProxyKnoxy wrote: I never see terrans win against more than like 8 ultras or so. Tanks seems pretty useless in that scenario
if you go a mech build with 3/3 upgrades and use them unsieged vs ultras they do fairly well, but not sieged up with the ultras spread out and no armor upgrades.
On July 27 2012 08:58 -FoX wrote: Curious looking in the greatest shape of his career lately. Think he also mentioned something about how he was performing much better in an interview after his GSL match.
I think Curious' looked scarier when he won Code A flawlessly. Going into GSL November, a lot of people expected him to become the next big Zerg star with Nestea and DRG. Didn't happen, and the next big Zerg star turned out to be Leenock.
On July 27 2012 08:57 TeeTS wrote: if zerg gets a whole surround, it doesn't matter if tanks are sieged. When your marines have nowhere to run, everything just dies! Those midgame push outs from terran only work if zerg messes up the engagement. That's why mutas are coming back so hard in this matchup, because Zerg don't worry anymore about big pushes, they worry about drops....
That's not really true, if those tanks were sieged and he waited for +2 he would have crushed half of that flank in one shot.
On July 27 2012 09:01 Shellshock1122 wrote: idk why MKP still picks this map. He doesnt seem to win vZ on it that much anymore but I guess antiga is already gone
He must be really comfortable with his Bio/Mech build he does always on Entombed.
I remember the last time I watched MKP and Curious play. MKP demolished Curious in the GSTL. But that was the day that MKP was kissed by the Starcraft 2 Gods. Curious has been playing at a pretty high level lately and I think he might be able to take him out.
prime's biggest problem is by far zergs; they only have one out against them in creator, and when creator falls prime falls apart. there are very very few teamleagues prime loses when zergs don't get a killstreak against them. byun, mkp and maru have excellent tvt and tvp, but meh tvz of late, and they're the core of the team.
On July 27 2012 09:02 Sumahi wrote: I remember the last time I watched MKP and Curious play. MKP demolished Curious in the GSTL. But that was the day that MKP was kissed by the Starcraft 2 Gods. Curious has been playing at a pretty high level lately and I think he might be able to take him out.
They played a really close game in the KSL finals online not long after that on Metropolis that Marineking won in that Startale all kill but the Russian caster was lagging a shitload so some people feel like it kind of messed up one of Curious's engagements where he started moving it and there was a big lag spike with the countdown screen and then Marineking crushed him. I'm worried about Curious here because he is really good when he is on his game