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On July 13 2012 08:58 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 08:58 sage_francis wrote:On July 13 2012 08:48 Toadvine wrote:On July 13 2012 08:44 sage_francis wrote:On July 13 2012 08:30 Toadvine wrote:On July 13 2012 08:25 sage_francis wrote:On July 13 2012 08:20 FuzzyJAM wrote:
6pool is actually pretty legitimate now that CC first is so common. I wouldnt say legitimate but abusive play. Works only because of actual metagame, requires 0 skill, provides 0 entertainment. All we want in a RTS game. It's just plain ol' cheese, nothing especially abusive about it. Beats greedy builds, loses to safe ones. Imo, roach/bling busts are a lot worse in this respect, because they transition easily after doing a modicum of damage and straight-up kill a whole bunch of openings. Its abusive cause terran MUST play greedy vs zerg nowadays. How cant u understand that? i guess u never played or watch a recent TvZ. Violet bust is very strong (op?) but not abusive in that regard cause not dependant of metagame. It can works even if terran open safe 13 gaz. I really think your understanding of the term "abusive" differs from that of most SC2 players. Yeah, this word is so difficult to understand that i may have been lost,in the depht of meaning. Hopefully u will enlight me with a good traduction? Because im too dumb to find it on the internet. "Abusive", adj.: any successful strategy that the word's user disapproves of.
2. adj.: specifically, used to describe a strategy which Evil Genius's IdrA has lost to.
But honestly, the word abusive is used too much and has lost any sort of meaning. I don't think that abusive is the right term to describe 6 pooling in the current ZvT metagame to counter the majority of Terrans going CC first.
+ Show Spoiler [GSL Spoilers!!!] +What Byun did to NesTea in Game 1 of their most recent Code S series, that was abusive. I love Byun and he's certainly not the only one at fault (GOM should have done a better job to prevent that), but abusing the fact that there was no neutral supply depot is abusive play. That's not how the game is supposed to function.
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On July 13 2012 09:06 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 08:52 Fionn wrote:
Anyways, this is karma payback for the time Keen had to hope Oz beat YuGiOh in the Up and Down matches, but Oz - who already qualified - fucked around with a random strategy and knocked Keen into Code A for a whole season.
Finally worked out for him this time. not exactly even payback lol. GSL is a tad more prestigious, not that i dont love tsl xD
If GSL is more prestigious, then it's even worse that Oz fooled around and did not take his games as seriously after he had already qualified. I'm just sad that Polt did not manage to qualify 
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Please update the bracket with Keen vs Life's result.
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On July 13 2012 09:15 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 09:06 sc14s wrote:On July 13 2012 08:52 Fionn wrote:
Anyways, this is karma payback for the time Keen had to hope Oz beat YuGiOh in the Up and Down matches, but Oz - who already qualified - fucked around with a random strategy and knocked Keen into Code A for a whole season.
Finally worked out for him this time. not exactly even payback lol. GSL is a tad more prestigious, not that i dont love tsl xD If GSL is more prestigious, then it's even worse that Oz fooled around and did not take his games as seriously after he had already qualified. I'm just sad that Polt did not manage to qualify
GSL is deff most prestigious, but there's a special quality about TSL, it only happens once a year I believe, and literally the whole community will be watching.
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pretty intense TSL qualifiers
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YES KEEN!!!! I don't care how you got in, TSL4 just got 1000x more epic for me! :D
And Seed:
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where is the keen vs life replay? is it missing from the zip file?
+ Show Spoiler +why did the zergs all in ? as if they didn't want to play? esp the polt vs zerg games.
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On July 13 2012 12:55 terranallin wrote:where is the keen vs life replay? is it missing from the zip file? + Show Spoiler +why did the zergs all in ? as if they didn't want to play? esp the polt vs zerg games.
Life was already guaranteed a spot in the tourney based upon being #1 in the TSL points, so that was why he chose to all-in. Can't speak for the other Z players.
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TSL 4 seems to be Korea-Europe showoff tournament.
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On July 13 2012 17:53 Spidinko wrote:
TSL 4 seems to be Korea-Europe showoff tournament.
dont worry. major could win some games :D
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So sad Polt didn't make it, he always makes for awesome games
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Great job Keen, so happy he made it
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Grats to Keen, however seeing that Life only needed ZvP and ZvZ to advance to the finals, while Keen had to play mostly TvZ before, it doesn't really surprise me that he eventually won. Nevertheless great performance!
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On July 13 2012 17:53 Spidinko wrote:
TSL 4 seems to be Korea-Europe showoff tournament.
Quality wise this could be an issue considering the Kr to EU lag issues. Are there any information how this will be handled? Switching servers between games or something?
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Where can you get the replays for the ro8 and onwards? OP only has ro16
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On July 13 2012 08:55 A Wet Shamwow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 08:53 canikizu wrote:
People make it like Life just committed a sin or something. He was in the position where he can choose who can go through, if he chooses Keen, that's fine, Seed has no saying whatsoever in this. This game is not like Nestea vs Naniwa where 2 players can't change any results.
And FFS, the kid is 15 years old, if he has classes tomorrow and doesn't want to drag the games out, are we adults gonna flame him too? Life doesn't care about sin because he is already in ze nexT life.
Life is busy writing his Star's Tale.
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On July 13 2012 19:26 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 17:53 Spidinko wrote:
TSL 4 seems to be Korea-Europe showoff tournament. Quality wise this could be an issue considering the Kr to EU lag issues. Are there any information how this will be handled? Switching servers between games or something?
Yeha im curious about that too ...
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I guarantee you that Keen was listening to this song while playing in the finals:
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