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[TSL4] Qualifier 15 - KR #5 - Page 34

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Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
July 12 2012 23:43 GMT
#661
On July 13 2012 08:42 mewbert wrote:
I lost a lot of respect for life, or was therea legitamate reason for him doing this? I know was already in but that doesnt mean you throw the games.


Life 6 pools and does weird strategies all the time, nothing new really.
HAFFl
Profile Joined June 2012
Iceland19 Posts
July 12 2012 23:43 GMT
#662
When will the bracket be revealed?
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
July 12 2012 23:43 GMT
#663
On July 13 2012 08:40 Pinnacle55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:37 blade55555 wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:35 Chargelot wrote:
That series was a joke. Life blatantly threw away the series Naniwa style.


it's not that he threw it. He didn't give a fuck because he's in the tournament no matter what. It's also really late in korea which people seem to forget and he probably just wanted to go to bed after playing so many bo3's and again he knew he qualified so he probably didn't care if he lost in the finals.


I'm pretty sure the 6pools were part of Life's game plan. There IS incentive for him to carrying on playing, you can an extra $50 more. I'm sure that doesn't seem like a lot to you folks, but I'd definitely play for more money.

And didn't you see Life's Code A games against VINES? He Nydus Worm rushed Game 1 and 6pooled Game 2. This is obviously something Life incorporates into his style.

Considering the time is now after eight in the morning in Korea and Life probably hasn't slept + just qualified for a big tournament, I guess that 50 dollars don't mean that much when there are bigger prizes at stake.
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shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
July 12 2012 23:44 GMT
#664
On July 13 2012 08:37 Jarree wrote:
Nice matchfixing well done.



Get out with that garbage. These accusations can ruin someones career.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
July 12 2012 23:44 GMT
#665
On July 13 2012 08:30 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:25 sage_francis wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:20 FuzzyJAM wrote:
6pool is actually pretty legitimate now that CC first is so common.


I wouldnt say legitimate but abusive play. Works only because of actual metagame, requires 0 skill, provides 0 entertainment.
All we want in a RTS game.


It's just plain ol' cheese, nothing especially abusive about it. Beats greedy builds, loses to safe ones. Imo, roach/bling busts are a lot worse in this respect, because they transition easily after doing a modicum of damage and straight-up kill a whole bunch of openings.


Its abusive cause terran MUST play greedy vs zerg nowadays. How cant u understand that? i guess u never played or watch a recent TvZ.
Violet bust is very strong (op?) but not abusive in that regard cause not dependant of metagame. It can works even if terran open safe 13 gaz.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 12 2012 23:44 GMT
#666
On July 13 2012 08:42 Waxangel wrote:
LOL

If you've seen Life play in GSTL or GSL... it's not really a surprise. He's a bit of a weirdo who doesn't really have much regard for 'normal' game plans.

Hyper fast nydus + 6 pool to win the fastest ZvP series in GSL history, not three days ago.

Sick IdrA GG'ing out against Puzzle the instant he lost six burrowed infestors.

A bit of a character :O


When will we get a Keen interview?
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 12 2012 23:44 GMT
#667
On July 13 2012 08:44 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:37 Jarree wrote:
Nice matchfixing well done.



Get out with that garbage. These accusations can ruin someones career.

Did you actually watch the games? I won't say they were literally fixed, but he obviously tried his hardest to lose, short of sending 6 probes to the enemy and holding position.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 23:45:39
July 12 2012 23:45 GMT
#668
Seed misses TSL4 by the sKeen of his teeth; "better luck Ze Next time"
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
July 12 2012 23:45 GMT
#669
ro8+ replays v.v?
keen fiteing~~
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 12 2012 23:45 GMT
#670
On July 13 2012 08:44 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:42 Waxangel wrote:
LOL

If you've seen Life play in GSTL or GSL... it's not really a surprise. He's a bit of a weirdo who doesn't really have much regard for 'normal' game plans.

Hyper fast nydus + 6 pool to win the fastest ZvP series in GSL history, not three days ago.

Sick IdrA GG'ing out against Puzzle the instant he lost six burrowed infestors.

A bit of a character :O


When will we get a Keen interview?

We better get a Keen interview!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
July 12 2012 23:45 GMT
#671
On July 13 2012 08:43 Kieofire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:42 mewbert wrote:
I lost a lot of respect for life, or was therea legitamate reason for him doing this? I know was already in but that doesnt mean you throw the games.


Life 6 pools and does weird strategies all the time, nothing new really.


Versus VINES in the GSL, he did a nydus all in and a 6pool. Plus Keen lost versus one of his 6pools. This is typical Life style.
There is no Karont3 icon???? what is this madness?
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 12 2012 23:45 GMT
#672
On July 13 2012 08:45 JWD wrote:
Seed misses TSL4 by the sKeen of his teeth; "better luck Ze Next time"

Jesus christ how many of these have you got?!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Urasim
Profile Joined March 2012
United States83 Posts
July 12 2012 23:45 GMT
#673
I like how the Korean qualifier finals was really, really bad, but the EU-NA qualifier finals was insanely good. Fraer and Major both played an amazing best of five, while Keen and Life played the absolute worst best of five I have ever seen. Kinda wish players would not play like that even if there is nothing on the line. Naniwa got a lot of shit for doing something similar in the GSL. You would think players would avoid that after they saw Naniwa's punishment.
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
July 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#674
On July 13 2012 08:27 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:25 sage_francis wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:20 FuzzyJAM wrote:
6pool is actually pretty legitimate now that CC first is so common.


I wouldnt say legitimate but abusive play. Works only because of actual metagame, requires 0 skill, provides 0 entertainment.
All we want in a RTS game.

Huh? I was entertained


Good for you bro, now u can go back playing LoL. See you.


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A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#675
On July 13 2012 08:44 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:44 shockaslim wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:37 Jarree wrote:
Nice matchfixing well done.



Get out with that garbage. These accusations can ruin someones career.

Did you actually watch the games? I won't say they were literally fixed, but he obviously tried his hardest to lose, short of sending 6 probes to the enemy and holding position.

He won a game with it No? He also has been known to six pool before also, in situations that DO matter for him. Like he said match fixing is not something you just throw around.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 23:47:31
July 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#676
On July 13 2012 08:45 JWD wrote:
Seed misses TSL4 by the sKeen of his teeth; "better luck Ze Next time"

ok now, we get it.

song : http://vimeo.com/18726036
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
July 12 2012 23:47 GMT
#677
You know who lost a qualifier to double 6 pool? MKP :D
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 12 2012 23:48 GMT
#678
On July 13 2012 08:44 sage_francis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:30 Toadvine wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:25 sage_francis wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:20 FuzzyJAM wrote:
6pool is actually pretty legitimate now that CC first is so common.


I wouldnt say legitimate but abusive play. Works only because of actual metagame, requires 0 skill, provides 0 entertainment.
All we want in a RTS game.


It's just plain ol' cheese, nothing especially abusive about it. Beats greedy builds, loses to safe ones. Imo, roach/bling busts are a lot worse in this respect, because they transition easily after doing a modicum of damage and straight-up kill a whole bunch of openings.


Its abusive cause terran MUST play greedy vs zerg nowadays. How cant u understand that? i guess u never played or watch a recent TvZ.
Violet bust is very strong (op?) but not abusive in that regard cause not dependant of metagame. It can works even if terran open safe 13 gaz.


I really think your understanding of the term "abusive" differs from that of most SC2 players.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Waywatcher
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands205 Posts
July 12 2012 23:49 GMT
#679
On July 13 2012 08:45 Broodlings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:43 Kieofire wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:42 mewbert wrote:
I lost a lot of respect for life, or was therea legitamate reason for him doing this? I know was already in but that doesnt mean you throw the games.


Life 6 pools and does weird strategies all the time, nothing new really.


Versus VINES in the GSL, he did a nydus all in and a 6pool. Plus Keen lost versus one of his 6pools. This is typical Life style.


The difference is he didnt try at all, with the baneling bust he just detonated on the bunkers and typed. And you dont 6pool twice in 1 series. You know you will lose with the second 6 pool.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 23:52:01
July 12 2012 23:51 GMT
#680
On July 13 2012 08:49 Waywatcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:45 Broodlings wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:43 Kieofire wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:42 mewbert wrote:
I lost a lot of respect for life, or was therea legitamate reason for him doing this? I know was already in but that doesnt mean you throw the games.


Life 6 pools and does weird strategies all the time, nothing new really.


Versus VINES in the GSL, he did a nydus all in and a 6pool. Plus Keen lost versus one of his 6pools. This is typical Life style.

And you dont 6pool twice in 1 series. You know you will lose with the second 6 pool.


Wrong

do you really need to be given a list of famous losses in history to multiple same-cheeses?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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