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[TSL4] Qualifier 14 - EU/NA #10 - Page 29

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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 20:08:12
July 11 2012 20:06 GMT
#561
On July 12 2012 05:02 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:00 A.Delicious.Yoghurt wrote:
So...Major loses the first game. He has to win 2 more according to Vibe stream :S

Major offered to forfeit before the game because he apparently likes Vibe ...


That's... kind of what the whole Coca and Byun situation was... Hope Vibe didn't accept I guess... Still, that's sketchy stuff.

Edit: Humorous context provided on last page, seems like it was just in jest (hopefully).
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frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 20:08:51
July 11 2012 20:08 GMT
#562
On July 12 2012 04:55 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 04:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
So for hasu to stay in the finals must have major or select and cannot have fraer or an illusion/violet vs vibe (as the loser will not qualify)

EDIT: It can be fraer/major or fraer/select as long as fraer wins


Quite confusing. I think it's like this:
Fraer 2nd?
- No => Hasu in
- Yes => Go on

Select or Major 1st?
- No => Hasu out
- Yes => Hasu in

EDIT: See post above this one.


What about Lucifron? He had 54 going in to this, so a second place will give him 3 more points than Hasu. If he loses to Violet Fraer or Illusion wouldn't that also know out Hasu?
A.Delicious.Yoghurt
Profile Joined June 2012
127 Posts
July 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#563
On July 12 2012 05:08 frogrubdown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 04:55 SinCitta wrote:
On July 12 2012 04:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
So for hasu to stay in the finals must have major or select and cannot have fraer or an illusion/violet vs vibe (as the loser will not qualify)

EDIT: It can be fraer/major or fraer/select as long as fraer wins


Quite confusing. I think it's like this:
Fraer 2nd?
- No => Hasu in
- Yes => Go on

Select or Major 1st?
- No => Hasu out
- Yes => Hasu in

EDIT: See post above this one.


What about Lucifron? He had 55 going in to this, so a second place will give him 3 more points than Hasu. If he loses to Violet Fraer or Illusion wouldn't that also know out Hasu?


I think Lucifron lost against Major.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#564
Byun vs Coca all over
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
July 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#565
On July 12 2012 05:01 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 04:58 Proseat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
So with some of the leaked info taken into account, the following can currently be said:
  • (T)SeleCT, (P)BabyKnight, (Z)LaLuSh, (T)MajOr, (Z)DarKFoRcE, (P)Bischu, and (Z)JonnyREcco have qualified

  • if (P)Fraer makes the final, he will have qualified as well, pushing (P)HasuObs out of the top 8

  • if (P)Fraer wins the qualifier, (P)HasuObs will stay in the top 8 and qualify

  • if either (T)SeleCT or (T)MajOr wins this last qualifier, then (P)HasuObs and (T)ReaL or (P)Fraer (if in final) will have qualified



Does that mean there's a possibility of a tie (Real and Fraer?) and therefore a tiebreaker?

Nope, Real has 146 points in 9th place. Fraer currently has 103 points.

Fraer will have 122 points if he reaches the semifinals or 162 points if he reaches the final.
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frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
July 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#566
On July 12 2012 05:09 A.Delicious.Yoghurt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:08 frogrubdown wrote:
On July 12 2012 04:55 SinCitta wrote:
On July 12 2012 04:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
So for hasu to stay in the finals must have major or select and cannot have fraer or an illusion/violet vs vibe (as the loser will not qualify)

EDIT: It can be fraer/major or fraer/select as long as fraer wins


Quite confusing. I think it's like this:
Fraer 2nd?
- No => Hasu in
- Yes => Go on

Select or Major 1st?
- No => Hasu out
- Yes => Hasu in

EDIT: See post above this one.


What about Lucifron? He had 55 going in to this, so a second place will give him 3 more points than Hasu. If he loses to Violet Fraer or Illusion wouldn't that also know out Hasu?


I think Lucifron lost against Major.


Ah, looks like there are a few reports of that despite liquipedia and the stream lagging behind. Shame, could have used a few more terrans.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#567
Don't you dare not stream Fraer vs viOlet!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36387 Posts
July 11 2012 20:11 GMT
#568
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over

Higher points in the ranking does lead to easier TSL4 bracket.

Additionally, Major was already guaranteed a spot even before his series with Lucifron, and he won that one 2-1. I don't think we should read too much into inappropriate match fixing jokes unless there's concrete evidence that this happened.
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MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 11 2012 20:13 GMT
#569
On July 12 2012 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over

Higher points in the ranking does lead to easier TSL4 bracket.

Additionally, Major was already guaranteed a spot even before his series with Lucifron, and he won that one 2-1. I don't think we should read too much into inappropriate match fixing jokes unless there's concrete evidence that this happened.


Will there be an embedded stream today or just an external like yesterday?
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#570
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over


It was an inappropriate joke imo. Major was watching his stream and talking in stream chat. He wouldn't broadcast that to hundreds of people if it was serious. Also he was making little faces and stuff, the whole tone of the conversation was sarcastic.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
July 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#571
On July 12 2012 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over

Higher points in the ranking does lead to easier TSL4 bracket.

Additionally, Major was already guaranteed a spot even before his series with Lucifron, and he won that one 2-1. I don't think we should read too much into inappropriate match fixing jokes unless there's concrete evidence that this happened.

True, but we could already sharpen our pitchforks in case he lost
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#572
On July 12 2012 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over

Higher points in the ranking does lead to easier TSL4 bracket.

Additionally, Major was already guaranteed a spot even before his series with Lucifron, and he won that one 2-1. I don't think we should read too much into inappropriate match fixing jokes unless there's concrete evidence that this happened.

Well, it didnt happen. vibe denied it, but it didnt he seem he thought that this was a joke.
Major might not play his A-game now, but unless its extremly obvious nothing you can do about.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 11 2012 20:15 GMT
#573
CoCa vs Byun was problematic because they played out the games, and then CoCa left after all but winning game 2. I don't think anyone would've batted an eyelid if he just forfeited before they started playing. It's kind of impossible to stop players from forfeiting matches, and I find it difficult to believe that TL would DQ Major for wanting to forfeit. For talking to Vibe and trying to make some kind of deal, sure, but no tournament can force someone to play against their wishes. When they try, it just leads to retarded situations, like Naniwa's probe rush.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
July 11 2012 20:15 GMT
#574
"Chris Lee ‏@QuanticIllusion

OHMYGODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD"
apparently he won against select? :D
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
July 11 2012 20:16 GMT
#575
On July 12 2012 05:13 MBH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over

Higher points in the ranking does lead to easier TSL4 bracket.

Additionally, Major was already guaranteed a spot even before his series with Lucifron, and he won that one 2-1. I don't think we should read too much into inappropriate match fixing jokes unless there's concrete evidence that this happened.


Will there be an embedded stream today or just an external like yesterday?


Thanks hotbid, would hate to see Vibe lose his chance to qualify because of a joke. Especially considering how jocular major is anyways.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#576
T.T

Players spoiling everything and most of the important games not being streamed doesn't make the qualifiers very entertaining to follow.
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
July 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#577
Illusion is spoiling so much information on twitter.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#578
On July 12 2012 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over

Higher points in the ranking does lead to easier TSL4 bracket.

Additionally, Major was already guaranteed a spot even before his series with Lucifron, and he won that one 2-1. I don't think we should read too much into inappropriate match fixing jokes unless there's concrete evidence that this happened.

I should be more careful when I try to make jokes. I meant to say by mock-outrage: just as the situation with coca and byun was blown completely out of proportion, so would any kind of accusations of match-fixing on the grounds of internet-banter be making something out of nothing (or something so close to nothing that it isn't worth mentioning).
InMotion
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada110 Posts
July 11 2012 20:20 GMT
#579
On July 12 2012 05:15 Finrod1 wrote:
"Chris Lee ‏@QuanticIllusion

OHMYGODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD"
apparently he won against select? :D


Wouldn't be surprised at all if Select just gave him the win....
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 11 2012 20:21 GMT
#580
On July 12 2012 05:18 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
On July 12 2012 05:09 m0ck wrote:
Byun vs Coca all over

Higher points in the ranking does lead to easier TSL4 bracket.

Additionally, Major was already guaranteed a spot even before his series with Lucifron, and he won that one 2-1. I don't think we should read too much into inappropriate match fixing jokes unless there's concrete evidence that this happened.

I should be more careful when I try to make jokes. I meant to say by mock-outrage: just as the situation with coca and byun was blown completely out of proportion, so would any kind of accusations of match-fixing on the grounds of internet-banter be making something out of nothing (or something so close to nothing that it isn't worth mentioning).


It was maybe blown marginally out of proportion. Code A seed is a pretty big deal and match fixing is part of why Broodwar is in its death throws right now.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
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