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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 02 2012 01:57 GMT
#181
GSl prelims are never streamed, well there was that one time that i remember with khaldor and someone else just doing it for shits and giggles, but they were focusing on a couple of players (TLO)

that said, i would like a stream, but whatever.
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KissMeRed
Profile Joined June 2012
United States96 Posts
July 02 2012 01:59 GMT
#182
On July 02 2012 10:50 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Seriously, I would settle for even a purely audio/radio cast of the games at tihs point...


^This must be easy to do, right? It would be perfect for me since I barely watch matches and only listen to the cast anyway.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
July 02 2012 02:00 GMT
#183
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

Stream ALL THE THINGS.
The last time GOM streamed qualifiers it was really lackluster and most players didn't even agree to have their matches streamed but now all of a sudden it's an outrage that OGN doesn't stream this.

Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


Well, OGN usually streams at least some games from prelims, hence the expectations that there'd be some sort of stream. Also, there's a lot of hype because it's OSL, and it's their "first appearance" in the SC2 scene/big debut...so it's a really lackluster debut when you start off with an opaque qualifier where nobody has an idea what's going on and can't watch the goings down.

Also, have you seen the player pool? This thing is HUGE. It is pretty much every code A/code S player + foreigner player in Korea. Anywhere else you'd have an outrage with that level of competition and no coverage.
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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
July 02 2012 02:00 GMT
#184
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

Stream ALL THE THINGS.
The last time GOM streamed qualifiers it was really lackluster and most players didn't even agree to have their matches streamed but now all of a sudden it's an outrage that OGN doesn't stream this.

Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


When in doubt, bandwagon and hate on anything and everything. Sad that so much of the SC2 forums are just flaming really insignificant things.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 02 2012 02:01 GMT
#185
I don't understand why people think GSL doesn't stream their prelims automatically = OGN won't stream when they've traditionally always streamed their BW prelims.

Maybe they'll stream their KeSPA prelims though.
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Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
July 02 2012 02:02 GMT
#186
On July 02 2012 10:59 KissMeRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:50 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Seriously, I would settle for even a purely audio/radio cast of the games at tihs point...


^This must be easy to do, right? It would be perfect for me since I barely watch matches and only listen to the cast anyway.

Granted someone was there that had casting experience, had time/willingness to cast for 12 hours for a few people and got access from OGN to spectate whatever game he/she/they wanted.
Easy.
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 02 2012 02:02 GMT
#187
On July 02 2012 11:00 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

Stream ALL THE THINGS.
The last time GOM streamed qualifiers it was really lackluster and most players didn't even agree to have their matches streamed but now all of a sudden it's an outrage that OGN doesn't stream this.

Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


When in doubt, bandwagon and hate on anything and everything. Sad that so much of the SC2 forums are just flaming really insignificant things.

lol well aren't you such a great high quality, above the influence TLer. Get off your high horse.
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3347 Posts
July 02 2012 02:03 GMT
#188
On July 02 2012 10:59 KissMeRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:50 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Seriously, I would settle for even a purely audio/radio cast of the games at tihs point...


^This must be easy to do, right? It would be perfect for me since I barely watch matches and only listen to the cast anyway.

The problem isn't technical but a legal one.
You cannot stream anything from the games without explicit permission.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 02:05:22
July 02 2012 02:04 GMT
#189
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


The tension comes from the fact that on day one kespa promised an english broadcast by the second week of PL. It's now the tenth or so week of proleague, and there is not a single word. Not even "sorry, it'll take us a couple of months to get it sorted out". Just silence.

"It's really hard to set it up for a new competition" is also no excuse, neither is "they don't have the facilities", because they did have a fully working english broadcast for their first league of legends tourney, on the first day. Funny that, huh? They also had an english website up for it before the competition even started.

Also they usually stream some of the games from the broodwar OSL prelims. So the fact they aren't for this, regardless of it being a new game or not, is a surprise and a step backwards.

It's hard to not get the impression that they really haven't learnt, and really don't give a single shit.
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
July 02 2012 02:05 GMT
#190
tried to find OGN on twitter (like hey i have an idea - make your interest known?)
and found.. Old GIRLS Network.. brrrrr
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 02 2012 02:06 GMT
#191
On July 02 2012 11:05 TumNarDok wrote:
tried to find OGN on twitter (like hey i have an idea - make your interest known?)
and found.. Old GIRLS Network.. brrrrr

ogn's twitter: www.twitter.com/ognlive
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 02 2012 02:06 GMT
#192
On July 02 2012 11:05 TumNarDok wrote:
tried to find OGN on twitter (like hey i have an idea - make your interest known?)
and found.. Old GIRLS Network.. brrrrr

https://twitter.com/#!/ognlive

not much here though =/
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 02:09:30
July 02 2012 02:06 GMT
#193
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themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
July 02 2012 02:07 GMT
#194
On July 02 2012 11:04 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


The tension comes from the fact that on day one kespa promised an english broadcast by the second week of PL. It's now the tenth or so week of proleague, and there is not a single word. Not even "sorry, it'll take us a couple of months to get it sorted out". Just silence.

"It's really hard to set it up for a new competition" is also no excuse, neither is "they don't have the facilities", because they did have a fully working english broadcast for their first league of legends tourney, on the first day. Funny that, huh? They also had an english website up for it before the competition even started.

Also they usually stream some of the games from the broodwar OSL prelims. So the fact they aren't for this, regardless of it being a new game or not, is a surprise and a step backwards.

It's hard to not get the impression that they really haven't learnt, and really don't give a single shit.


Seriously why not moletrap, isnt he working for OGN? I know hes not the #1 sc2 caster but he still does a pretty damn good and professional job, and I bet he would even do it for free if they asked him..
themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
July 02 2012 02:08 GMT
#195
On July 02 2012 11:06 Diamond wrote:
I'm now also surprised that people are surprised that KeSPA and OGN obviously don't give a shit about you. They never have, and now only are making steps when Korean Starcraft is dying and it's moved to the foreign scene. It's all about $$$, it's not because they care. If the money was still in the Korean scene, they would still be isolating themselves like in BW.

Source: Brood War


Good point, but following that logic wouldnt it make sense for them to stream their stuff with english commentary for us? They would make some $$$
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
July 02 2012 02:08 GMT
#196
Why isnt mlg streaming this? Arent they partners with ogn or only kespa?
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 02 2012 02:09 GMT
#197
On July 02 2012 11:06 Diamond wrote:
I'm now also surprised that people are surprised that KeSPA and OGN obviously don't give a shit about you. They never have, and now only are making steps when Korean Starcraft is dying and it's moved to the foreign scene. It's all about $$$, it's not because they care. If the money was still in the Korean scene, they would still be isolating themselves like in BW.

Source: Brood War


I'd be fine with them using me for the money if they did a better job of it. If they want foreigner $$$ they need to make some effort to get foreigner eyes. They're not the only game in town.
KissMeRed
Profile Joined June 2012
United States96 Posts
July 02 2012 02:09 GMT
#198
On July 02 2012 11:02 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:59 KissMeRed wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:50 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Seriously, I would settle for even a purely audio/radio cast of the games at tihs point...


^This must be easy to do, right? It would be perfect for me since I barely watch matches and only listen to the cast anyway.

Granted someone was there that had casting experience, had time/willingness to cast for 12 hours for a few people and got access from OGN to spectate whatever game he/she/they wanted.
Easy.


Lol, I was mostly commenting on the technical aspect. Yes, the rest of it is easy.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
July 02 2012 02:11 GMT
#199
On July 02 2012 11:02 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:00 ZeaL. wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

Stream ALL THE THINGS.
The last time GOM streamed qualifiers it was really lackluster and most players didn't even agree to have their matches streamed but now all of a sudden it's an outrage that OGN doesn't stream this.

Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


When in doubt, bandwagon and hate on anything and everything. Sad that so much of the SC2 forums are just flaming really insignificant things.

lol well aren't you such a great high quality, above the influence TLer. Get off your high horse.


I think the real reason why people are sad is due to the sheer amount of talent that is at OGN...There are a lot of great players in the prelims. When GSL did there prelims no one knew who was the cream and who was just another player. So the Prelims for GSL weren't as hyped. They should do a FAQ soon to let us know what we should be expecting. I understand this is there first tourney and there are always bumps when doing the first one.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
July 02 2012 02:11 GMT
#200
On July 02 2012 11:05 TumNarDok wrote:
tried to find OGN on twitter (like hey i have an idea - make your interest known?)
and found.. Old GIRLS Network.. brrrrr

it's @ognlive
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