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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#161
Somebody fucked up big time by not setting up a stream for this.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 01:41:08
July 02 2012 01:40 GMT
#162
I think as many have said before, I think the reason why a stream is not set up is because OGN is simply not experienced enough with the foreign scene, and how much foreigners enjoy watching streams, which is a major loss of revenue through commericals and just in interest.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 02 2012 01:40 GMT
#163
On July 02 2012 10:37 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
i start to wonder if ogn gives any fuck about international fans for sc2. i mean the amount of information is pretty underwhelming. mb theyre just not used to run sc2/deal with foreign community/have no clear policy on it yet but its really disapointing

i think naniwa has a good shot actually


Well, it is their debut tournament in terms of SC2 only. The first time for most tournaments is usually pretty rough.
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MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
July 02 2012 01:41 GMT
#164
^ ya if there's no stream they're just throwing away fat wads of cash
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 02 2012 01:41 GMT
#165
On July 02 2012 10:40 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:37 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
i start to wonder if ogn gives any fuck about international fans for sc2. i mean the amount of information is pretty underwhelming. mb theyre just not used to run sc2/deal with foreign community/have no clear policy on it yet but its really disapointing

i think naniwa has a good shot actually


Well, it is their debut tournament in terms of SC2 only. The first time for most tournaments is usually pretty rough.


OGN ran WCG Korea, that's not an excuse.
dafunk
Profile Joined January 2009
France521 Posts
July 02 2012 01:41 GMT
#166
I like how OGN / Kespa are like "we should not make the same mistakes as we did in BW and be more open about basicly everything" and still dont communicate anything, dont stream anything, dont post any information in the forums.

Nada, niet, nothing.

ah... korean organisers...
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 02 2012 01:42 GMT
#167
On July 02 2012 10:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think as many have said before, I think the reason why a stream is not set up is because OGN is simply not experienced enough with the foreign scene, and how much foreigners enjoy watching streams, which is a major loss of revenue through commericals and just in interest.


Trust me as someone with a major stream, the income they could gain off a stream is nothing to a TV station like OGN.
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 02 2012 01:42 GMT
#168
On July 02 2012 10:40 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:37 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
i start to wonder if ogn gives any fuck about international fans for sc2. i mean the amount of information is pretty underwhelming. mb theyre just not used to run sc2/deal with foreign community/have no clear policy on it yet but its really disapointing

i think naniwa has a good shot actually


Well, it is their debut tournament in terms of SC2 only. The first time for most tournaments is usually pretty rough.

Yeah, but these guys are supposed to be the biggest in eSports. You'd expect them to do a little better.
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OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
July 02 2012 01:42 GMT
#169
OGN normally has a stream going for the qualifiers. BUT we also have to consider, the OSL qualifiers are set up at a different location than the one they are at today. (AFAIK) And i know Khaldor has said multiple times that the main reason why the Code A qualifiers are hard to cover with a stream is because the venue is not set up for a broadcast in terms of actual set up and internet.
Fingers crossed though.
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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
July 02 2012 01:44 GMT
#170
On July 02 2012 10:41 dafunk wrote:
I like how OGN / Kespa are like "we should not make the same mistakes as we did in BW and be more open about basicly everything" and still dont communicate anything, dont stream anything, dont post any information in the forums.

Nada, niet, nothing.

ah... korean organisers...


Yeah, OGN really needs to get on the ball...
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 02 2012 01:44 GMT
#171
I think both GOM and OGN must be unsure about what to do with qualifiers. When it's not, there's a set of games they can highlight and commentate. In qualifiers there's just a tonne of games being played and they'd have to pick and choose.

Regardless I think it should be streamed, but at the same time we often struggle to get information from GSL qualifiers. I wonder if there's an underlying or cultural issue we're missing?
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
July 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#172
On July 02 2012 10:42 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think as many have said before, I think the reason why a stream is not set up is because OGN is simply not experienced enough with the foreign scene, and how much foreigners enjoy watching streams, which is a major loss of revenue through commericals and just in interest.


Trust me as someone with a major stream, the income they could gain off a stream is nothing to a TV station like OGN.


Hmm, well in that case, the biggest issue is in the tournament itself because so many people were expecting to have at least seen the major games in the OSL, but now that there is no stream, people are going to be disappointed in not being able to see the games.
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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 02 2012 01:46 GMT
#173
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 02 2012 01:49 GMT
#174
is tehre seriously not a stream for this?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
July 02 2012 01:50 GMT
#175
Seriously, I would settle for even a purely audio/radio cast of the games at tihs point...
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CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
July 02 2012 01:51 GMT
#176
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


whatever they want man but just idk say what you will do ?
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themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
July 02 2012 01:52 GMT
#177
dafuq no stream??
u serious?
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 01:54:47
July 02 2012 01:52 GMT
#178
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

With so many games going on and players there I would imagine it would be hard to coordinate. Do prelims for code A still get streamed nowadays?

setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 01:56:09
July 02 2012 01:55 GMT
#179
On July 02 2012 10:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think as many have said before, I think the reason why a stream is not set up is because OGN is simply not experienced enough with the foreign scene, and how much foreigners enjoy watching streams, which is a major loss of revenue through commericals and just in interest.


They explicitely said the transition to SC2 was primarily to become a more global broadcasting company through more globally accepted games. Besides allowing people without a progaming liscense enter the OSL, OGN hasn't done a single damn thing to establish itself outside of Korea in SC2.

OGN has traditionally streamed qualifiers in BW so it'd be weird to stop now when a large international audience could be gained. I hope it is just simply technical difficulties.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
July 02 2012 01:57 GMT
#180
On July 02 2012 10:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

Stream ALL THE THINGS.
The last time GOM streamed qualifiers it was really lackluster and most players didn't even agree to have their matches streamed but now all of a sudden it's an outrage that OGN doesn't stream this.

Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".
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