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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 02 2012 02:32 GMT
#221
Leveltory Brackets: Groups A-F

Daily ESports: Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F

gogo f5 away~
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Fluid
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada136 Posts
July 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#222
I hope artosis is there with a hidden camera filming every game just like with the courage events.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
July 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#223
On July 02 2012 11:32 opterown wrote:
Leveltory Brackets: Groups A-F

Daily ESports: Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F

gogo f5 away~


Got a recommendation on which is more reliable/trustworthy?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 02 2012 02:33 GMT
#224
On July 02 2012 11:33 Fluid wrote:
I hope artosis is there with a hidden camera filming every game just like with the courage events.

Artosis is on a flight back to Korea from the UK.

Khaldor and Moletrap are there though.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#225
On July 02 2012 11:33 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:32 opterown wrote:
Leveltory Brackets: Groups A-F

Daily ESports: Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F

gogo f5 away~


Got a recommendation on which is more reliable/trustworthy?

leveltory is pretty decent, although i expect it to be a bit slower than daily esports. also daily esports is in kr, so a bit harder to follow brackets that way.
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Fluid
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada136 Posts
July 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#226
On July 02 2012 11:32 opterown wrote:
Leveltory Brackets: Groups A-F

Daily ESports: Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F

gogo f5 away~


Jesus each bracket is like a mini MLG
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51077 Posts
July 02 2012 02:35 GMT
#227
On July 02 2012 11:13 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:00 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

Stream ALL THE THINGS.
The last time GOM streamed qualifiers it was really lackluster and most players didn't even agree to have their matches streamed but now all of a sudden it's an outrage that OGN doesn't stream this.

Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


Well, OGN usually streams at least some games from prelims, hence the expectations that there'd be some sort of stream. Also, there's a lot of hype because it's OSL, and it's their "first appearance" in the SC2 scene/big debut...so it's a really lackluster debut when you start off with an opaque qualifier where nobody has an idea what's going on and can't watch the goings down.

Also, have you seen the player pool? This thing is HUGE. It is pretty much every code A/code S player + foreigner player in Korea. Anywhere else you'd have an outrage with that level of competition and no coverage.

They always stream their own players' qualifiers. These groups are bigger by a couple hundred players and also full of random signups. The prestige simply isn't there in a huge set of offline qualifiers.

Moreover, because the groups are so much bigger, the Sindorim venue really isn't set up for broadcasting. It's across the river and I don't even know if GOM has streamed from there. OGN fits all their usual prelims/etc. (i.e. the BW OSL prelims) at Yongsan, which is where their fucking studio is. There are streams of BW prelims because those are professionally licensed players and those prelims take place in a stadium that's logistically capable of supporting a TV broadcast. Fuck, people.

Some of you need to stop saying they don't give a shit. Prelims are a huge and messy operation. Some of my fondest memories are just waiting for updates to see if players I follow got through whatever tournament. It's not your place to be insulted that they don't have a stream.

OGN's casters might not even have time to fit this into their rotation, and they definitely can't fit it on TV with PL happening later. This isn't a time to get upset. If you've got a horse in this, it's time to see how he does.

Edit: Really, this is NOWHERE CLOSE to the OSL proper, which is traditionally thought of as when there are around 16 players left in the tournament, after real matchups have been broadcast for like a month. Not just a batch of hundreds of random players mixed together while they sift out the finest talent.


also the broadcast wold conflict with proleague today....
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6227 Posts
July 02 2012 02:35 GMT
#228
On July 02 2012 11:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:13 oBlade wrote:
On July 02 2012 11:00 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:52 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:46 GreyKnight wrote:
i dont see why streaming the qualifiers is an absolute necessity....i always think of it as a bonus.


Agreed. The amount of OGN/Kespa bashing over these preliminaries is getting annoying. Hopefully there is someone down there that can provide updates.

Stream ALL THE THINGS.
The last time GOM streamed qualifiers it was really lackluster and most players didn't even agree to have their matches streamed but now all of a sudden it's an outrage that OGN doesn't stream this.

Insane amount of games and no information about any kind of stream being online for this = "I expected streams, OGN fucked up".


Well, OGN usually streams at least some games from prelims, hence the expectations that there'd be some sort of stream. Also, there's a lot of hype because it's OSL, and it's their "first appearance" in the SC2 scene/big debut...so it's a really lackluster debut when you start off with an opaque qualifier where nobody has an idea what's going on and can't watch the goings down.

Also, have you seen the player pool? This thing is HUGE. It is pretty much every code A/code S player + foreigner player in Korea. Anywhere else you'd have an outrage with that level of competition and no coverage.

They always stream their own players' qualifiers. These groups are bigger by a couple hundred players and also full of random signups. The prestige simply isn't there in a huge set of offline qualifiers.

Moreover, because the groups are so much bigger, the Sindorim venue really isn't set up for broadcasting. It's across the river and I don't even know if GOM has streamed from there. OGN fits all their usual prelims/etc. (i.e. the BW OSL prelims) at Yongsan, which is where their fucking studio is. There are streams of BW prelims because those are professionally licensed players and those prelims take place in a stadium that's logistically capable of supporting a TV broadcast. Fuck, people.

Some of you need to stop saying they don't give a shit. Prelims are a huge and messy operation. Some of my fondest memories are just waiting for updates to see if players I follow got through whatever tournament. It's not your place to be insulted that they don't have a stream.

OGN's casters might not even have time to fit this into their rotation, and they definitely can't fit it on TV with PL happening later. This isn't a time to get upset. If you've got a horse in this, it's time to see how he does.

Edit: Really, this is NOWHERE CLOSE to the OSL proper, which is traditionally thought of as when there are around 16 players left in the tournament, after real matchups have been broadcast for like a month. Not just a batch of hundreds of random players mixed together while they sift out the finest talent.


also the broadcast wold conflict with proleague today....

That's a good point, so I'm glad I made it in the post you quoted.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 02:36:13
July 02 2012 02:36 GMT
#229
Thomas Kilian ‏@Khaldor
Looking confident before his first round match vs Dreamertt: @TSLHyuN :-)


if it's still hyun-dreamertt, then the brackets are correct
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51077 Posts
July 02 2012 02:36 GMT
#230
On July 02 2012 11:33 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:32 opterown wrote:
Leveltory Brackets: Groups A-F

Daily ESports: Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F

gogo f5 away~


Got a recommendation on which is more reliable/trustworthy?

both are reliable, leveltory is updated by people on scene and DES is a legit Esports news site...
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SilverWolfe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
July 02 2012 02:38 GMT
#231
I think that OGN has not bothered to start the Proleague English cast simply because there isn't enough interest in Proleague. On opening day when Proleague was just started, a there were a few foreign fans willing to watch it because it was all day and it was the official debut of many BW players into SC2. After people saw that a lot of the BW players simply weren't that good at SC2, I think a lot of the foreign community lost interest. Even when you see the stream in studio, most of the time unless it is two really popular teams (KT, SKT, CJ), the studio will basically be empty.

I can't say I'm not that surprised that they haven't bothered to show any of the games from this qualifier. I think the fans of BW who have only seen SC2 games through Proleague will probably be shocked when they see how much better at the game the current SC2 pros are from the Kespa players.

Here's to hoping Kespa players can actually hold their own against them by September...
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
July 02 2012 02:38 GMT
#232
On July 02 2012 11:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:33 MCXD wrote:
On July 02 2012 11:32 opterown wrote:
Leveltory Brackets: Groups A-F

Daily ESports: Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F

gogo f5 away~


Got a recommendation on which is more reliable/trustworthy?

both are reliable, leveltory is updated by people on scene and DES is a legit Esports news site...


Oh, yeah. I wasn't implying they were crooked. Just with qualifiers and not-streamed things then tends to be occasional miscommunications/mistakes or odd slumps in result updating.
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
July 02 2012 02:39 GMT
#233
Moletrap is updating on twitter now also

moletrap ‏@moletrap
Golden mouse winner (already won 3 OSLs) Julyzerg is here to qualify yet again.
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OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
July 02 2012 02:39 GMT
#234
for the love of all that is good in the world...I want Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide to own shit up...I miss him so much ;-;
Fluid
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada136 Posts
July 02 2012 02:40 GMT
#235
On July 02 2012 11:39 KillerDucky wrote:
Golden mouse winner (already won 3 OSLs) Julyzerg is here to qualify yet again.


Not to hate on July but if he couldn't handle gsl (he was doing baneling busts every game), how is he expecting to make it through these incredibly stacked brackets?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 02:41:31
July 02 2012 02:41 GMT
#236
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 02 2012 02:41 GMT
#237
On July 02 2012 11:40 Fluid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:39 KillerDucky wrote:
Golden mouse winner (already won 3 OSLs) Julyzerg is here to qualify yet again.


Not to hate on July but if he couldn't handle gsl (he was doing baneling busts every game), how is he expecting to make it through these incredibly stacked brackets?

who's saying he's gonna qualify?
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
July 02 2012 02:41 GMT
#238
On July 02 2012 11:32 opterown wrote:
Leveltory Brackets: Groups A-F

Daily ESports: Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F

gogo f5 away~


you are the man!! thanks!
Fluid
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada136 Posts
July 02 2012 02:42 GMT
#239
On July 02 2012 11:41 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:40 Fluid wrote:
On July 02 2012 11:39 KillerDucky wrote:
Golden mouse winner (already won 3 OSLs) Julyzerg is here to qualify yet again.


Not to hate on July but if he couldn't handle gsl (he was doing baneling busts every game), how is he expecting to make it through these incredibly stacked brackets?

who's saying he's gonna qualify?


So then why did he go? You usually go to qualifiers with the goal of making it through...
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 02 2012 02:43 GMT
#240
On July 02 2012 11:42 Fluid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:41 johnnywup wrote:
On July 02 2012 11:40 Fluid wrote:
On July 02 2012 11:39 KillerDucky wrote:
Golden mouse winner (already won 3 OSLs) Julyzerg is here to qualify yet again.


Not to hate on July but if he couldn't handle gsl (he was doing baneling busts every game), how is he expecting to make it through these incredibly stacked brackets?

who's saying he's gonna qualify?


So then why did he go? You usually go to qualifiers with the goal of making it through...

july stands a damn chance better than the nonames in here :D worth a shot!
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