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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 11 2012 02:08 GMT
#7561
Did we ever get a TvP battle report?
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
June 11 2012 02:11 GMT
#7562
I was going to watch DRG vs MKP but I had a blackout......great timing T_____________T


Now that MLG is finished, will they release replays? I remember they did last year lol MMA vs Losira
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 11 2012 02:14 GMT
#7563
On June 11 2012 11:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I wonder why they don't just have LO3 right after MLG.

because its going on at the barcraft tonight. MLG ended ahead of schedule too. they weren't expecting the award ceremony until 8:00 and it was at 6:30. If Alicia pushed it to a bo9, there would have been right on schedule though.
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ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
June 11 2012 02:14 GMT
#7564
On June 11 2012 11:08 Dodgin wrote:
Did we ever get a TvP battle report?

No because blizzard hates us It's a little surprising to see them leave one out even if they were pressed for time.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 11 2012 02:22 GMT
#7565
So I'm watching the kespa invitational right now, and DAAAMN these players are improving fast.. Flash in particular.. WTF he was a scrub like a week ago, he looks like he could win code A or somthing right now.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
June 11 2012 02:23 GMT
#7566
So, yesterday Flash mentioned about coming to other foreign tourneys. Does this mean Kespa has opened the flood gates for their players to play in foreign tourneys? What about the GSL? So it'll basically be like the OSL and MSL of BW except with GSL replacing MSL.
$♥$
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
June 11 2012 02:33 GMT
#7567
[image loading]

Jesus fuck.
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DropTester
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia608 Posts
June 11 2012 02:34 GMT
#7568
On June 11 2012 11:23 Devolved wrote:
So, yesterday Flash mentioned about coming to other foreign tourneys. Does this mean Kespa has opened the flood gates for their players to play in foreign tourneys? What about the GSL? So it'll basically be like the OSL and MSL of BW except with GSL replacing MSL.


I think it'll be a little limited for the kespa players, at least for a while. I think it was in the mlg interview where they mentioned about a more exclusive partnership. I could be wrong though, dont remember correctly.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 11 2012 02:35 GMT
#7569
On June 11 2012 10:44 Flonomenalz wrote:
For the record, 6 pool is fairly standard on TDA.

If you let Toss FFE, your third is always going to be in an awkward location, and that can be exploited by a variety of Toss timings, most predominantly being the +2 blink stalker timing off of the FFE. So you either have to deal with that, or go 2 base vs 2 base Toss, which also kind of sucks. Therefore, you 6p to reset the game and allow yourself to expand faster.

The problem with Alicia's play is he never scouted the double expand, and his third was too slow. He should have killed those rocks with his army before he pushed out. But he did everything else before that perfectly. If he had scouted the 4th (his hallu phoenix died JUST before reaching it) he could have easily killed it, and it would have been 3 base vs 3 base.

Another thing I would like to see in PvZ is faster templar tech against Infestors. So many Protosses wait so long, or go for robo --> colossus instead... which gives Z so much time to respond. Templars force roaches since storm/feedback destroys Ling/Infestor, then you can go robo after forcing roaches.

Calm down with the imbalance whine if you don't even understand what you're watching.


And this is why I always ban TDA. Truth be told though, a DT rush is a very good follow up to being 6pooled if you hold with any sort of success.

Actually, I believe Alicia turned the phoenix south before he found the hidden expo at 12 o'clock. That made me cringe.
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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 11 2012 02:37 GMT
#7570
On June 11 2012 11:33 Chargelot wrote:
[image loading]

Jesus fuck.

Nice catch. I see computer AI does ~1000 APM all the time (usually spamming waypoints) but never a human doing it. Not in a real match.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
June 11 2012 02:37 GMT
#7571
On June 11 2012 11:14 ladyumbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:08 Dodgin wrote:
Did we ever get a TvP battle report?

No because blizzard hates us It's a little surprising to see them leave one out even if they were pressed for time.

Why suprising? It makes perfect sense: it's Zerg expansion and they want to show the new units. Two different match-ups accomplish that for all races. They even let Zerg win once and lose once. Remember, the games were not meant to show any new real strategies, it's just show-off before the beta begins and before all the final balancing comes to play.
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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:39:45
June 11 2012 02:39 GMT
#7572
On June 11 2012 11:35 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 10:44 Flonomenalz wrote:
For the record, 6 pool is fairly standard on TDA.

If you let Toss FFE, your third is always going to be in an awkward location, and that can be exploited by a variety of Toss timings, most predominantly being the +2 blink stalker timing off of the FFE. So you either have to deal with that, or go 2 base vs 2 base Toss, which also kind of sucks. Therefore, you 6p to reset the game and allow yourself to expand faster.

The problem with Alicia's play is he never scouted the double expand, and his third was too slow. He should have killed those rocks with his army before he pushed out. But he did everything else before that perfectly. If he had scouted the 4th (his hallu phoenix died JUST before reaching it) he could have easily killed it, and it would have been 3 base vs 3 base.

Another thing I would like to see in PvZ is faster templar tech against Infestors. So many Protosses wait so long, or go for robo --> colossus instead... which gives Z so much time to respond. Templars force roaches since storm/feedback destroys Ling/Infestor, then you can go robo after forcing roaches.

Calm down with the imbalance whine if you don't even understand what you're watching.


And this is why I always ban TDA. Truth be told though, a DT rush is a very good follow up to being 6pooled if you hold with any sort of success.

Actually, I believe Alicia turned the phoenix south before he found the hidden expo at 12 o'clock. That made me cringe.

What's ironic is Alicia picked TDA, provoking 6 pool from DRG.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
June 11 2012 02:39 GMT
#7573
On June 11 2012 11:37 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:14 ladyumbra wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:08 Dodgin wrote:
Did we ever get a TvP battle report?

No because blizzard hates us It's a little surprising to see them leave one out even if they were pressed for time.

Why suprising? It makes perfect sense: it's Zerg expansion and they want to show the new units. Two different match-ups accomplish that for all races. They even let Zerg win once and lose once. Remember, the games were not meant to show any new real strategies, it's just show-off before the beta begins and before all the final balancing comes to play.

This is very true, but still with all the new units and stuff you might have thought they would at least show us how well the new stuff mixes with the old.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
June 11 2012 02:39 GMT
#7574
On June 11 2012 11:37 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:33 Chargelot wrote:
[image loading]

Jesus fuck.

Nice catch. I see computer AI does ~1000 APM all the time (usually spamming waypoints) but never a human doing it. Not in a real match.

That's EPM, spam doesn't count towards it.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 11 2012 02:40 GMT
#7575
On June 11 2012 11:39 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:37 usethis2 wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:33 Chargelot wrote:
[image loading]

Jesus fuck.

Nice catch. I see computer AI does ~1000 APM all the time (usually spamming waypoints) but never a human doing it. Not in a real match.

That's EPM, spam doesn't count towards it.


apm and epm are reversed in the observer UI for who knows what reason, so that's including spam.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 11 2012 02:40 GMT
#7576
I thought EPM and APM are flipped in current patch?
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
June 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#7577
On June 11 2012 11:40 usethis2 wrote:
I thought EPM and APM are flipped in current patch?

Oh. Even so... I think my keyboard would snap in half if I did that.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:46:47
June 11 2012 02:43 GMT
#7578
CDJR making a big comeback on the fighting stream damn.

then right as I say that he loses lol
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
June 11 2012 02:48 GMT
#7579
Congrats to DRG well won!
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 11 2012 02:50 GMT
#7580
On June 11 2012 11:33 Chargelot wrote:
[image loading]

Jesus fuck.


there's a lot of redundancy in his actions but i can't lie he's moving those fingers quick even if it is just spamming haha
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