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On April 11 2012 20:41 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:40 Scribble wrote: Polt is going to go 0-2 in this group playing only TvP? o.O Just because of TvP. No one feels comfortable in this match up now.
Just saying it's odd because TvP is not only his best matchup, he was, at one point, almost unbeatable vs P; even without resorting to the 1 / 1 / 1.
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Typical Oz, choke hard when you are in the games to go in the winners match, then stomp your opponent in the losers match, only to choke once again in the 2nd place match.
It's season1 RO16 all over again.
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oh no oz doing this build again ~~;
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On April 11 2012 20:41 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:40 Scribble wrote: Polt is going to go 0-2 in this group playing only TvP? o.O Just because of TvP. No one feels comfortable in this match up now. Polt said in pregame show that he wants to play protoss because it's his best mu. What are you talking about ?
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This fast third nexus is the perfect counter to polt's play since polt always goes for late grades. To beat this 3 nexus build you need: - tech (medivacs) - grades
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On April 11 2012 20:42 Scribble wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:41 Huragius wrote:On April 11 2012 20:40 Scribble wrote: Polt is going to go 0-2 in this group playing only TvP? o.O Just because of TvP. No one feels comfortable in this match up now. Just saying it's odd because TvP is not only his best matchup, he was, at one point, almost unbeatable vs P; even without resorting to the 1 / 1 / 1.
Was. So was Bomber, so was MKP.
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On April 11 2012 20:43 kyllinghest wrote: Voicecommand upgrades! Injects, for sure
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On April 11 2012 20:41 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:40 Scribble wrote: Polt is going to go 0-2 in this group playing only TvP? o.O Just because of TvP. No one feels comfortable in this match up now. That's why Polt said before the games he wants to face protoss....he doesn't feel comfortable
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On April 11 2012 20:42 Porcelina wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:36 Asha` wrote:On April 11 2012 20:35 Porcelina wrote: He does NOT know everything. Those bunkers kind of signal that he has no idea about the third yes/no? You still need the bunkers to hold off the gateway pressure safely regardless. You may be right, I lost track of where the timeline was for Stim, Medivacs and upgrades. However even if he got a full scout off on natural and main, he did not have map vision of the army nor of the third. And the game played out like he was just behind all the way; not sure that an earlier attack on the third would have done anything, but oh well.
By the time he scouted it, it was to late to punish it since the gateways were already done and you need stim(and medivacs depending on size) to take map control against pure gateway.
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And this is why you dont build cannons vs terran.
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United States23455 Posts
Oz went for a greedy third like a lot of Tosses do on Daybreak, then pressure with lots of gates, and get a huge lead. That's why most Tosses pick Daybreak as their map if they lose the first or second set. The game pretty much went the same way Oz/Polt did at Columbus with Oz getting quick third, Polt not really doing anything and Oz winning with the huge econ lead. Only difference is that Polt, instead of trying to play economy with Oz like at Columbus, he tried to snipe the third in desperation and failed.
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On April 11 2012 20:40 fixed_point wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:40 generatepassword wrote:if polt lose, we has another tvp  Please no more. WIthout parting, it is worse than GomTvT Coming from a Protoss point of view, PvT needs some PartinG or Squirtle to be fun right now
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On April 11 2012 20:46 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:40 fixed_point wrote:On April 11 2012 20:40 generatepassword wrote:if polt lose, we has another tvp  Please no more. WIthout parting, it is worse than GomTvT Coming from a Protoss point of view, PvT needs some PartinG or Squirtle to be fun right now
Or HerO. Or Genius.
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Switzerland2892 Posts
I know, I edited it...
On April 11 2012 20:24 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:23 pPingu wrote: I missed the end of parting vs forgg g1 and the whole game 2, I can't find any LR
Could somebody please make me a quick summary? parting 2-0 fin 1st game was heavy macro 2nd game was parting 1 base immortal busting.. but fin came to parting thinking it was an expo and lost all his marines in a bad engagement (he was 5 raxing after expo)
Thank you
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ZvP? lol but I am not sure about this
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Can someone explain to me how the build Oz went with last game works. What is its weakness? In that game he went 3 base and pressured, he is barely behind on tech but on 1 more base and even supply. The third exp kicks in so fast after Polt's counterattack as well. I would think you would be too weak to make a good push going when you are taking an early third.
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On April 11 2012 20:44 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:42 Scribble wrote:On April 11 2012 20:41 Huragius wrote:On April 11 2012 20:40 Scribble wrote: Polt is going to go 0-2 in this group playing only TvP? o.O Just because of TvP. No one feels comfortable in this match up now. Just saying it's odd because TvP is not only his best matchup, he was, at one point, almost unbeatable vs P; even without resorting to the 1 / 1 / 1. Was. So was Bomber, so was MKP.
MKP and Polt still win the vast majority of their TvPs. Everyone has off days though.
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On April 11 2012 20:46 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 20:40 fixed_point wrote:On April 11 2012 20:40 generatepassword wrote:if polt lose, we has another tvp  Please no more. WIthout parting, it is worse than GomTvT Coming from a Protoss point of view, PvT needs some PartinG or Squirtle to be fun right now or Genius or Inca for epic "derp wheres my detection" - moments :D
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