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[GSTL] 2012 Season 1 Playoffs Ro4 Match 2 - Page 25

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EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
April 01 2012 06:33 GMT
#481
y creator? lucky's zvp is known to be one of the best
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 01 2012 06:33 GMT
#482
On April 01 2012 15:33 Oboeman wrote:
Lucky tried to nydus Idra when he went muta, but idra stopped it.


entombed is a good map for forcefields.


That is true though, been practicing that map ZvP too much lately
Jaedong & Faker
supsun
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom343 Posts
April 01 2012 06:33 GMT
#483
I hope Creator loses, even though I am voting for Prime. But my Creator anti fan mind is taking over my Prime fan mind.
Inty
Profile Joined June 2010
United States99 Posts
April 01 2012 06:33 GMT
#484
Yea I don't get it a Terran would be better against lucky as zvt is his weakest matchup while his zvp is his strongest.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#485
I just can't understand the commantators claiming Prime to be Nervous being up 2-1 AND with MKP is still not used :S
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 06:34:37
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#486
On April 01 2012 15:32 Thinasy wrote:
What are they on about? Why do they HAVE to use Creator?

Entombed is a good PvZ map and its too early for MKP, but tbh MKP could probably finish this now.

better play safe though.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#487
I think Creator has got this.. PvZ on Emtombed..
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#488
On April 01 2012 15:33 vndods wrote:
Oz will probably be next if Creator wins this right? How's Creators PvP? I only ever see his amazing vZ and vT.


I believe Creator's PvP has been the problem why he isn't Code S yet...
Jaedong & Faker
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#489
On April 01 2012 15:33 supsun wrote:
I hope Creator loses, even though I am voting for Prime. But my Creator anti fan mind is taking over my Prime fan mind.


Why are you an anti-fan of Creator? I'm just curious.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#490
On April 01 2012 15:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What good is bringing creator out? if creator beats lucky they just send out Oz to lose to one of the two kings.


What if this is the plan?

Sniping isn't the only team league tactic. Counter sniping is pretty good too. Perhaps Prime wants Oz out earlier rather than later so they can be assured Leenock comes out last?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#491
On April 01 2012 15:33 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 15:31 pdd wrote:
Wtf Khaldor? ... entombed valley = Terran vs Zerg.

Bunker rush incoming.

EDIT: Blegh...

Not only is this a good map for Protoss, but Lucky has really good ZvT. Even though the chances of him beating someone like MKP is low they're not going to risk any of their top terrans against someone who's good at that match up. At least not this early.

Lucky has a far FAR better ZvP.
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Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#492
I don't really like using Creator here personally. Assuming you want to bring in MKP/Byun/Maru for your last 3 players, you're risking someone going on a sick vT streak.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
April 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#493
I would actually throw MKP in this situation, I think. Sure Lucky's ZvT is good, but MKP is on another level, I think he could overpower Lucky, and keep Prime in the driver's seat, putting FXO in an awkward spot, probably having to throw Leenock as their only player to stand up to MKP in an even match. Plus MKP has nerve issues so not worth it to save him to the end, leave that to Creator.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
April 01 2012 06:35 GMT
#494
Well Creator or Byun would the smart choice it isn't bad. Maru's TvZ is his worst match up I think and sending MKP is too risky against Lucky with good ZvT and Oz and most scarily Leenock behind him.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 01 2012 06:35 GMT
#495
On April 01 2012 15:34 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 15:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What good is bringing creator out? if creator beats lucky they just send out Oz to lose to one of the two kings.


What if this is the plan?

Sniping isn't the only team league tactic. Counter sniping is pretty good too. Perhaps Prime wants Oz out earlier rather than later so they can be assured Leenock comes out last?

I meant from FXO's view point. Sorry. I was looking at it as the counter sniping by Prime
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EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
April 01 2012 06:35 GMT
#496
On April 01 2012 15:33 vndods wrote:
Oz will probably be next if Creator wins this right? How's Creators PvP? I only ever see his amazing vZ and vT.

90% of protoss players' worst match up is pvp except a few specialists like oz and inca
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 06:36:51
April 01 2012 06:35 GMT
#497
On April 01 2012 15:34 Kettchup wrote:
I don't really like using Creator here personally. Assuming you want to bring in MKP/Byun/Maru for your last 3 players, you're risking someone going on a sick vT streak.

Oops, sorry.

idk, MKP, Byun, and Maru all have very different styles, can't really see anyone taking all 3 of them out.
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 06:36:30
April 01 2012 06:35 GMT
#498
only problem with creator now is the last 3 from prime should be maru byun and marineking, all terrans

yay my moment
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 01 2012 06:36 GMT
#499
That was a great ZvZ with a really cool Nydus play. Lucky looking really good in that game with a lot of cute moves.

I hope Creator does well. I'm already liking this series so far, though I missed what had apparently been an amazing Game 1.
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Suichoy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada397 Posts
April 01 2012 06:36 GMT
#500
My moommeent
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