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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14058 Posts
February 10 2012 02:01 GMT
#141
I like robin. hes got a voice and a way of doing things thats different then a lot of other casters.

really hope the stream comes back up but I think ganzi has this.
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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 02:01:48
February 10 2012 02:01 GMT
#142
On February 10 2012 10:51 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 10:50 dignitas.merz wrote:
Enters live thread.

Sees people claiming they'd handle the situation better than MMA.

Standard.

You should think well and hard before you post things like these. Put yourself in a MLG invite only qualifier where pretty much the top of S.korea is invited and you have high expectations on yourself and also from the fans/viewers, and then claim you would handle the situation better than MMA. I would think not.


Quote the posts that said they would have done better.

Yeah, people aren't saying they could have done better. They're saying MMA should have done better.
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SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
February 10 2012 02:01 GMT
#143
Twitch has been less than satisfying lately.
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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
February 10 2012 02:02 GMT
#144
On February 10 2012 11:01 SC2NeCro wrote:
Twitch has been less than satisfying lately.


dont think its twitch, why do you assume that?
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
February 10 2012 02:04 GMT
#145
On February 10 2012 11:02 caradoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 11:01 SC2NeCro wrote:
Twitch has been less than satisfying lately.


dont think its twitch, why do you assume that?

What would it be then? We're all watching streams on Twitch and it's been lagging a lot lately :/
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
February 10 2012 02:05 GMT
#146
On February 10 2012 11:01 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 10:51 Tobblish wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:50 dignitas.merz wrote:
Enters live thread.

Sees people claiming they'd handle the situation better than MMA.

Standard.

You should think well and hard before you post things like these. Put yourself in a MLG invite only qualifier where pretty much the top of S.korea is invited and you have high expectations on yourself and also from the fans/viewers, and then claim you would handle the situation better than MMA. I would think not.


Quote the posts that said they would have done better.

Yeah, people aren't saying they could have done better. They're saying MMA should have done better.


I feel like I don't have to point fingers specifically when it's pretty easy to look at the replies and determine what I'm talking about. I said think well and hard before you post things like this, doesn't feel necessary to single pick a person and flame him for it.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 10 2012 02:06 GMT
#147
On February 10 2012 11:01 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 10:55 Devolved wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:51 Eufouria wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:48 Zambrah wrote:
I REALLY wish he'd lift his buildings, put his SCVs in his Command Center and take his floating Command Center and Barracks to another base.

MMA that is.

INCREDIBLY disappointed in that series. Incredibly, incredibly disappointed.

If he lifts the CC he'll never get to land it again. He needed to pull SCVs as soon as he saw the drone train and blocked the ramp until the marine was out. I doubt he's practiced holding 6 pools recently though.

Lucky could have still drone drilled the ramp by just clicking minerals in MMA's base. I really really hate this feature in SC2 where you don't even have to have vision of minerals to make your workers use the mine command.


Yes, because drone drilling is super popular on the ladder and in major tournaments. Zergs are getting so many free wins due to it.

It's not drone drilling in particular I don't like. It's the whole concept of any worker from any race being able to get into your base without vision even if your ramp is blocked by units. This can be done for scouting purposes or for a a bust. I remember in BW there was a glitch where you could do this and a progamer actually got disqualified from the game for doing it (for scouting purposes).
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 10 2012 02:06 GMT
#148
On February 10 2012 11:01 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 10:51 Tobblish wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:50 dignitas.merz wrote:
Enters live thread.

Sees people claiming they'd handle the situation better than MMA.

Standard.

You should think well and hard before you post things like these. Put yourself in a MLG invite only qualifier where pretty much the top of S.korea is invited and you have high expectations on yourself and also from the fans/viewers, and then claim you would handle the situation better than MMA. I would think not.


Quote the posts that said they would have done better.

Yeah, people aren't saying they could have done better. They're saying MMA should have done better.

Exactly my point.

When I play and get caught off guard like a position like that I also tell myself what I COULD have done to improve or done.
None of the posts said that they would have done what they suggested.
The curse is real
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 10 2012 02:07 GMT
#149
On February 10 2012 11:05 dignitas.merz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 11:01 Devolved wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:51 Tobblish wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:50 dignitas.merz wrote:
Enters live thread.

Sees people claiming they'd handle the situation better than MMA.

Standard.

You should think well and hard before you post things like these. Put yourself in a MLG invite only qualifier where pretty much the top of S.korea is invited and you have high expectations on yourself and also from the fans/viewers, and then claim you would handle the situation better than MMA. I would think not.


Quote the posts that said they would have done better.

Yeah, people aren't saying they could have done better. They're saying MMA should have done better.


I feel like I don't have to point fingers specifically when it's pretty easy to look at the replies and determine what I'm talking about. I said think well and hard before you post things like this, doesn't feel necessary to single pick a person and flame him for it.


No worries <3
Shouldn't you bee sleeping btw? 3am here in Sweden atm ^^
Or you are abroad somewhere?`:p
The curse is real
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 02:09:37
February 10 2012 02:08 GMT
#150
On February 10 2012 11:04 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 11:02 caradoc wrote:
On February 10 2012 11:01 SC2NeCro wrote:
Twitch has been less than satisfying lately.


dont think its twitch, why do you assume that?

What would it be then? We're all watching streams on Twitch and it's been lagging a lot lately :/


couldnt it be on mlgs side? correct me if i'm wrong

didnt realize other twitch streams were laggy, i hadnt noticed myself watching other streams.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 10 2012 02:09 GMT
#151
heh, both ForGG and Ganzi have the stone-cold killer faces :p
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Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
February 10 2012 02:10 GMT
#152
Damn man, that's pretty disappointing on MMA's part. Hope he tries for the open bracket regardless.
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
February 10 2012 02:10 GMT
#153
On February 10 2012 11:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
heh, both ForGG and Ganzi have the stone-cold killer faces :p


forGG is a thug.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 02:16:46
February 10 2012 02:13 GMT
#154
Go Ganzi!

Edit: From the comments, I am right to guess that Lucky eliminated MMA again with some cheese again? As if he was not cheesy enough...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
February 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#155
On February 10 2012 11:06 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 11:01 Ventor wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:55 Devolved wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:51 Eufouria wrote:
On February 10 2012 10:48 Zambrah wrote:
I REALLY wish he'd lift his buildings, put his SCVs in his Command Center and take his floating Command Center and Barracks to another base.

MMA that is.

INCREDIBLY disappointed in that series. Incredibly, incredibly disappointed.

If he lifts the CC he'll never get to land it again. He needed to pull SCVs as soon as he saw the drone train and blocked the ramp until the marine was out. I doubt he's practiced holding 6 pools recently though.

Lucky could have still drone drilled the ramp by just clicking minerals in MMA's base. I really really hate this feature in SC2 where you don't even have to have vision of minerals to make your workers use the mine command.


Yes, because drone drilling is super popular on the ladder and in major tournaments. Zergs are getting so many free wins due to it.

It's not drone drilling in particular I don't like. It's the whole concept of any worker from any race being able to get into your base without vision even if your ramp is blocked by units. This can be done for scouting purposes or for a a bust. I remember in BW there was a glitch where you could do this and a progamer actually got disqualified from the game for doing it (for scouting purposes).


I'm sorry but that would be retarded in starcraft 2. Considering how powerful rush strategies are. The ability to scout leads to scenarios where the better player wins.
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lxxpxrd
Profile Joined December 2011
10 Posts
February 10 2012 02:17 GMT
#156
Would have been better if results hadn't been leaked :/

The casters are good, I agree that things could look more professional to appeal to outsiders but it's not really a minus to me personally watching.

It is a bit annoying that every time a stat screen comes up that I notice it flicks off to commercial or JPs face within half a second before I can read any of it, but no big deal.

Seeing JP trying to be all G-Rated is hilarious if a bit painful.

Overall production could be a bit better but I'm enjoying the show, just wish it hadn't been spoiled.
AphexSCV
Profile Joined February 2012
3 Posts
February 10 2012 02:18 GMT
#157
On February 10 2012 10:50 Tracers wrote:
I'm not usually very critical of casters but Robin really in my opinion shouldn't be at this level of casting exposure. The chat was going insane, and it just got me to thinking - people need to speak up about what they like and don't like. And to be honest I think MLG needs to continue on it's path of success and put out only the best and quality casters - Robin is unfortunately not up to par in my opinion.

Robin speaks so fast, I can't understand a word he's saying...how is that enjoyable? Had the same issue when he was on the beta streams, I supported him then...it was a big venue, nerves - whatever...tonight for the KR qualifiers there shouldn't be any excuse especially since he got panned so hard, and seems to have completely disregarded all criticism and kept blasting along at 1000 miles an hour, and game knowledge doesn't really seem to have improved either, aside from Zerg which he knows pretty well, but obviously casters need to be pretty aware of all 3 races.

I really don't mean to be offensive but if eSports is to grow and we all have to do our part, criticising is a big part of that so that the people who do work hard to put out content, continue to strive to be better.


I hate to make my first post a negative one, but I was sent this thread from a friend on reddit. Please don't hate cause I am a redditor, I love eSports and read TL frequently. So I say this with love MLG

I have to agree with Tracers, this guy Robin made the whole production look Amateur. In his bedroom and clearly doesn't understand the game at the highest level.

I refuse to accept the excuse that they didn't know this guy or it was last minute. I had a free silver stream account courtesy of hot pockets and I watched Robin cast the Orlando MLG. He was the exact same too fast, no knowledge, and that lisp is pretty bad. I'm assuming he is related to someone that works at MLG, or their standards have sank lower than whale feces at the bottom of the ocean.

I just want to see MLG do well. Robin is not an MLG caster level caster. I have tuned in every night thus far, but tonight I just had to turn it off. Do the fans justice. JP solo casting would have been better. Good job up to this point though!
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
February 10 2012 02:21 GMT
#158
Yeah Fin!
Fav Terran: forGG, aLive, Jinro ||| Fav Zerg: Moon, TLO, DRG ||| Fav Protoss: Genius, Grubby, ToD
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 02:27:43
February 10 2012 02:23 GMT
#159
On February 10 2012 11:18 AphexSCV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 10:50 Tracers wrote:
I'm not usually very critical of casters but Robin really in my opinion shouldn't be at this level of casting exposure. The chat was going insane, and it just got me to thinking - people need to speak up about what they like and don't like. And to be honest I think MLG needs to continue on it's path of success and put out only the best and quality casters - Robin is unfortunately not up to par in my opinion.

Robin speaks so fast, I can't understand a word he's saying...how is that enjoyable? Had the same issue when he was on the beta streams, I supported him then...it was a big venue, nerves - whatever...tonight for the KR qualifiers there shouldn't be any excuse especially since he got panned so hard, and seems to have completely disregarded all criticism and kept blasting along at 1000 miles an hour, and game knowledge doesn't really seem to have improved either, aside from Zerg which he knows pretty well, but obviously casters need to be pretty aware of all 3 races.

I really don't mean to be offensive but if eSports is to grow and we all have to do our part, criticising is a big part of that so that the people who do work hard to put out content, continue to strive to be better.


I hate to make my first post a negative one, but I was sent this thread from a friend on reddit. Please don't hate cause I am a redditor, I love eSports and read TL frequently. So I say this with love MLG

I have to agree with Tracers, this guy Robin made the whole production look Amateur. In his bedroom and clearly doesn't understand the game at the highest level.

I refuse to accept the excuse that they didn't know this guy or it was last minute. I had a free silver stream account courtesy of hot pockets and I watched Robin cast the Orlando MLG. He was the exact same too fast, no knowledge, and that lisp is pretty bad. I'm assuming he is related to someone that works at MLG, or their standards have sank lower than whale feces at the bottom of the ocean.

I just want to see MLG do well. Robin is not an MLG caster level caster. I have tuned in every night thus far, but tonight I just had to turn it off. Do the fans justice. JP solo casting would have been better. Good job up to this point though!


Go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310434
What is wrong doing it form a bedroom?
The biggest SC2 community guy streams almost daily from his!...
But i guess every caster in SC2 should have their own personal studio, sounds fair because it just HAS to be "professional".

And saying he has no knowledge...you have to be awful or just not listining at all, every time he makes cool preditions like "this build is starting to get popular here but not so much here" AND HE IS RIGHT!... *facepalm*
But if you seriously can't hear him "because he talks fast" i guess your brain is slow, no offense.
The curse is real
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 10 2012 02:23 GMT
#160
Damn man, that's pretty disappointing on MMA's part. Hope he tries for the open bracket regardless.


Is MMA out? Can't he still go through the LB?
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