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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:14 Jacobs Ladder wrote: Well, Losira is going to get wrecked. Until IM gets a good P player I don't think anyone on that team is going to be top notch vP. Uh, team practice partners don't mean jack in terms of good matchups. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:14 Jacobs Ladder wrote: Well, Losira is going to get wrecked. Until IM gets a good P player I don't think anyone on that team is going to be top notch vP. This line of logic again....Nestea and Losira were once considered the 2 best ZvPers in all SC2, with the exact same protoss practice partners as they have now. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:14 Jacobs Ladder wrote: Well, Losira is going to get wrecked. Until IM gets a good P player I don't think anyone on that team is going to be top notch vP. Nestea is still 80% vs P on papper lol | ||
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puzzl
United States263 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:05 randomsaint wrote: cc first is eco cheese and shouldn't be unpunishable Whoever invented the term "eco cheese" needs to fall over and die. I am so sick of this fucking viewpoint that anything but a well balanced macro game where you don't attack before 200 supply and don't get too much of a single unit is "cheese." What a bunch of garbage. If you are going to post that shit, please just don't post at all, you have no idea what you are talking about and need to stop talking. | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
sc2 has come a long way since gsl season 1 ;p | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:19 puzzl wrote: Whoever invented the term "eco cheese" needs to fall over and die. I am so sick of this fucking viewpoint that anything but a well balanced macro game where you don't attack before 200 supply and don't get too much of a single unit is "cheese." What a bunch of garbage. If you are going to post that shit, please just don't post at all, you have no idea what you are talking about and need to stop talking. A 15 CC outside of your base is an extremely greedy and risky play. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:17 wklbishop wrote: Seed and Yonghwa are pretty good. Though they don't have much luck getting into Code A... They're not bad, but I feel like there's a huge gap between them and protoss players like Parting, MC, Oz, and Genius. I mean, there's a reason IM players are historically weakest against Protoss, they just don't have someone at the tip top of the races skill curve to prepare against. He had like 90% back when Zerg were destroying protoss non-stop. He has since complained a LOT about the match up. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:21 Jacobs Ladder wrote: They're not bad, but I feel like there's a huge gap between them and protoss players like Parting, MC, Oz, and Genius. I mean, there's a reason IM players are historically weakest against Protoss, they just don't have someone at the tip top of the races skill curve to prepare against. Proof? Genius wasn't even considered great until this season. Oz is a bit overrated from what I've seen. | ||
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randomsaint
42 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:19 puzzl wrote: Whoever invented the term "eco cheese" needs to fall over and die. I am so sick of this fucking viewpoint that anything but a well balanced macro game where you don't attack before 200 supply and don't get too much of a single unit is "cheese." What a bunch of garbage. If you are going to post that shit, please just don't post at all, you have no idea what you are talking about and need to stop talking. Ok fine, how about incredibly greedy and risky and if someone has a good read on you then you deserve to lose? I never said anything about non "maxed army macro" games being cheese as well, calm the fuck down. Maybe if I said something like reactored hellion expand is cheese than this post would be warranted but as it is, MKP took a risk and paid the price. | ||
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puzzl
United States263 Posts
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
Proof? Genius wasn't even considered great until this season. Oz is a bit overrated from what I've seen. Genius was top notch way before this season, but felt into a long period of slump, anyways. hes one of the most valueable players in Team MVP, and won countless clutch matches for them. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:23 wklbishop wrote: I love how Parting has a secondary back up wall in his main. I mean, why not make use of their placements when you gotta put them down anyways. The main reason I've that some pros don't do that is it makes defending unexpected mutas harder. If you don't have blink you have to destroy a building to let your stalkers move more freely. I'm still like it though, I think its probably worth it 95% of games. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On February 13 2012 10:21 Jacobs Ladder wrote: He had like 90% back when Zerg were destroying protoss non-stop. He has since complained a LOT about the match up. Nestea complain about everything all the time even when he wins against everyone. It's just since it's Nestea, everyone forgive him for being so whiny. But he's VERY whiny. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
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sitromit
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