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On February 12 2012 10:55 Bashion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:50 Fenrax wrote: this has to be the one of the worst series ever played, completely abysmal play by both Ganzi doesnt deserve the win. Well, he does. But he played soooooooooooo bad. Three zealots killing an orbital. Not attacking when you are maxed and your opponent is on 150 supply. taking forever to upgrade his units.
Let's just agree that it was overall bad play by both players
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On February 12 2012 10:56 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:55 Bashion wrote:On February 12 2012 10:50 Fenrax wrote: this has to be the one of the worst series ever played, completely abysmal play by both Ganzi doesnt deserve the win. Well, he does. But he played soooooooooooo bad. Three zealots killing an orbital. Not attacking when you are maxed and your opponent is on 150 supply. taking forever to upgrade his units. Let's just agree that it was overall bad play by both players 
For sure.
No doubt about that. But Ganzi's mistakes were more evident.
Wait wait
did they just spoil every result?
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On February 12 2012 10:55 Bashion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:50 Fenrax wrote: this has to be the one of the worst series ever played, completely abysmal play by both Ganzi doesnt deserve the win. Well, he does. But he played soooooooooooo bad. Three zealots killing an orbital. Not attacking when you are maxed and your opponent is on 150 supply. taking forever to upgrade his units. Seriously? were you even watching alicia play? He constantly 1a's his whole army, he pulled his whole army for 3 marines which let ganzi get several collosus for free when alicia came back. In the biggest main engagement where ganzi was maxed with 6 full energy ghosts he sniped every ht , alicia backed into a corner and got his whole army emped, Early game he stayed on hold position by accident letting ganzis army get free shots for a long time, it wasnt saving charge caus of ff , he had archons so it was just a mistake. The first push ganzi did too alicia missed a ff, let ganzis army stream all the way through, trade nicely kill a collosus, and tons of workers. If anything this game is a perfect testament to how many mistakes you can make as P compared to T as long as you go double forge. (ganzi obviously did not play perfect, but if alicia played at that same level as a t or z the game wouldn't be close at all).
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United States97276 Posts
OMG!! San!!!! It's been so long. Please get back in the GSL. I missed your GSTL plays this year
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On February 12 2012 10:59 Nibbler89 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:55 Bashion wrote:On February 12 2012 10:50 Fenrax wrote: this has to be the one of the worst series ever played, completely abysmal play by both Ganzi doesnt deserve the win. Well, he does. But he played soooooooooooo bad. Three zealots killing an orbital. Not attacking when you are maxed and your opponent is on 150 supply. taking forever to upgrade his units. Seriously? were you even watching alicia play? He constantly 1a's his whole army, he pulled his whole army for 3 marines which let ganzi kill third / several collosus when alicia came back. In the biggest main engagement where ganzi was maxed with 6 full energy ghosts he sniped every ht , alicia backed into a corner and got his whole army emped, Early game he stayed on hold position by accident letting ganzis army get free shots for a long time, it wasnt saving charge caus of ff , he had archons so it was just a mistake. The first push ganzi did too alicia missed a ff, let ganzis army stream all the way through, trade nicely kill a collosus, and tons of workers. If anything this game is a perfect testament to how many mistakes you can make as P compared to T as long as you go double forge. (ganzi obviously did not play perfect, but if alicia played at that same level as a t or z the game wouldn't be close at all).
I didnt say Alicia play well at all. That doesnt exclude the fact that Ganzi played super bad.
Im sorry, but Ganzi lost a ton of scvs, lost an orbital for no reason. He missed emps when his arm attacked the third - Archons still had their shields up. You cant make any more mistakes than that. If he had played well, he would ve killed Alicia 10 minutes earlier, at least. Nice attempt to hide a balance whine tho.
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On February 12 2012 10:59 Nibbler89 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:55 Bashion wrote:On February 12 2012 10:50 Fenrax wrote: this has to be the one of the worst series ever played, completely abysmal play by both Ganzi doesnt deserve the win. Well, he does. But he played soooooooooooo bad. Three zealots killing an orbital. Not attacking when you are maxed and your opponent is on 150 supply. taking forever to upgrade his units. Seriously? were you even watching alicia play? He constantly 1a's his whole army, he pulled his whole army for 3 marines which let ganzi get several collosus for free when alicia came back. In the biggest main engagement where ganzi was maxed with 6 full energy ghosts he sniped every ht , alicia backed into a corner and got his whole army emped, Early game he stayed on hold position by accident letting ganzis army get free shots for a long time, it wasnt saving charge caus of ff , he had archons so it was just a mistake. The first push ganzi did too alicia missed a ff, let ganzis army stream all the way through, trade nicely kill a collosus, and tons of workers. If anything this game is a perfect testament to how many mistakes you can make as P compared to T as long as you go double forge. (ganzi obviously did not play perfect, but if alicia played at that same level as a t or z the game wouldn't be close at all). Alicias mistakes would be game ending mistakes as z or t this was incredibly close. I am glad I didnt watch this. O.o
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That reminded me of PvZ back in the day. Protoss seemingly does a ton worker damage only to get rolled by a huge army.
edit: Woohoo manzenith to MLG
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I never really understood why people do that build your very vulnerable to a counter  Killer had some really nice ff's though.
also wtf is the dial-upcore he's playing...
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On February 12 2012 11:12 JPoPP wrote:I never really understood why people do that build your very vulnerable to a counter  Killer had some really nice ff's though. also wtf is the dial-upcore he's playing...
The problem with that build is if you use all your graviton beams on workers, their army can just go and kill you :p
He got a forge, then a robo and expanded. I dont understand his build. He also over committed to phoenix what made his immortal transition to late.
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ManZenith ftw, I'm so glad to see him take that.
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I really don't understand how can Killer go for a proxy 2-gate while looking for a team. It fails 80% of the time against pros, and it makes you look so bad.
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Parting is gonna win this tourney, beat DRG in GSL, win his semifinal match, fly overnight to MLG's online arena, win that, fly back and win GSL the next day.
Calling it...
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United States97276 Posts
On February 12 2012 11:27 Kiyo. wrote:Parting is gonna win this tourney, beat DRG in GSL, win his semifinal match, fly overnight to MLG's online arena, win that, fly back and win GSL the next day. Calling it...  He has to be able to beat MC
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Is there a reason that (stimmed) Marines are never running directly next to sieged tanks where they are no longer in range?
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On February 12 2012 11:21 WigglingSquid wrote: I really don't understand how can Killer go for a proxy 2-gate while looking for a team. It fails 80% of the time against pros, and it makes you look so bad.
It can help put not only your current opponent on guard, but also future opponents since they know that you have, and are willing to do something like a proxy 2-gate.
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I am so fucking happy that San the man is back in business, its been way too long!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Why do the top 8 keep playing, is there some kind of prize for finishing higher?
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Is San qualified ? The new MLG format has that very nice touch that is MLG pay for eveything for qualified players, and this is amazing for Korean from "small" (small in business way, not talent way) teams who can participate and fly to MLG even if they're not called Boxer or MMA.
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Really disappointed theSTC made it through. He had an extremely easy bracket compared to the other players who made it through. Gumiho was the only top player he had to play.
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