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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 09 2012 12:23 GMT
#2841
On February 09 2012 21:21 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:17 Ruscour wrote:
the fact that this game lasted as long as it did makes me feel a little bit sick inside as a protoss player


6 pool failed? Np, ZvP is somewhat broken -.-



....


You actually get ahead with 6 pool vs forge first even when scouted...Catz vs Kiwikaka bo 31 taught me that :p
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
nofacej
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia164 Posts
February 09 2012 12:24 GMT
#2842
Wow that was really trippy. The observer switched from Nestea throwing down his third to Nestea's natural finishing, but the camera placement had both Hatcheries in exactly the same position on screen, so it looked like Nestea's third instantly finished.
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 12:24 GMT
#2843
On February 09 2012 21:22 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:20 SpunXtain wrote:
I really want Genius to get thru at the moment so Blizzard will realize that Protoss is a bit of a joke at the moment and hopefully nerf them. If 8 protoss start in code S and 4 make it to ro8 (with a couple of them eliminated mainly from PvP), maybe theyll realise and nerf them a bit. . .


Yeah it's fine when it's 6 terrans in the ro8 but if there were to be 4 toss that would mean the game is broken.


U don't understand. The number of players who start in Code S is representative of where the game was in previous seasons - they qualified a number of months ago and are still going through the 'choke' of Code S. The number who make it to Ro8 is a better indication of where the game is at NOW.

If 4/8 protoss make Ro8, thats 50% chance a protoss will make it to Ro8 when he enters the GSL. Compared to 1/9 Zergs (11%) and 3/15 terrans (20%), that's pretty indicative of racial imbalance. Sorry.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 09 2012 12:24 GMT
#2844
On February 09 2012 21:23 frucisky wrote:
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On February 09 2012 21:22 blacklist_member wrote:
Nestea y u not pick crossfire????

Because unlike Belshir, forcefields work well on crossfire

mutas are a free win though
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
February 09 2012 12:24 GMT
#2845
On February 09 2012 21:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
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On February 09 2012 21:22 PapaJed wrote:
Please refrain from using the word "retard" and "retarded" in the threads when describing something bad. It´s a discriminating term for anyone with an intellectual disability. I work with people with intellectual disabilities and it makes me sad seeing so many people using the term without thinking about what it means and how you by using the word insult these people. Thank You in advance!

What's an "intellectual" disability?

weird and gimmicky thing that sometimes make you look....

j/k go nestea!
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
February 09 2012 12:24 GMT
#2846
On February 09 2012 21:23 Addict wrote:
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On February 09 2012 21:22 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:19 Tarotis wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:18 rod- wrote:
hmm, mutas looked worthless against toss, why do they keep whining?

Maybe because Zegr can play a 20min game after 6pooling without dealing damage

Killing the forge and pylon not dealing damage?


Stop saying this.. No it isn't doing enough damage to justify a sixpool.. Nestea was behind from the moment that sixpool failed..

I'm not saying he's not behind, but he's not dead in the water....>_>


That guy said he did no damage.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
February 09 2012 12:24 GMT
#2847
On February 09 2012 21:24 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:22 PapaJed wrote:
Please refrain from using the word "retard" and "retarded" in the threads when describing something bad. It´s a discriminating term for anyone with an intellectual disability. I work with people with intellectual disabilities and it makes me sad seeing so many people using the term without thinking about what it means and how you by using the word insult these people. Thank You in advance!

What's an "intellectual" disability?

weird and gimmicky thing that sometimes make you look....

j/k go nestea!

it makes you look non intellectual
Stork[gm]
Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
February 09 2012 12:24 GMT
#2848
This game was acctually sad... Nestea goes double spire vs toss on phoenix... gets rofl stomped... even without this stupid antimuta plane browder wants to implement to replace carrier... i hope someone at blizzards hq recognizes this - toss can stop muta by building own air even without shitty replacement for carrier - sad that Nestea was not going roach hydra otherwise it might be win - this way it was BO win for toss.
icecreamlolz
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
February 09 2012 12:25 GMT
#2849
On February 09 2012 21:23 Kommander wrote:
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On February 09 2012 21:20 SpunXtain wrote:
I really want Genius to get thru at the moment so Blizzard will realize that Protoss is a bit of a joke at the moment and hopefully nerf them. If 8 protoss start in code S and 4 make it to ro8 (with a couple of them eliminated mainly from PvP), maybe theyll realise and nerf them a bit. . .


You do realize you're making yourself look stupid with this post....

you could almost say his comment is a bit gimmicky..
kk, enough with that.
mcbosstossgsl2012season1<3
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 09 2012 12:25 GMT
#2850
On February 09 2012 21:24 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:23 frucisky wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:22 blacklist_member wrote:
Nestea y u not pick crossfire????

Because unlike Belshir, forcefields work well on crossfire

mutas are a free win though


What I was thinking. Nestea's weird and gimmicky build last game would have worked ok on Crossfire
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 09 2012 12:25 GMT
#2851
On February 09 2012 21:24 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:22 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:20 SpunXtain wrote:
I really want Genius to get thru at the moment so Blizzard will realize that Protoss is a bit of a joke at the moment and hopefully nerf them. If 8 protoss start in code S and 4 make it to ro8 (with a couple of them eliminated mainly from PvP), maybe theyll realise and nerf them a bit. . .


Yeah it's fine when it's 6 terrans in the ro8 but if there were to be 4 toss that would mean the game is broken.


U don't understand. The number of players who start in Code S is representative of where the game was in previous seasons - they qualified a number of months ago and are still going through the 'choke' of Code S. The number who make it to Ro8 is a better indication of where the game is at NOW.

If 4/8 protoss make Ro8, thats 50% chance a protoss will make it to Ro8 when he enters the GSL. Compared to 1/9 Zergs (11%) and 3/15 terrans (20%), that's pretty indicative of racial imbalance. Sorry.


It's not indicative of anything and this is not a fucking balance thread so take this crap somewhere else.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
February 09 2012 12:25 GMT
#2852
On February 09 2012 21:21 Addict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:20 Canas wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:19 Tarotis wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:18 rod- wrote:
hmm, mutas looked worthless against toss, why do they keep whining?

Maybe because Zegr can play a 20min game after 6pooling without dealing damage


Forcing a one base opening and delaying tech is not "without dealing damage", not even close.


Are you really saying Nestea wasn't behind after that sixpool, REALLY?


No?

He was behind, but he wasn't in a position you can't recover from. I believe he had 8 or 9 drones when his zerglings popped, and he made pure drones once he'd made those 6 lings, he killed 1 probe, 1 pylon and the forge, as well as forcing a cannon, and 450 minerals in the early game is A LOT.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
February 09 2012 12:25 GMT
#2853
On February 09 2012 21:22 Seeker wrote:
NesTea
vs
Genius

on Bel'shir Beach Winter

NesTea at bottom right

Genius at top left

First 5 minutes

Genius opens up FFE

NesTea going pool
NesTea grabbing his expansion now

Genius puts up a cannon
Genius putting up his cyber

NesTea grabbing his 3rd


5 - 10 minutes

Genius with stargate

NesTea with 2 gas

Genius brings out a void ray

NesTea grabbing speed and spore
NesTea getting +1 range attack

Genius getting a ton of phoenix
Genius grabs a queen then backs off
Genius getting a robo
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
February 09 2012 12:25 GMT
#2854
On February 09 2012 21:23 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:21 Mentalizor wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:17 Ruscour wrote:
the fact that this game lasted as long as it did makes me feel a little bit sick inside as a protoss player


6 pool failed? Np, ZvP is somewhat broken -.-



....


You actually get ahead with 6 pool vs forge first even when scouted...Catz vs Kiwikaka bo 31 taught me that :p


That doesn't fix it... The zerg will have 7 drones vs 16'ish probes... To kill 1 pylon and 1 forge doesn't justify being down more than 50% of the workers
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 09 2012 12:26 GMT
#2855
Genius's play is really inspiring
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
February 09 2012 12:26 GMT
#2856
On February 09 2012 21:25 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:24 Tarotis wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:23 frucisky wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:22 blacklist_member wrote:
Nestea y u not pick crossfire????

Because unlike Belshir, forcefields work well on crossfire

mutas are a free win though


What I was thinking. Nestea's weird and gimmicky build last game would have worked ok on Crossfire


But you know how he would have looked like if he failed with mutas
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
February 09 2012 12:26 GMT
#2857
On February 09 2012 21:20 SpunXtain wrote:
I really want Genius to get thru at the moment so Blizzard will realize that Protoss is a bit of a joke at the moment and hopefully nerf them. If 8 protoss start in code S and 4 make it to ro8 (with a couple of them eliminated mainly from PvP), maybe theyll realise and nerf them a bit. . .


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_October/Code_S
icecreamlolz
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
February 09 2012 12:26 GMT
#2858
isnt that the map genius manhandled drg on? :D
mcbosstossgsl2012season1<3
PapaJed
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden211 Posts
February 09 2012 12:26 GMT
#2859
On February 09 2012 21:24 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:24 dmnum wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:22 PapaJed wrote:
Please refrain from using the word "retard" and "retarded" in the threads when describing something bad. It´s a discriminating term for anyone with an intellectual disability. I work with people with intellectual disabilities and it makes me sad seeing so many people using the term without thinking about what it means and how you by using the word insult these people. Thank You in advance!

What's an "intellectual" disability?

weird and gimmicky thing that sometimes make you look....

j/k go nestea!

it makes you look non intellectual



Hehe, thank You Sir ;-)
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
February 09 2012 12:26 GMT
#2860
On February 09 2012 21:24 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:22 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:20 SpunXtain wrote:
I really want Genius to get thru at the moment so Blizzard will realize that Protoss is a bit of a joke at the moment and hopefully nerf them. If 8 protoss start in code S and 4 make it to ro8 (with a couple of them eliminated mainly from PvP), maybe theyll realise and nerf them a bit. . .


Yeah it's fine when it's 6 terrans in the ro8 but if there were to be 4 toss that would mean the game is broken.


U don't understand. The number of players who start in Code S is representative of where the game was in previous seasons - they qualified a number of months ago and are still going through the 'choke' of Code S. The number who make it to Ro8 is a better indication of where the game is at NOW.

If 4/8 protoss make Ro8, thats 50% chance a protoss will make it to Ro8 when he enters the GSL. Compared to 1/9 Zergs (11%) and 3/15 terrans (20%), that's pretty indicative of racial imbalance. Sorry.


Or it could just indicate that the toss players have been outplaying their opponents.
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