Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.

MrKn4rz

Germany2153 Posts

November 20 2011 21:53 GMT

#8801

Is this a Bo5?

Desert Fox

United States352 Posts

November 20 2011 21:53 GMT

#8802

Yeah, I'm going to reiterate that the usual whiny posters who complain about imbalance or some other stupid fucking thing as to why their player lost have decided to use the terms "allin", "all-in" and "all in" now as a loaded word for what they really want to do.

ShynZ

331 Posts

November 20 2011 21:53 GMT

#8803

have to say. mvp's mech against zerg is pretty strong

TheResidentEvil

United States991 Posts

November 20 2011 21:53 GMT

#8804

no this is BO3

Corrosive

Canada3741 Posts

November 20 2011 21:53 GMT

#8805

MVP the destroyer

chatuka

1351 Posts

November 20 2011 21:53 GMT

#8806

On November 21 2011 06:50 kslghost wrote:
I do think MLG needs to rethink it's championship tournament format. It is INCREDIBLY biased towards the championship bracket players. At least force them to do pool play for seeding - it still gives them a big advantage and seeds still matter. The fact that a player who never won an MLG this season can simply win the championship in potentially as few as 6 wins vs. the completely ridiculous number an open bracket player has to play through is kind of crazy. Allowing open players to earn the right to get into the late championship bracket by winning the open brackets and dominating pool play was the redeeming factor in the tournament structure anyways.

but you saw 3 out of the 4 seeds got taken out.. It seems illogical to say this, but it seems that the MLG favors the NONE-seeded players. Because the none seeded players get EXPERIENCe.. they get to heat up and play at beast mode for whatever length is necessary....

While, the seeded players are just big targets for the hot player in the open bracket...

This always happens in the NFL or MLB... the wildcard getting hot and take out the regular season champion..

But I do agree that the MLG format needs to be tweaked.. The seeded players should be ABLE to CHOOSE the maps against the none seeded players.

Hierarch

United States2197 Posts

November 20 2011 21:53 GMT

#8807

On November 21 2011 06:51 YodaGoneMad wrote:

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Exactly, at least the other guys have participated in MLG in some way. Anyway, just funny to call it the GRAND CHAMPIONSHIP OMG when a guy who never played at MLG can just come and take all the money.

There;s an open bracket, That guy that came, earned his way there. The other players were rewarded for their previous MLG's by being seeded higher. There's a reason Nani could win this tournament with 4 match wins.

Shurayuki

Germany2665 Posts

November 20 2011 21:54 GMT

#8808

On November 21 2011 06:50 chatuka wrote:

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I think people have a point.. It should be very difficult for Open bracket none seeded players to advance...

seedd players should be able to choose the maps.., is one way of giving advantage to the seeded players..

It's not like i'm particularly fond of the MLG system (totally not), it's just that you get people here screaming how it's totally unfair to open bracket players because they have to play so much and then in the end, now we get people saying 'it's way to easy for open bracket players'

no matter what MLG does TL will shit all over their system (mainly judging by how their favorite player just performs)

kslghost

246 Posts

November 20 2011 21:54 GMT

#8809

Zerg players have held off these hellions pretty well in Korea for a while now. It's just an abnormality when it is quite this effective nowadays.

shz

Germany2687 Posts

November 20 2011 21:54 GMT

#8810

On November 21 2011 06:53 MrKn4rz wrote:
Is this a Bo5?

Bo3.

zmansman17

United States2567 Posts

November 20 2011 21:54 GMT

#8811

On November 21 2011 06:51 Mozdk wrote:

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Funny shit!

me likey

Lavi

Bangladesh793 Posts

November 20 2011 21:54 GMT

#8812

On November 21 2011 06:50 StarStruck wrote:

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On November 21 2011 06:45 Qaatar wrote:

On November 21 2011 06:38 Dreamer.T wrote:

On November 21 2011 06:35 Caddy wrote:

On November 21 2011 06:31 HowardRoark wrote:
How come MVP doesn't have any fans? Being the best player in the world ought to count for something, and earn him some fans? If MKP or Huk would have been the best, they would have tons of fans. It is a bit weird, he is always well-spoken, doesn't cheat and don't cheese, he is pure talent, but still, as he said himself, he doesn't have many fans.

He definitely has fans, judging by this thread alone, but there's maybe a bunch of reasons why he isn't the most popular with the fans.

First of all, he is the best. He'll get huge respect for that, definitely, but people like underdogs. People also don't like to see the same person win everything.

Secondly, he doesn't show emotion. I actually quite like that, because it's very professional and it means he can keep calm and not play on tilt. However, that lack of emotion doesn't translate well to fans. Fans like when you can see how much a win / loss means to a player.

I think it's the same in any sport, really.

I do think MVP has a huge amount of respect though. I'm a Protoss fanboy but I'll openly admit MVP is a fantastic player. You don't get that good by just being lucky.

I'd like to add, that Flash (the greatest RTS gamer in history) also went through the same things as MVP. During his reign, when no one could beat him, people were actually joking he might destroy e-sports because of how boring the scene had become. It's the same thing with MVP.

The difference with Flash and MVP (apart from Flash being an RTS genius) is that people universally acknowledge Flash to be the greatest player of his era, and arguably the greatest BW player ever (and some would argue, like me, that he's the greatest RTS player in history).

As you can see in this thread, there are people who think MVP isn't even the best T in the world. Huge difference. It's a fucking joke, because there's no denying that MVP is the greatest SC2 Terran to date.

Nor has he been as dominant as a guy like Flash. This is why calling someone the best in SC2 right now is silly especially when the lines are just going to continue to blur.

... and the fact that bw and sc2 is two different games. and created by 2 different development teams. Can't really compare mvp to flash because this simple reason... but right now I do think mvp is best sc2 player yes

MVTaylor

United Kingdom2893 Posts

November 20 2011 21:54 GMT

#8813

On November 21 2011 06:53 red4ce wrote:
MVP so sick. First against Haypro and now against Leenock. I can't believe he's making BFH work despite the nerf. Even SlayerS abandoned this style of TvZ.

errrr, what

BFH is immensely useable