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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

Stop with the USA USA chant shit. Further offenses beyond page 493 will be met with bans. You've been warned.
Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17701
On October 10 2011 12:09 Lasbike wrote:
What stephano did during all the IPL season 3 (3 months)

Stephano 2-0 Anypro
Stephano 2-1 Axslav
Stephano 2-1 MarineKing
Stephano 2-1 Socke
Stephano 2-1 Revival
Stephano 2-0 Puzzle
Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-1 MMA
Stephano 2-0 Huk
Stephano 2-0 Boxer

Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-0 Violet
Stephano 2-1 Inori
Stephano 3-1 TheStC
Stephano 4-0 Lucky



Can we please stop counting matches played between players 6000 miles away? Stephano's good and all but you don't need to overplay his achievements, let them speak for themselves. It's Lucky's first real tournament alongside his teammate Inori, and when the hell did TheStC last compete?
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17702
On October 10 2011 12:13 Shodaa wrote:
BTW, does that mean that Stephano gets a Code S spot ?

No, but he does get a spot in the Blizzard cup I believe.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17703
On October 10 2011 12:13 ninjamyst wrote:
just look at how well mannered Lucky is compared to Stephano...


All the Koreans are seemingly very humble like that though
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
flojito
Profile Joined February 2011
136 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17704
On October 10 2011 12:10 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:06 Daniel C wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:04 msjakofsky wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:02 Daniel C wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:00 msjakofsky wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:58 Daniel C wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:56 ODieN wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:54 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:53 marvin. wrote:
where are all the comments about ZvZ being a coinflip now

lol a foreigner is winning, of course its not a coin flip now if Lucky was up 3-0 this thread would be filled with complaints about ZvZ coin flip etc.

False, "3-0" isn't a coinflip regardless who's winning, 1-1/2-2/3-3 would be coinflips.


Well, if it was truly a coinflip there would still be a 25% total chance of getting 3-0 or 0-3, so...



12,5% chance for a 3-0 if it's completely random and each player has an 50% to counter the other's build


Hence 25% for 3-0 or 0-3


nope... 12,5% for one player winning 3-0, it's not counted separately


Yup, so there's 25% chance of either 3-0 or 0-3.



do you really not understand?

there is 50% chance that 1 player will counter the other in 1 match

in 1 match if we flip the coins, there is 25% chance that they'll be both heads, 25% both tails and 50% for heads-tails- that includes both cases you're mentioning.

with the same logic it's 50%*50%*50% in three matches, all possible outcomes included that's 12,5% not 25%


You are completely misunderstanding the other guy's point. He is saying that, if we assume that a ZvZ really is a coinflip, there is 25% chance that one of the two players will be up 3-0 after three games. This is 100% true.

Here is a more concrete example. Suppose that we say that the games between Lucky and Stephano were just coinflips (I know they weren't and Lucky got outplayed, but just assume that for now). Then there is a 12.5% chance that Stephano wins the first 3 games, and a 12.5% chance that Lucky wins the first 3 games. That means there is a 12.5% + 12.5% = 25% chance that one of the two will be up 3-0.
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17705
lol david ting is so nervous
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17706
On October 10 2011 12:14 poor newb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:13 sashamunguia wrote:
I'm not sure why, but this final was way much pleasant than most of GSL 4-0 finals :D


because it's not tvtvtvt top 4

more that its because a foreigner won
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Dietch
Profile Joined August 2010
France45 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17707
Haters gonna hate anyway, just let them trolling.
The Internet keep the moronic comments they make and we'll be able to throw it to their face in a year when Stephano will stop playing.
A man's gonna do what a man's gonna do !
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17708
love it, award ceremonies are always just slightly awkward lol. go stephano!
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17709
Koreans are so well mannered, they always show such great respect. I love it.
LiOn
Profile Joined December 2002
Austria239 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17710
Awesum! Keep it up IPL and Stephano!
진지해? ^_^
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17711
On October 10 2011 12:13 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:11 mrtomjones wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:07 Ruscour wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:04 c0ldfusion wrote:
Un-f'in-believable ... somebody send Stephano to Korea asap

Stephano beat the following Korean Code S players: HuK who is in a heavy slump
Stephano beat the following Korean Code A players: viOlet

yeah...he's not the new foreign hope like everyone's jizzing he is, sorry

a big win, but are we gonna see this kid win Code S? at the very least not for 6 months

Don't think Huk was playing seriously in the round robin there... carriers were an odd choice if so. Stephano beat theSTC who is a very strong korean so yes he is VERY good.

he played Huk in the championship bracket too, and TheStC is Code B...sure he's good, Inori and Lucky are good to, I'm just saying he doesn't stand a chance against the likes of MVP, everyone with a brain knows this, mainly aiming this at some of the more ridiculous comments in this thread


He beat Huk 2-0 at HSC3 too
DJams
Profile Joined May 2011
United States447 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17712
so, so , very awkward ceremony???
usa#1
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#17713
is it me or does the translater seem kind of overwhelmed. It almost makes me feel like Lucky said in korean "Stephano was horrible and I should have beat him, losing to him makes me want to kill myself" Translater "....*subtle chuckle*.... he says stephano is very good and he's grateful to be here"
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
October 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#17714
Dear IGN,

Congratulations, you have made an amazing tournament, great players, casters, games! Everything!!
Great job, great production, good game!

Stephano FIGHTING!!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
xOff
Profile Joined October 2010
United States247 Posts
October 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#17715
Congratz on the win. >
Anything can be accomplished through sheer discipline.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:15:31
October 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#17716
On October 10 2011 12:14 Ownos wrote:
Stephano takes IPL3 with 10+ Koreans attending. Lucky goes further then he ever expected and surprised so many people. Inori upsets and shows amazing PvP. Both going farther than they thought. WhiteRa warp prism special tactics. Terran too good.

And Justin Wong takes 2 championships at Devastation.

ESPORTS


You are seriously forgetting TheStC? He did better than any expected too. :p
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
October 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#17717
Pretty pathetic forum display as per par. Esports is esports, hating on one over another is stupid. Thinking SC2 is that much more deserving/better than LoL or any other game....

What do you think the BW pros think of SC2?
the farm ends here
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
October 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#17718
$30,000 trophy?! nice.
o_O
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
October 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#17719
On October 10 2011 12:13 KingLori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:11 ClysmiC wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:10 00Visor wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:09 ClysmiC wrote:
Stephano is going to MLG, awesome!

Who said that?

Twitter said that!

http://twitter.com/#!/MillStephano


Stephano has no twitter...

He made it today, after the panel discussion.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:17:30
October 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#17720
On October 10 2011 12:14 Daniel C wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:10 msjakofsky wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:06 Daniel C wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:04 msjakofsky wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:02 Daniel C wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:00 msjakofsky wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:58 Daniel C wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:56 ODieN wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:54 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 10 2011 11:53 marvin. wrote:
where are all the comments about ZvZ being a coinflip now

lol a foreigner is winning, of course its not a coin flip now if Lucky was up 3-0 this thread would be filled with complaints about ZvZ coin flip etc.

False, "3-0" isn't a coinflip regardless who's winning, 1-1/2-2/3-3 would be coinflips.


Well, if it was truly a coinflip there would still be a 25% total chance of getting 3-0 or 0-3, so...



12,5% chance for a 3-0 if it's completely random and each player has an 50% to counter the other's build


Hence 25% for 3-0 or 0-3


nope... 12,5% for one player winning 3-0, it's not counted separately


Yup, so there's 25% chance of either 3-0 or 0-3.





do you really not understand?

there is 50% chance that 1 player will counter the other in 1 match

in 1 match if we flip the coins, there is 25% chance that they'll be both heads, 25% both tails and 50% for heads-tails- that includes both cases you're mentioning.

with the same logic it's 50%*50%*50% in three matches, all possible outcomes included that's 12,5% not 25%


Ok thanks for explaining

So what you're saying its 12.5% chance for 3-0?

What's the chance for 0-3?


half of that, since the 12,5% includes both cases. so there was a 6,25% that player 1 hardcounters the other and 6,25% that player 2 hardcounters player 1

of course that's not realistic measure since both of them can use like 10 different openings and not exactly half of those hardcounter each other, and the chance of them choosing one build is not random
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