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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 13:49:42
October 21 2011 13:49 GMT
#1061
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
October 21 2011 13:49 GMT
#1062
On October 21 2011 22:48 mookfr wrote:
Lol this harpner is gold league or what ?

http://sc2ranks.com/eu/665598/Harpner

GM on Euro, but his PvZ seems very very lackluster.
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
October 21 2011 13:49 GMT
#1063
I set up the stream on my TV. Then IdrA stomps him that quick lol
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 13:51:12
October 21 2011 13:50 GMT
#1064
Wouldnt be surprised if nerfs played a role as well.
Obviousl IdrA was the clear favored, but I cant imagine that was Harpner's best play considering that he is in the tournament to begin with.
Always look on the bright side of life
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 21 2011 13:51 GMT
#1065
On October 21 2011 22:49 Za7oX wrote:
I set up the stream on my TV. Then IdrA stomps him that quick lol


LOL oh dear

Oh well, maybe blizzcon on your TV will be better
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TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 21 2011 13:51 GMT
#1066
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.


I completely agree with your last statement. There is a huge skill gap between GM players and top pros.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Koorb
Profile Joined March 2011
France266 Posts
October 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1067
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.


It is the very purpose of a World Cup: having qualifiers meant to have players from all around the world. Indeed, that mean that there can be some gap of level between the competitors, but it will be basically the same thing with WCG.

WCG and ESWC and MLG/IEM/IPL are really two different kinds of event, they don't have the same purpose.
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TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1068
Jarlaxle vs Sjow on shout craft right now.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
exltus
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic100 Posts
October 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1069
On October 21 2011 22:49 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 22:48 mookfr wrote:
Lol this harpner is gold league or what ?

http://sc2ranks.com/eu/665598/Harpner

GM on Euro, but his PvZ seems very very lackluster.

It is best player in czech republic... with wery good mechanics, but vs idra was trying chees because he own say, that he is is too outclass of idra to play clasic game
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
October 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1070
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.

arent those players from qualifiers? cant really do much if the competition in those qualifiers wasnt high.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
October 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1071
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.


I don't think people should defend the players but most larger tournaments have it like this or worse. I don't think there is anything wrong with it. You don't want to see what happen through open bracket at MLG, especially at the earlier rounds.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
October 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1072
let's see some bregan d'aerthe shit
nightsh
Profile Joined August 2011
France135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 13:53:09
October 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1073
Are all of the group matches played today ?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 21 2011 13:54 GMT
#1074
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.


It's supposed to be a world cup kind of thing, there were qualifiers for a bunch of countries/regions
TazzDingo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany502 Posts
October 21 2011 13:55 GMT
#1075
On October 21 2011 22:52 nightsh wrote:
Are all of the group matches played today ?

some group play will be tomorrow.
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
October 21 2011 13:56 GMT
#1076
zzz tb totally missing the drop
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
October 21 2011 13:56 GMT
#1077
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.


Well... I don't think there are many of us that would defend players like Harpner or some of the other unknowns. But defending native players goes both ways... alot of american players get way too much praise. That being said, this kinda looks like a very mixed bag of players.... some of them are probably at their first big tournament also... I bet there is alot of nerves. If you remember huk at his first LAN he played quite below his level.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 21 2011 13:56 GMT
#1078
On October 21 2011 22:54 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.


It's supposed to be a world cup kind of thing, there were qualifiers for a bunch of countries/regions


Now it makes sense. I was not aware that there were qualifiers.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
October 21 2011 13:57 GMT
#1079
On October 21 2011 22:48 Mycl wrote:
Well after watching that series of Idra vs Harpner I only have the 1 question. What the hell went wrong Cloud:/

According to Predy, Harpner has very strong pvt
I have no quote!
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 13:57:43
October 21 2011 13:57 GMT
#1080
On October 21 2011 22:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I know how much europeans love to defend their native unknown players, but damn a lot of these players just don't deserve to be in the main bracket... the brackets themselves are just too big. Just because you're GM doesn't mean you're a pro gamer.


If you only invite the fevorite you would never see any new commers would you. The sc2 scene would stagnate then..



And btw I think all had to qualify
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