EPTESWC 2011 Grand Finals - Page 137
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lacho_u
Bulgaria535 Posts
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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
How is it possible to have people who still ask for the bracket??? /ontopic Thorzain vs Stephano would be a great match! But i hope Cloud manages to go through, because his winrate vs the french zerg monster is pretty bad. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:45 lacho_u wrote: i', sorry is there anywhere bracket ??????? only find groups, liquipedia also is just participants list thanks in advance. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Electronic_Sports_World_Cup_2011/Main_Tournament | ||
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:38 CutthroatCollapse wrote: The chances that the best two players make it to the grand finals is usually no that low. and they definitly are the best two players of the tournament. Although Idra and Stephano are not too far behind at the moment Think of it this way. A player's margin of advantage over another player can be quantified in statistical terms (and often is). If the gap is small, then MC vs. a top foreigner in a Bo3 might be something like 70-30. If that is the case, then MC's chances of making it through the entire bracket from the Ro16 is 0.7^3, or roughly 34.3%. The chances of MKP getting through is similar. The chances of MC and MKP both making it through is the product of their chances, or 0.343*0.343 ~ 11.8%, or roughly 1 in 10. You don't roll 1 in 10 very often, so each tournament that it happens in shows that the gap is a lot larger than assumed. | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:45 lacho_u wrote: i', sorry is there anywhere bracket ??????? only find groups, liquipedia also is just participants list thanks in advance. Might want to click at "Main Tournament" in liqui, just a suggestion though... | ||
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kaetor
New Zealand292 Posts
Edit: he changed his hotkeys now | ||
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:45 lacho_u wrote: i', sorry is there anywhere bracket ??????? only find groups, liquipedia also is just participants list thanks in advance. Go to the liquipedia page and select main tournament tab at the top | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
I asked GoOdy about it. He said the change doesn't really matter that much. Hellions were never to deal damage in engagements but soak up marauder damage and they still do so. In harassment it matters a bit, but you can win with mech without 60+ scv kills. Also he's very happy everyone playes bio against him again ;D! | ||
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lacho_u
Bulgaria535 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:45 HaXXspetten wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Electronic_Sports_World_Cup_2011/Main_Tournament thx dude | ||
Poopi
France12891 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:42 mTw|NarutO wrote: Bomber said SjoW TvT is Code S level. His mech can beat MKP ;-) Not sure he will today, but certainly possible Lol. SjoW struggled against MakaPrime who nearly trolled him. MarineKingPrime is not MakaPrime... Don't overestimate SjoW, and it would be pretty sad for TvT that a mech player with 100ish apm can beat a world class terran. | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:45 mTw|NarutO wrote: I asked GoOdy about it. He said the change doesn't really matter that much. Hellions were never to deal damage in engagements but soak up marauder damage and they still do so. In harassment it matters a bit, but you can win with mech without 60+ scv kills. Also he's very happy everyone playes bio against him again ;D! tell MVP that mech is still viable  see what he says | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:47 vndods wrote: tell MVP that mech is still viable see what he says Maybe GoOdy is better with mech. He also beat MVPs Bio using mech :s | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:48 mTw|NarutO wrote: Maybe GoOdy is better with mech. He also beat MVPs Bio using mech :s hahahaha, i highly doubt it. | ||
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:48 mTw|NarutO wrote: Maybe GoOdy is better with mech. He also beat MVPs Bio using mech :s Bold claim. When was this btw? | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:48 mTw|NarutO wrote: Maybe GoOdy is better with mech. He also beat MVPs Bio using mech :s haha true true, GoOdy does use mech alot more, probably  | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:47 Poopi wrote: Lol. SjoW struggled against MakaPrime who nearly trolled him. MarineKingPrime is not MakaPrime... Don't overestimate SjoW, and it would be pretty sad for TvT that a mech player with 100ish apm can beat a world class terran. GoOdy ~80 APM > MVP .. even though he lost 1-3. This is bo3 , 2 wins are possible. I'm not overrating anyone and I'm a MKP fan, but I'm not being a retard calling someone out before the match started. Its so easy to lose a Starcraft 2 game even to a inferior player. SjoW is inferior and I'm aware of that, but he's certainly no "lol MKP will win without monitor" People should stop thinking that way. | ||
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Poopi
France12891 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:47 vndods wrote: tell MVP that mech is still viable see what he says Mvp is probably the best marine/tank-er (at least he was) but maybe he can only play mech now because of his CTS? It's pretty sad but MMA is a great bio player so if Mvp can't play his best the GSL final happens, that doesn't mean that mech isn't good. Plus Mvp played in blizzcon before the final, and if that doesn't matter for any korean player, it matters I guess for someone who has CTS. edit : to Naruto : I don't think that MKP will beat SjoW without a monitor, I'm a bit afraid for him because his TvT is not his TvZ and a bo3 can be lost easily, but you said it a bit like "SjoW can beat MKP easily look Bomber said he has code S level tvt". I probably read too much in the "can", a "could" is better for a foreigner against a korean imo | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Geforce tournament. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On October 22 2011 22:47 vndods wrote: tell MVP that mech is still viable see what he says GSL spoiler: + Show Spoiler + Do you want to judge based in the GSL final today? MMA was just the better player, he played really brilliantly and didn't make any mistakes in the games he won. MMA even said that he lost all his games in practice vs mech:p | ||
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