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cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#301
On June 13 2011 10:59 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 10:57 Teoyaomqui wrote:
When you're used to watching the GSL this is pretty painful...


Well the Ro8 GSL games were almost as bad. At least 2 of them were.

Alicias were pretty bad, but line played decently for the most part, and MKP obliterated thebest, but we will probably never see thebest again, i doubt he will ever requalify.

Alicia's could be stacked up to nerves, but if we are talking about overall in terms of quality, it isnt even a comparison. Not to mention production value as well but thats a different story.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
June 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#302
On June 13 2011 10:59 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 10:57 Teoyaomqui wrote:
When you're used to watching the GSL this is pretty painful...


Well the Ro8 GSL games were almost as bad. At least 2 of them were.


And lets not forget NesTea vs inCa, god those where painful to watch.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 02:02:53
June 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#303
nonys problem is that his early game builds put him really far behind if the game goes into the midd-lategame, he doesnt like chrono'ing his probes much and he exps alot later than the usual exp timings
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
June 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#304
On June 13 2011 10:51 SSLPrism wrote:
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On June 13 2011 10:47 Sc1pio wrote:
On June 13 2011 10:46 Demand2k wrote:
This Xeris guy sounds pretty clueless in some areas. Terran having good map control with mech? Come on...


Yeah mech is pretty bad vs. protoss.


I wouldnt say its bad, certainly not the best option, but very useful in certain situations.



No, mech is bad vs p, for a lot of reasons. Thor/hellion had some promise, but blizz pretty much killed that build when they added energy back to the thors.

Siege tanks are pretty much useless once charge is out. It was interesting to hear that Gretorp wants them back at a level of damage that makes sense for the unit. The damage modifier and rate of fire is what kills the unit. Both speedlings and chargelots are way too cost effective against them.
obesemk
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway267 Posts
June 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#305
Incontrol stopped casting alltogether in the NASL? Why?
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#306
iNcontroL is sick...
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 13 2011 02:03 GMT
#307
On June 13 2011 11:02 TT1 wrote:
nonys problem is that his early game builds put him really far behind when the game goes into the midd-lategame, he doesnt like chrono'ing his probes much and he exps alot later than the usual exp timings

I agree, his expo timings seem really late, i guess you could call that "safe" but the current meta game is favouring faster expo's

Although tyler going for the early expo this game.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 13 2011 02:03 GMT
#308
He can cancel the nexus and go back up the ramp.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
June 13 2011 02:04 GMT
#309
On June 13 2011 11:02 obesemk wrote:
Incontrol stopped casting alltogether in the NASL? Why?


Got sick at MLG, along with a thousand other people from the sound of it.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#310
Uuuuuugggghhhh tyler
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
June 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#311
Painful =\
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
June 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#312
sick defense from tyler. low sentry count now though.
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#313
Nice hold by tyler, regardless of losing those sentries hes in a pretty decent position.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
June 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#314
That was the best Tyler could do with the build order difference.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#315
On June 13 2011 11:02 Xeris wrote:
iNcontroL is sick...



If people followed his stream this week, he sounds like shit.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
June 13 2011 02:07 GMT
#316
Really dislike the build, guess tyler thought he could hold that kind of pressure, and he did but he lost a ton of gas worth in sentries.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
June 13 2011 02:07 GMT
#317
In my experience, storm>terran upgrades in terms of builds.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
June 13 2011 02:07 GMT
#318
On June 13 2011 11:03 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 11:02 TT1 wrote:
nonys problem is that his early game builds put him really far behind when the game goes into the midd-lategame, he doesnt like chrono'ing his probes much and he exps alot later than the usual exp timings

I agree, his expo timings seem really late, i guess you could call that "safe" but the current meta game is favouring faster expo's

Although tyler going for the early expo this game.


yea but there are alot of builds that allow u to be safe while exping pretty early aswell, not as safe as the styles that hes playing but hes handicapping himself if his oppo plays standard
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 13 2011 02:07 GMT
#319
And there's the all-in call!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 02:08:44
June 13 2011 02:08 GMT
#320
On June 13 2011 11:03 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 11:02 TT1 wrote:
nonys problem is that his early game builds put him really far behind when the game goes into the midd-lategame, he doesnt like chrono'ing his probes much and he exps alot later than the usual exp timings

I agree, his expo timings seem really late, i guess you could call that "safe" but the current meta game is favouring faster expo's

Although tyler going for the early expo this game.


did you call me a bad caster and mis-use the term meta game?

popular trends in strategy =/= metagame
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