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We will be moderating harshly in this thread. Think twice before you post. Things we are watching for: image macros, balance whining, "eagles", player bashing etc. We encourage civil and reasoned critique of our moderation - please post it in the website feedback forum.

Please don't complain about MLG stream quality or MLG itself. They work very hard to provide you with an enjoyable service.

Enough with the racism discussions, this is a LR Thread. Cut it out.
-- updated 7:55 KST
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8341
Thozain's immaculate Ghost control shuts down MC's Templar play to win G3. Thorzain is now down 2-1 in the extended series.


YES
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8342
Thorzain vs MC starting on Taldarim (the site of the epic epic epic game from TSL 3) Thorzain took game 1 but is still 2-1 down in extended series
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8343
Not streaming thorizan vs MC? what's the point of 2 streams : /
yiodee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States137 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8344
Noo Thorzain vs MC rematch should be casted, dammit MLG step up on your game
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8345
On June 06 2011 02:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:49 J1.au wrote:
This is the first time I have watched SC2. Hilarious.


Well to be frank the quality of games this MLG has been very good.

Game 2 didn't make sense to me at all. Was it normal?
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8346
On June 06 2011 02:54 Tieru wrote:
MMA's reaction to Idra's Game 1 exit.

[image loading]


LOL

This will go down as one of the biggest blunders/question marks in sc2 history of all time.
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8347
On June 06 2011 02:52 Sajimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:48 cascades wrote:
Many viewers make the mistake that players can see everything we do.
IDRA DOES NOT HAVE OBS VIEW
- He does not know MMA killed his own OC
- He did not actively scout for a 3rd
- He realised that MMA army was > than 2 base economy
- He assumed incorrectly that MMA push was not a desperate all-in from that OC cancel, but a calculated decision.
- Idra assumed incorrectly that MMA was making a 4th base AND has enough scvs to transfer over
- Based on this and MMA's very successful drop, Idra has 0% chance of a comeback assuming his assumptions are correct.

Idra had seen the third being built at the gold with his mutas.... He can put 2 and 2 together.

Nah, that doesn't even matter. You don't quit when you think you can't win if the other guy plays perfectly. You quit when you think you can't win even if the other guy screws up. Until then, you keep playing, because hey, maybe the other guy will screw up, and then you can win.

Idra seems to always assume that his opponent is in the best possible position, given his information. That's not a bad approach when deciding how to develop your build within the game, but it's a terrible approach when deciding whether to leave the game.

Also, Idra seems to really like to find reasons that he can't win. But maybe that's just a side effect of his always assuming that his opponent is in great shape.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8348
On June 06 2011 02:55 Ender985 wrote:
It has been asked before (and it is still unanswered so far), but if ThorZain beat Idra, why is he in the loosers braket vs MC and Idra was in the winners braket?



b/c idra won his group
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 17:56:15
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8349
On June 06 2011 02:55 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:49 Ryan307 wrote:
On June 06 2011 02:48 cascades wrote:
Many viewers make the mistake that players can see everything we do.
IDRA DOES NOT HAVE OBS VIEW
- He does not know MMA killed his own OC
- He did not actively scout for a 3rd
- He realised that MMA army was > than 2 base economy
- He assumed incorrectly that MMA push was not a desperate all-in from that OC cancel, but a calculated decision.
- Idra assumed incorrectly that MMA was on a 4th base AND has enough scvs to transfer over
- Based on this and MMA's very successful drop, Idra has 0% chance f a comeback assuming his assumptions are correct.


Yeah this is all true, but that doesn't justify him preemptively leaving... Any other zerg in the world would have stayed and played it out, don't defend his actions.


And then you have people like Tyler, who doesn't GG after his allin has failed and he knows he's down a base and supply (of which his opponent has double) Not everyone wants to be hated for having Fantasy GG timing.


Because clearly Idra cares about what people think of him trollface.jpg
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8350
MLG should put MC vs Thorzain on a stream even if they don't have someone casting it.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
June 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#8351
Thorzain beats MC!!! behind 1-2
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8352
ret alrdy beat haypro? btw whats idras twitter acccount
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8353
So everyone's seeing restreams right now right?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8354
I think today has really demonstrated how imba ownkilling your orbital command is.

Naw, but really, poor Greg. He's a better player than that
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8355
MLG fail not showing ThorZaIN vs MC
PigglyWinks
Profile Joined May 2011
364 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8356
Unbelievable that they are not streaming MC-Thorzain, especially after what happened yesterday.

Good tournament overall but this is awful game sense by MLG.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8357
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/hs7kb/idra_you_fucking_idiot/
Instantly 1000 upvotes.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
TMStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia686 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8358
On June 06 2011 02:54 Bluedraqy wrote:
I am not getting the ''HOLY CHECK'' reference, could anyone care to explain please? :D

It's something Cella made popular. Check as in CheckPrime the zerg player.
||
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8359
On June 06 2011 02:55 Ender985 wrote:
It has been asked before (and it is still unanswered so far), but if ThorZain beat Idra, why is he in the loosers braket vs MC and Idra was in the winners braket?


thorzain was 3-2 in his group, idra won his group and beat MC so he is placed higher in the champ. gracket
fuck lag
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
June 05 2011 17:56 GMT
#8360
On June 06 2011 02:54 xuanzue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 02:52 Darpa wrote:
So many games going on right now, 2 streams, and no casts ><


the 2 streams seems meaningless


It is really shocking. It is the last day with all the best games and we are seeing a tiny fraction of it...which is usual for MLG, but they are now managing to do it with 2 streams. Incredibly sad.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
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