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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 22 2011 04:16 GMT
#801
On May 22 2011 13:15 godemperor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Everyone complaining about who's better, MC or Hasuobs.... There's a reason they play more than a best of 1. No one is perfect. MC is allowed to drop a game if he's outplayed. He has lost games before.

Do not forget, MC lost 2-0 vs polt. Out of the top 3 progamers, MC is definitely the most inconsistent (even though mvp did drop to code a)


How is it that when MC loses to Polt, some people cite inconsistency, and when MVP fell to Code A, they call it a fluke? >_>
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
May 22 2011 04:16 GMT
#802
On May 22 2011 13:08 iNcontroL wrote:
@daemonjr if it was the nasl fault don't you think the issue would be widespread? Do you think it makes sense that of some 20k you are the only one with a proble
But somehow it is the nasl's fault?


I have the same problem too - no need to attack the guy because he's reporting a bug.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
May 22 2011 04:16 GMT
#803
On May 22 2011 13:13 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:08 godemperor wrote:
On May 22 2011 13:04 DoomsVille wrote:
How can people say it's lag issues for MC? I mean Ace doesn't seem to have any problems playing on NA. In fact the majority of the koreans are doing extremely well in NASL.

I think the bigger issue is MC is taking NASL too lightly. He probably doesn't prepare anything specific for the games or review anything about his opponents. I bet his cockiness is what is holding him back.

The problem with lag is it varies, sometimes its really bad and other time not as much, but there definitely at least 1 sec delay. Also koreans doing well does not equal no lag, it just means some koreans are doing well despite lag. The fact there is a big discrepency between koreans offline events and onlines one just proves this problem. Lag is unfortunate but ineviatable. MC shoudl have chosen a less micro intensive attack, but then again pvp is the most micro intensive of all the match ups.

Do you know how long 1 sec is? Its way less than 1sec delay.

kk, i was bout to edit it, just realized my hotel connection is probably not the best measure of the state of latency in the programming houses.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 22 2011 04:17 GMT
#804
On May 22 2011 13:15 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:12 godemperor wrote:
On May 22 2011 13:09 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 22 2011 13:08 godemperor wrote:
On May 22 2011 13:04 DoomsVille wrote:
How can people say it's lag issues for MC? I mean Ace doesn't seem to have any problems playing on NA. In fact the majority of the koreans are doing extremely well in NASL.

I think the bigger issue is MC is taking NASL too lightly. He probably doesn't prepare anything specific for the games or review anything about his opponents. I bet his cockiness is what is holding him back.

The problem with lag is it varies, sometimes its really bad and other time not as much, but there definitely at least 1 sec delay. Also koreans doing well does not equal no lag, it just means some koreans are doing well despite lag. The fact there is a big discrepency between koreans offline events and onlines one just proves this problem. Lag is unfortunate but ineviatable. MC shoudl have chosen a less micro intensive attack, but then again pvp is the most micro intensive of all the match ups.


It varies when the Korean loses, it was extremely laggy, when the Korean wins, the lag was fine.

Sounds like someone has not forgiven kr's bw dominance and is currently hating on all the koreans now that the stage is bit more balanced, no point arguing with someone whos opinion is set in stone, i guess.


I actually haven't watch any BW,

I'm just sick of the Korean Bias, Korean wins, OMG THEY ARE SO AWESOME. Foreigner wins, OMG LAG IS TEH SUCK. We play the same damn game people.


No one will say anything about that in a LAN setting. Maybe you should look at results from LAN tournaments if you want the most legitimate measure of results.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 22 2011 04:17 GMT
#805
On May 22 2011 13:16 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:15 godemperor wrote:
On May 22 2011 13:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Everyone complaining about who's better, MC or Hasuobs.... There's a reason they play more than a best of 1. No one is perfect. MC is allowed to drop a game if he's outplayed. He has lost games before.

Do not forget, MC lost 2-0 vs polt. Out of the top 3 progamers, MC is definitely the most inconsistent (even though mvp did drop to code a)


How is it that when MC loses to Polt, some people cite inconsistency, and when MVP fell to Code A, they call it a fluke? >_>

It was more of MC doing stupid build orders whereas MVP got stuck with his worst matchup vs arguably the best PvT player in Korea/World. I mean, fluke, consistency... it's all perspective. There's no point in arguing it. MVP is back in code S anyways.
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godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#806
On May 22 2011 13:16 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:15 godemperor wrote:
On May 22 2011 13:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Everyone complaining about who's better, MC or Hasuobs.... There's a reason they play more than a best of 1. No one is perfect. MC is allowed to drop a game if he's outplayed. He has lost games before.

Do not forget, MC lost 2-0 vs polt. Out of the top 3 progamers, MC is definitely the most inconsistent (even though mvp did drop to code a)


How is it that when MC loses to Polt, some people cite inconsistency, and when MVP fell to Code A, they call it a fluke? >_>

mvp just seems like a safer player, personal opinions..
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#807
On May 22 2011 13:16 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:08 iNcontroL wrote:
@daemonjr if it was the nasl fault don't you think the issue would be widespread? Do you think it makes sense that of some 20k you are the only one with a proble
But somehow it is the nasl's fault?


I have the same problem too - no need to attack the guy because he's reporting a bug.

There's a bit of a difference between reporting a bug and claiming that NASL is complete garbage because he has to watch a 30 second ad during the break between games.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#808
dont see how MC could win this unless he micro like a god
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#809
jajaja
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#810
Oh no!! Lag screen!
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#811
oh no..
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#812
Oh god.....
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#813

nooooooooooo GET OUT CHILL
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#814
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hasuobs
wat
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 04:19:45
May 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#815
and MC gets let off the hook.

or not!
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 04:19:56
May 22 2011 04:19 GMT
#816
Nice. Waiting on Hosu (lol).
REGAME GO

EDIT: lol works out. wow. first time seeing that lol.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
May 22 2011 04:19 GMT
#817
Holy shit HOW hahahah
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
May 22 2011 04:19 GMT
#818
YAY
wat
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 22 2011 04:19 GMT
#819
oh my fucking god
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
May 22 2011 04:19 GMT
#820
WOW. HOLY SHIT THAT WAS CLOSE >_<
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
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