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Games are going on, no caster talk in the LR thread please.
tidus1492
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada12 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 05:05:06
May 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#1321
Replace Gretorp with Idra and have Idra/incontrol and NASL would be the best. Or just get rid of gretorp and it would be good. The incontrol/idra casting yesterday was great.

I dont see how anyone can like gretorp's casting, it is the absolute worst casting I've seen.

User was warned for this post
Proud supporter of replacing Gretorp as a caster for NASL.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45386 Posts
May 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#1322
Will miss IdrA casting...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
CardinalSC
Profile Joined January 2011
United States145 Posts
May 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#1323
Saying it was because of SeleCT's mistakes is equal to saying he would've won if he played perfectly, so it isn't really a valid way to explain his loss. Both players made mistakes. Ret just played better. Ret could've played perfectly to fend off the bunker pressure, and then he wouldn't have to baneling bust to win the game.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45386 Posts
May 15 2011 04:56 GMT
#1324
IdrA just became a colossus...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 15 2011 04:56 GMT
#1325
Ahaha I left the stream on, that was hilarious!
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
May 15 2011 04:57 GMT
#1326
What was that at the end? O_O
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 15 2011 04:57 GMT
#1327
I feel sorry for anyone who missed those couple of out-takes there at the end...that was awesome
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45386 Posts
May 15 2011 04:57 GMT
#1328
On May 15 2011 13:57 AimForTheBushes wrote:
I feel sorry for anyone who missed those couple of out-takes there at the end...that was awesome


It keeps repeating
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ojahh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Ireland728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 05:01:27
May 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#1329
muhahaha best fucking thing they have ever done.

Idra: apparently there is a problem with my eyes.....

switches to straight face and robot voice

THERE IS NO PROBLEM

collossus laser-beams shoot out of his eyes
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AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#1330
thanks to Geoff..I can't ever look at a horse in the same light anymore..
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
May 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#1331
I'm not a fan of Idra's play nor his behaviour on the internet but i actually do love his commentary. He has a great insightfull, relaxed casting stile. Really enjoying it.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
May 15 2011 05:01 GMT
#1332
All hails the hypnoidra!
Thank God and gunrun.
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
May 15 2011 05:12 GMT
#1333
On May 15 2011 13:03 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 13:01 zestzorb wrote:
On May 15 2011 12:55 Serpico wrote:
On May 15 2011 12:54 ffadicted wrote:
On May 15 2011 12:52 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Over and over I ask myself why this map is in the pool. There is simply no real answer to forcefields.


International:

TvZ: 20-23 (46.5%)
ZvP: 21-14 (60%)

Korean:

TvZ: 4-5 (44.4%)
ZvP: 6-5 (54.5%)

Zerg holds a winning record in every matchup in basically every league in that map. Can we drop the bullshit Zerg vs. Crossfire line of thought? There are more maps in the pool that are shitty for terran than for zerg.

When you get a bigger sample size over a longer period of time, sure.


The stats is not enough to conclude that Z has no disadvantage on this map, but I think we could observe how 50ish percent of Z managed to overcome their opponents on this map. Any good Z will incorporate those strategies with their gameplay.

Well considering the counter argument is "Crossfire is imbalanced against Zerg" you have to show at least SOME evidence for that statement. Unfortunately you can't because the only evidence available shows a favorable win % for Zerg. Sorry, but the "map is balanced" argument wins here.


I should have put it more clearly. We cannot conclude anything about Crossfire's balance.
We cannot derive any meaningful statistics because the sample size is way too small (about 100.) But any zerg imbalance whiners out there should attempt to observe how other zergs win on Crossfire and improve themselves on that, instead of trying to argue "since the sample size is small, 50ish% Z win is not meaningful, therefore Crossfire is imbalanced" No, that's just flawed logic.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 15 2011 05:52 GMT
#1334
Stalif took a game off MC, wow! congratz ^^
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
May 15 2011 06:17 GMT
#1335
The first post isn't updated. Who won the Ret game?
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
May 15 2011 06:18 GMT
#1336
On May 15 2011 15:17 AWakefield wrote:
The first post isn't updated. Who won the Ret game?


ret 2-1
=O
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
May 15 2011 06:18 GMT
#1337
On May 15 2011 15:18 Shifft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 15:17 AWakefield wrote:
The first post isn't updated. Who won the Ret game?


ret 2-1


Woohoo! Thanks man
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 15 2011 08:20 GMT
#1338
On May 15 2011 13:58 Ojahh wrote:
muhahaha best fucking thing they have ever done.
Show nested quote +

Idra: apparently there is a problem with my eyes.....

switches to straight face and robot voice

THERE IS NO PROBLEM

collossus laser-beams shoot out of his eyes


Someone make a gif plz :D.


And wow Ret taking down SelecT, go Ret!!
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
May 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#1339
Not sure if the recommended games are worth going by. Has the quality of games today been higher than the previous ones this week?

For the record, I like the previous format for recommended where instead of the poll, there was a small snippet of info about the exceptional games/what made them exceptional. A simple recommended/not recommended doesn't really convey enough information.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 15 2011 09:00 GMT
#1340
Yeah Ret! xD

Any place where I can see group rankings so far?
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