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On May 13 2011 13:19 SpaceYeti wrote:
Poor qxc. :"(
And is it wrong of me to root against CrunCher in every match he plays, no matter who the opponent. I can't really put my finger on it but for some reason I just really do not like this guy. :/
It's the exact opposite for me. I always root for cruncher.
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although i dont really like idra, i thoroughly enjoyed his casting
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On May 13 2011 13:11 RawBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:On May 13 2011 11:25 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:24 Tianx wrote:On May 13 2011 11:23 Aristodemus wrote:
I will laugh if/when cruncher wins some macro games Are you serious? Cruncher is famous for turtling off of 2-3 bases (particularly in PvZ). Ya, he either turtles or cheeses. Which is to say, that no matter what he does we'll classify it as one of the two and pretend we are being objective. Objectivity? BORING!!! Minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, structure complete, minerals being mined, minerals being mined..
That video wasn't even funny.
In fact the assumptions underlying it were pretty retarded.
Objectivity is orthogonal to obviousness.
And its obvious that in anything you've ever done you've wanted people judging you to be objective, or at least to try to be.
This casting was so far from being objective that it is pathetic.
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It's insulting to the other players when every win they get over a korean is immediately discredited.
Uh that may be true if it weren't for the fact that some of the players themselves have said the results against the koreans don't hold merit.
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On May 13 2011 13:30 mholden02 wrote:
I find myself agreeing with those who find Cruncher insufferable. From what I have seen he is a classless individual in both manner and play style.
Being rude to someone who is rude for the sole fact that they are rude is a good thing. Cruncher does the community a favor by defending himself.
Idra has attacked countless innocent up and coming players and people like you jump on the bandwagon.
Defending oneself against Idra instead of trying to kiss his ass when he insults you shows class.
Bashing a player who is obviously not a bad person just because others are, shows less than no class.
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On May 13 2011 13:11 mholden02 wrote:
I don't understand why Koreans must play "At odd times." Surely its within NASL's purview to schedule Korean games at a suitable time. There's no reason for 7 AM games other than rank incompetence. Lag on the other hand must simply be endured.
Actually, you're wrong. A "suitable" time for a Korean is not a good time for everyone else (what is suitable anyways?). We feel like we have a system that's good enough to work with. It's worked out fine for 5 weeks
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On May 13 2011 13:34 evandi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 13:11 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:On May 13 2011 11:25 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:24 Tianx wrote:On May 13 2011 11:23 Aristodemus wrote:
I will laugh if/when cruncher wins some macro games Are you serious? Cruncher is famous for turtling off of 2-3 bases (particularly in PvZ). Ya, he either turtles or cheeses. Which is to say, that no matter what he does we'll classify it as one of the two and pretend we are being objective. Objectivity? BORING!!! Minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, structure complete, minerals being mined, minerals being mined.. That video wasn't even funny. In fact the assumptions underlying it were pretty retarded. Objectivity is orthogonal to obviousness. And its obvious that in anything you've ever done you've wanted people judging you to be objective, or at least to try to be. This casting was so far from being objective that it is pathetic.
It's a show. The way Celebrity Apprentice keeps people like Gary Busey around and edits the way they do, is to make controversy and discussion.
Drama brings entertainment and if you think Cruncher is too shy for drama you are quite wrong sir.
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On May 13 2011 13:57 RawBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 13:34 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:11 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:On May 13 2011 11:25 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:24 Tianx wrote:On May 13 2011 11:23 Aristodemus wrote:
I will laugh if/when cruncher wins some macro games Are you serious? Cruncher is famous for turtling off of 2-3 bases (particularly in PvZ). Ya, he either turtles or cheeses. Which is to say, that no matter what he does we'll classify it as one of the two and pretend we are being objective. Objectivity? BORING!!! Minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, structure complete, minerals being mined, minerals being mined.. That video wasn't even funny. In fact the assumptions underlying it were pretty retarded. Objectivity is orthogonal to obviousness. And its obvious that in anything you've ever done you've wanted people judging you to be objective, or at least to try to be. This casting was so far from being objective that it is pathetic. It's a show. The way Celebrity Apprentice keeps people like Gary Busey around and edits the way they do, is to make controversy and discussion. Drama brings entertainment and if you think Cruncher is too shy for drama you are quite wrong sir.
Ok, turn this SC2 league into a circus. Sc2 is not good enough on its own merits evidently.
We don't need good players like Cruncher playing. We should laugh them offstage for imagined faults.
I have no idea whether or not Cruncher cares about NASL putting a Cruncher hater in charge of his match knowing what the result would be.
But I would be pretty pissed off. And if it happened to Idra I know he and his legion of fans would threaten to burn down the NASL headquarters. (figuratively speaking)
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On May 13 2011 14:02 evandi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 13:57 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 13:34 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:11 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:On May 13 2011 11:25 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:24 Tianx wrote:On May 13 2011 11:23 Aristodemus wrote:
I will laugh if/when cruncher wins some macro games Are you serious? Cruncher is famous for turtling off of 2-3 bases (particularly in PvZ). Ya, he either turtles or cheeses. Which is to say, that no matter what he does we'll classify it as one of the two and pretend we are being objective. Objectivity? BORING!!! Minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, structure complete, minerals being mined, minerals being mined.. That video wasn't even funny. In fact the assumptions underlying it were pretty retarded. Objectivity is orthogonal to obviousness. And its obvious that in anything you've ever done you've wanted people judging you to be objective, or at least to try to be. This casting was so far from being objective that it is pathetic. It's a show. The way Celebrity Apprentice keeps people like Gary Busey around and edits the way they do, is to make controversy and discussion. Drama brings entertainment and if you think Cruncher is too shy for drama you are quite wrong sir. Ok, turn this SC2 league into a circus. Sc2 is not good enough on its own merits evidently. We don't need good players like Cruncher playing. We should laugh them offstage for imagined faults. I have no idea whether or not Cruncher cares about NASL putting a Cruncher hater in charge of his match knowing what the result would be. But I would be pretty pissed off. And if it happened to Idra I know he and his legion of fans would threaten to burn down the NASL headquarters. (figuratively speaking)
but idra actually deserves his results and everything he has achieved so whoever tried to make fun of him would just be laughed at because Idra actually earned everything.
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On May 13 2011 14:10 Warrice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:02 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:57 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 13:34 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:11 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:On May 13 2011 11:25 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:24 Tianx wrote:On May 13 2011 11:23 Aristodemus wrote:
I will laugh if/when cruncher wins some macro games Are you serious? Cruncher is famous for turtling off of 2-3 bases (particularly in PvZ). Ya, he either turtles or cheeses. Which is to say, that no matter what he does we'll classify it as one of the two and pretend we are being objective. Objectivity? BORING!!! Minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, structure complete, minerals being mined, minerals being mined.. That video wasn't even funny. In fact the assumptions underlying it were pretty retarded. Objectivity is orthogonal to obviousness. And its obvious that in anything you've ever done you've wanted people judging you to be objective, or at least to try to be. This casting was so far from being objective that it is pathetic. It's a show. The way Celebrity Apprentice keeps people like Gary Busey around and edits the way they do, is to make controversy and discussion. Drama brings entertainment and if you think Cruncher is too shy for drama you are quite wrong sir. Ok, turn this SC2 league into a circus. Sc2 is not good enough on its own merits evidently. We don't need good players like Cruncher playing. We should laugh them offstage for imagined faults. I have no idea whether or not Cruncher cares about NASL putting a Cruncher hater in charge of his match knowing what the result would be. But I would be pretty pissed off. And if it happened to Idra I know he and his legion of fans would threaten to burn down the NASL headquarters. (figuratively speaking) but idra actually deserves his results and everything he has achieved so whoever tried to make fun of him would just be laughed at because Idra actually earned everything.
Saying that Cruncher didn't earn his results is baseless. Pure bullcrap.
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compLexityLive "We are disappointed by @idrajit's unprofessional comments on @nasltv. Bad mannered and uncalled for."
idrajit "@compLexityLive  "
ROFL, sounds like CrunCher got a bit upset by it. It was expected smack, he didn't say anything harsh. CrunCher should just try to prove him wrong without resorting to cheating.
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On May 13 2011 14:13 evandi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:10 Warrice wrote:On May 13 2011 14:02 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:57 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 13:34 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:11 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:On May 13 2011 11:25 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:24 Tianx wrote:On May 13 2011 11:23 Aristodemus wrote:
I will laugh if/when cruncher wins some macro games Are you serious? Cruncher is famous for turtling off of 2-3 bases (particularly in PvZ). Ya, he either turtles or cheeses. Which is to say, that no matter what he does we'll classify it as one of the two and pretend we are being objective. Objectivity? BORING!!! Minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, structure complete, minerals being mined, minerals being mined.. That video wasn't even funny. In fact the assumptions underlying it were pretty retarded. Objectivity is orthogonal to obviousness. And its obvious that in anything you've ever done you've wanted people judging you to be objective, or at least to try to be. This casting was so far from being objective that it is pathetic. It's a show. The way Celebrity Apprentice keeps people like Gary Busey around and edits the way they do, is to make controversy and discussion. Drama brings entertainment and if you think Cruncher is too shy for drama you are quite wrong sir. Ok, turn this SC2 league into a circus. Sc2 is not good enough on its own merits evidently. We don't need good players like Cruncher playing. We should laugh them offstage for imagined faults. I have no idea whether or not Cruncher cares about NASL putting a Cruncher hater in charge of his match knowing what the result would be. But I would be pretty pissed off. And if it happened to Idra I know he and his legion of fans would threaten to burn down the NASL headquarters. (figuratively speaking) but idra actually deserves his results and everything he has achieved so whoever tried to make fun of him would just be laughed at because Idra actually earned everything. Saying that Cruncher didn't earn his results is baseless. Pure bullcrap.
Then ignore idra. If it bothers you that much, press the little X at the top right of your stream tab.
Otherwise, mute it and stop bitching. You are in a EXTREMELY small minority of people who are butthurt about todays cast.
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On May 13 2011 14:33 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:13 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 14:10 Warrice wrote:On May 13 2011 14:02 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:57 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 13:34 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 13:11 RawBanana wrote:On May 13 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:On May 13 2011 11:25 evandi wrote:On May 13 2011 11:24 Tianx wrote:
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Are you serious? Cruncher is famous for turtling off of 2-3 bases (particularly in PvZ). Ya, he either turtles or cheeses. Which is to say, that no matter what he does we'll classify it as one of the two and pretend we are being objective. Objectivity? BORING!!! Minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, minerals being mined, structure complete, minerals being mined, minerals being mined.. That video wasn't even funny. In fact the assumptions underlying it were pretty retarded. Objectivity is orthogonal to obviousness. And its obvious that in anything you've ever done you've wanted people judging you to be objective, or at least to try to be. This casting was so far from being objective that it is pathetic. It's a show. The way Celebrity Apprentice keeps people like Gary Busey around and edits the way they do, is to make controversy and discussion. Drama brings entertainment and if you think Cruncher is too shy for drama you are quite wrong sir. Ok, turn this SC2 league into a circus. Sc2 is not good enough on its own merits evidently. We don't need good players like Cruncher playing. We should laugh them offstage for imagined faults. I have no idea whether or not Cruncher cares about NASL putting a Cruncher hater in charge of his match knowing what the result would be. But I would be pretty pissed off. And if it happened to Idra I know he and his legion of fans would threaten to burn down the NASL headquarters. (figuratively speaking) but idra actually deserves his results and everything he has achieved so whoever tried to make fun of him would just be laughed at because Idra actually earned everything. Saying that Cruncher didn't earn his results is baseless. Pure bullcrap. Then ignore idra. If it bothers you that much, press the little X at the top right of your stream tab. Otherwise, mute it and stop bitching. You are in a EXTREMELY small minority of people who are butthurt about todays cast.
Dude, I couldn't care less about whether or not I heard it. Are you truly implying that sticking one's head in the sand is a good defense?
I'm concerned that one of the two major American leagues just became a weapon for the biggest jerk in the scene, and that relatively powerful people in the community are enabling Idra to spend air time demonising a player he dislikes. And that his fans don't seem to understand the concept of justice or a conscience.
Few have deserved counter BM more than Idra. More people need to stand up to him and less people need to be encouraging him.
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On May 13 2011 14:37 RawBanana wrote:
I'll admit it's hard to argue online so here's them jokes:
"Sc2 is not good enough on its own merits evidently." <- not in that game, no.
"Saying that Cruncher didn't earn his results is baseless." <- he plays Protoss.
Actually, when the games were actually underway, Idra was too busy admitting that Ensnare was going to lose to insult Cruncher. So there goes your claim that that game was just too terrible to not insult Cruncher.
All of the insults came before the game. And after the games Idra looked stupid. Thousands of Idra fans ignored that.
As for the "plays Protoss" remark. That is so funny, gee whiz.
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On May 13 2011 14:29 Ruscour wrote:compLexityLive "We are disappointed by @idrajit's unprofessional comments on @nasltv. Bad mannered and uncalled for." idrajit "@compLexityLive " ROFL, sounds like CrunCher got a bit upset by it. It was expected smack, he didn't say anything harsh. CrunCher should just try to prove him wrong without resorting to cheating.
He called him a "random fat guy".
Perhaps this is the playground bullying Idra missed out on as a kid.
User was temp banned for this post.
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I was already ready tempted to get the pass for nasl, but i think idra casting cruncher vs ensnare might be the tipping point. Plus with the little tme i have to catch up on tourneys i seem to be watching mostly nasl, i really enjoy it\ :D
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On May 13 2011 14:41 evandi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2011 14:37 RawBanana wrote:
I'll admit it's hard to argue online so here's them jokes:
"Sc2 is not good enough on its own merits evidently." <- not in that game, no.
"Saying that Cruncher didn't earn his results is baseless." <- he plays Protoss. Actually, when the games were actually underway, Idra was too busy admitting that Ensnare was going to lose to insult Cruncher. So there goes your claim that that game was just too terrible to not insult Cruncher. All of the insults came before the game. And after the games Idra looked stupid. Thousands of Idra fans ignored that. As for the "plays Protoss" remark. That is so funny, gee whiz.
"Actually, when the games were actually underway, Idra was too busy admitting that Ensnare was going to lose to insult Cruncher. So there goes your claim that that game was just too terrible to not insult Cruncher."
I really have a hard time figuring what you mean by this. The game was just so terribad by Ensnare that a normal commentary would have been like: -Oh Ensnare is playing horrible with all that lag and decisions. -Yeah.
On the other hand what you said about Cruncher firing back it's completely true and I do think it's good for Idra to have a "bm-opponent".
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Oh man, can't believe I missed this..can you only view vods with a subscription? NM, I can catch the euro broadcast tomorrow..woot
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