EPTNASL Week 5 Day 1 - Page 31
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
Immortals are good against small mech groups, once you get a mid-sized or large mech army, immortals become virtually useless. Siege tanks just bring them down too quick, and hellions tank all their damage (and hellion groups bring their shields down quick too). Not to mention thors, which actually beat immortals 1v1 not counting strike cannon. Hell, having 25 immortals (100 supply worth of pure immortals) would do almost nothing. Protoss has one counter to a large mech ball: carriers. | ||
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eXalt
United States71 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45925 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:08 Oscatron wrote: stream is lagging hard wtf -Lower quality -Close chat -Pop out the video It's not lagging for most of us, afaik. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
How can it be a spoiler if the game is cast before the interview? | ||
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Kisra
United Kingdom466 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Grubby's overhyped imo. Great WC3 player but this isn't WC3. He hasn't showed many (any?) results so far in SC2. And TLO is awesome ^^ 3rd place in Copenhagen was a pretty big result. He's inconsistant, not bad. There is a difference. | ||
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Jman5
United States745 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:08 jdseemoreglass wrote: TLO.... such an easy call. Who is grubby? 0-4?  I feel bad for grubby because if you look at the series individually he isn't getting crushed. He just isn't finishing on top in the Bo3. | ||
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OsC
Canada542 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: -Lower quality -Close chat -Pop out the video It's not lagging for most of us, afaik. im not lowering the quality it has nothing to do with my internet i never had the chat open im watching it straight from nasl.tv | ||
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Notam
Australia93 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:09 Flummie wrote: Artosis switched race to show the world how imba Protoss is and how much game it has versus Zerg. He sure showed us lolz.. losing 2-0 vs every zerg on the planet. What? | ||
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Radical
United States481 Posts
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:10 Whitewing wrote: Immortals are good against small mech groups, once you get a mid-sized or large mech army, immortals become virtually useless. Siege tanks just bring them down too quick, and hellions tank all their damage (and hellion groups bring their shields down quick too). Not to mention thors, which actually beat immortals 1v1 not counting strike cannon. Hell, having 25 immortals (100 supply worth of pure immortals) would do almost nothing. Protoss has one counter to a large mech ball: carriers. You've broken the ultimate SC2 taboo! You've mentioned the unit that shall not be named! | ||
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Sermokala
United States14128 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:09 Azarkon wrote: 50 supply's worth of immortals would not kill 200/200 mech. I think Gretorp was exaggerating, and Idra just didn't want to argue. Although, mech is less viable after the patch due to thors being countered by HTs. If they where spaced out and there wasn't any ghosts out then yeah they would. but the problem is that there is and they never are. The counter to Mech is protoss air. You can't go wrong with 20 void rays and 3 carriers. | ||
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SolonTLG
United States299 Posts
On May 12 2011 10:54 garlicface wrote: Read the replies to the last person who wanted to be cheeky. Against my better judgment, I am going to reply... The NASL is going by the convention that W-L (e.g. 0-5) refers to the outcomes of the bo3 matches. That is, if a person lost 5 bo3 matches then that person would have a record of 0-5. The cumulative results of the games across all bo3 are called "points" by the NASL, with +1 point for set win and -1 point for a set loss. So if a person got swept in 5 bo3 matches, then that person would have -10 points. Thus, when you say 0-10, in NASL terms that means 10 lost bo3 matches, which is impossible in 10-person groups. | ||
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Grubby's overhyped imo. Great WC3 player but this isn't WC3. He hasn't showed many (any?) results so far in SC2. And TLO is awesome ^^ He pulled in a bronze last month in the Copenhagen Games (over Morrow, I believe). He actually played pretty well in it, with the expected hiccups of still polishing his game. I think TLO is a clear favorite, but there's upset potential, for sure. Go TLO!! | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:10 Kisra wrote: 3rd place in Copenhagen was a pretty big result. He's inconsistant, not bad. There is a difference. The fact that everyone keeps pointing to a third place finish as evidence of his skill is pretty telling. I know, I know... It was such a "huge, tough!" tournament, like gsl... | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:11 MajorityofOne wrote: You've broken the ultimate SC2 taboo! You've mentioned the unit that shall not be named! Lol, forgot to mention too, 2 ghosts instantly shut down all your immortals, and they lowered the gas cost so terran players can get ghosts while going mech. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:11 sermokala wrote: If they where spaced out and there wasn't any ghosts out then yeah they would. but the problem is that there is and they never are. The counter to Mech is protoss air. You can't go wrong with 20 void rays and 3 carriers. Even then they wouldn't because Thors do relatively well vs. Immortals. 250mm pre-patch devastated Immortal groups. Protoss air is countered by vikings, so 200/200 mech should really be played with either marines or vikings. | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 12 2011 11:09 travis wrote: sure it means plenty and im sure some players in here are better than him but as i expected, you haven't made any comments like I was talking about Yeah, people just jump on the bandwagon too easily when it comes to bashing players. I've seen him ladder a few times and he's still a good player. A lot better than what he's shown in the NASL which is why i'd like him to win. Just to prove to the haters that he's not as terrible as people try to make out on here. That and i have a soft spot for all good BW players :p | ||
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