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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 02:10:50
May 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#601
50 supply's worth of immortals would not kill 200/200 mech. I think Gretorp was exaggerating, and Idra just didn't want to argue. Though mech is less viable after the patch, due to thors being countered by HTs.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 02:10:44
May 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#602
On May 12 2011 11:08 Geniuszerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:07 Whitewing wrote:
200/200 mech terran army is the strongest deathball in the game, no way 50 supply kills it, unless it's 25 DT's and you didn't bother getting detection.

immortals?


Immortals are good against small mech groups, once you get a mid-sized or large mech army, immortals become virtually useless. Siege tanks just bring them down too quick, and hellions tank all their damage (and hellion groups bring their shields down quick too). Not to mention thors, which actually beat immortals 1v1 not counting strike cannon. Hell, having 25 immortals (100 supply worth of pure immortals) would do almost nothing.

Protoss has one counter to a large mech ball: carriers.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
eXalt
Profile Joined January 2011
United States71 Posts
May 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#603
Lol@Gretorp cutting off IdrA every minute.
Ignorance is Strength.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#604
Has anyone noticed how much chess terminology Gretorp throws out there?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45276 Posts
May 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#605
On May 12 2011 11:08 Oscatron wrote:
stream is lagging hard wtf


-Lower quality
-Close chat
-Pop out the video

It's not lagging for most of us, afaik.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#606
On May 12 2011 11:06 Maliris wrote:
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On May 12 2011 11:05 woob wrote:
did anyone else notice before the games Gretorp said "we have an interview with ViBE after the games"
which is basically a spoiler

kinda lame

yeah i noticed too sad


How can it be a spoiler if the game is cast before the interview?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Kisra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom466 Posts
May 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#607
On May 12 2011 11:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On May 12 2011 11:08 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:07 DaCruise wrote:
Time for the popularity contest: TLO vs Grubby!..who the hell do I cheer for?


Where do you think you're posting? TLO of course!


Grubby's overhyped imo. Great WC3 player but this isn't WC3. He hasn't showed many (any?) results so far in SC2.

And TLO is awesome ^^


3rd place in Copenhagen was a pretty big result.

He's inconsistant, not bad. There is a difference.
:D
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
May 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#608
On May 12 2011 11:08 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:07 DaCruise wrote:
Time for the popularity contest: TLO vs Grubby!..who the hell do I cheer for?


TLO.... such an easy call. Who is grubby? 0-4?

I feel bad for grubby because if you look at the series individually he isn't getting crushed. He just isn't finishing on top in the Bo3.
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
May 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#609
On May 12 2011 11:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:08 Oscatron wrote:
stream is lagging hard wtf


-Lower quality
-Close chat
-Pop out the video

It's not lagging for most of us, afaik.


im not lowering the quality

it has nothing to do with my internet


i never had the chat open im watching it straight from nasl.tv
Notam
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia93 Posts
May 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#610
Need a thesaurus for the word "standard".
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#611
On May 12 2011 11:09 Flummie wrote:
Artosis switched race to show the world how imba Protoss is and how much game it has versus Zerg.
He sure showed us lolz.. losing 2-0 vs every zerg on the planet.


What?
Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
May 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#612
The stream is running very smooth for me.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
May 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#613
On May 12 2011 11:10 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:08 Geniuszerg wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:07 Whitewing wrote:
200/200 mech terran army is the strongest deathball in the game, no way 50 supply kills it, unless it's 25 DT's and you didn't bother getting detection.

immortals?


Immortals are good against small mech groups, once you get a mid-sized or large mech army, immortals become virtually useless. Siege tanks just bring them down too quick, and hellions tank all their damage (and hellion groups bring their shields down quick too). Not to mention thors, which actually beat immortals 1v1 not counting strike cannon. Hell, having 25 immortals (100 supply worth of pure immortals) would do almost nothing.

Protoss has one counter to a large mech ball: carriers.


You've broken the ultimate SC2 taboo! You've mentioned the unit that shall not be named!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
May 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#614
On May 12 2011 11:09 Azarkon wrote:
50 supply's worth of immortals would not kill 200/200 mech. I think Gretorp was exaggerating, and Idra just didn't want to argue. Although, mech is less viable after the patch due to thors being countered by HTs.



If they where spaced out and there wasn't any ghosts out then yeah they would.

but the problem is that there is and they never are. The counter to Mech is protoss air. You can't go wrong with 20 void rays and 3 carriers.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
SolonTLG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States299 Posts
May 12 2011 02:12 GMT
#615
On May 12 2011 10:54 garlicface wrote:
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On May 12 2011 10:52 SolonTLG wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:49 garlicface wrote:
Please don't go 0-10 Artosis.


Yes, he is going to lose to all of the other players in his 10-person group, including himself

Read the replies to the last person who wanted to be cheeky.


Against my better judgment, I am going to reply...

The NASL is going by the convention that W-L (e.g. 0-5) refers to the outcomes of the bo3 matches. That is, if a person lost 5 bo3 matches then that person would have a record of 0-5.

The cumulative results of the games across all bo3 are called "points" by the NASL, with +1 point for set win and -1 point for a set loss. So if a person got swept in 5 bo3 matches, then that person would have -10 points.

Thus, when you say 0-10, in NASL terms that means 10 lost bo3 matches, which is impossible in 10-person groups.
The Law Giver
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 12 2011 02:12 GMT
#616
On May 12 2011 11:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:08 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:07 DaCruise wrote:
Time for the popularity contest: TLO vs Grubby!..who the hell do I cheer for?


Where do you think you're posting? TLO of course!


Grubby's overhyped imo. Great WC3 player but this isn't WC3. He hasn't showed many (any?) results so far in SC2.

And TLO is awesome ^^


He pulled in a bronze last month in the Copenhagen Games (over Morrow, I believe). He actually played pretty well in it, with the expected hiccups of still polishing his game. I think TLO is a clear favorite, but there's upset potential, for sure.

Go TLO!!
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
May 12 2011 02:12 GMT
#617
On May 12 2011 11:10 Kisra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:08 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:07 DaCruise wrote:
Time for the popularity contest: TLO vs Grubby!..who the hell do I cheer for?


Where do you think you're posting? TLO of course!


Grubby's overhyped imo. Great WC3 player but this isn't WC3. He hasn't showed many (any?) results so far in SC2.

And TLO is awesome ^^


3rd place in Copenhagen was a pretty big result.

He's inconsistant, not bad. There is a difference.


The fact that everyone keeps pointing to a third place finish as evidence of his skill is pretty telling.

I know, I know... It was such a "huge, tough!" tournament, like gsl...
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
May 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#618
On May 12 2011 11:11 MajorityofOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:10 Whitewing wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:08 Geniuszerg wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:07 Whitewing wrote:
200/200 mech terran army is the strongest deathball in the game, no way 50 supply kills it, unless it's 25 DT's and you didn't bother getting detection.

immortals?


Immortals are good against small mech groups, once you get a mid-sized or large mech army, immortals become virtually useless. Siege tanks just bring them down too quick, and hellions tank all their damage (and hellion groups bring their shields down quick too). Not to mention thors, which actually beat immortals 1v1 not counting strike cannon. Hell, having 25 immortals (100 supply worth of pure immortals) would do almost nothing.

Protoss has one counter to a large mech ball: carriers.


You've broken the ultimate SC2 taboo! You've mentioned the unit that shall not be named!


Lol, forgot to mention too, 2 ghosts instantly shut down all your immortals, and they lowered the gas cost so terran players can get ghosts while going mech.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 02:13:45
May 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#619
On May 12 2011 11:11 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:09 Azarkon wrote:
50 supply's worth of immortals would not kill 200/200 mech. I think Gretorp was exaggerating, and Idra just didn't want to argue. Although, mech is less viable after the patch due to thors being countered by HTs.



If they where spaced out and there wasn't any ghosts out then yeah they would.

but the problem is that there is and they never are. The counter to Mech is protoss air. You can't go wrong with 20 void rays and 3 carriers.


Even then they wouldn't because Thors do relatively well vs. Immortals. 250mm pre-patch devastated Immortal groups.

Protoss air is countered by vikings, so 200/200 mech should really be played with either marines or vikings.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 02:14:42
May 12 2011 02:14 GMT
#620
On May 12 2011 11:09 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:07 TheHova wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:05 travis wrote:
Understand that every player in the NASL is quite good, it's not like you guys would ever have a chance vs them. So Artosis gets owned over and over, he'd still crush anyone making comments about his skill level

(or almost anyone)


I'm in grandmaster O_O.

(I know this doesn't mean i'm better than Artosis btw and ladder doesn't really mean much)


sure it means plenty
and im sure some players in here are better than him

but as i expected, you haven't made any comments like I was talking about



Yeah, people just jump on the bandwagon too easily when it comes to bashing players. I've seen him ladder a few times and he's still a good player. A lot better than what he's shown in the NASL which is why i'd like him to win. Just to prove to the haters that he's not as terrible as people try to make out on here.

That and i have a soft spot for all good BW players :p
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