• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:46
CEST 16:46
KST 23:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results1Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ vespene.gg — BW replays in browser ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2238 users

NASL Week 5 Day 1 - Page 10

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 62 Next
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 12 2011 01:10 GMT
#181
On May 12 2011 10:09 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.



Abusive doesn't equal imbalance, christ. It means you do something designed to do tons of damage if your oppenent doesn't react correctly.


Yup... this is true. It's funny how there are people who complain about balance, and there are also people who complain about too much balance talk. I remember last week some guy randomly started telling zergs to stop crying about imbalance when not a single person posted about balance.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 12 2011 01:11 GMT
#182
On May 12 2011 10:09 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.



Abusive doesn't equal imbalance, christ. It means you do something designed to do tons of damage if your oppenent doesn't react correctly.


I know what abusive is, christ. How does 18 nexus fall under that category? It doesn't. Idra just loves calling every single Protoss in the world abusive.

He's good at casting but it would be better if they wouldn't let him cast Protoss.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
May 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#183
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.


How wasn't his build abusive? You must feel pretty silly right now.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#184
Sheth didn't utilize his spines at all . He could have moved them foward or retreated to them multiple times. Instead they ended up being useless.

1-0 Kiwi.
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
May 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#185
thats some of the best blink micro i have ever seen......
scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 01:12:36
May 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#186
Wow...I can't believe Kiwi won that. He really shouldn't have.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#187
Basic summary of Kiwi vs Sheth G1

+ Show Spoiler +
Kiwikaki vs Sheth G1

Crevasse

Sheth spawns top left, Kiwi Spawns top right

Sheth opens gas first while Kiwi goes for a risky 18 Nexus after 2 probes.

Kiwi also starts a forge and a gateway after the nexus.

Sheth expands at 20 supply.

Sheth tries to get into the base with a few zerglings, but a pylon makes a solid wallin.

Seeing that Sheth can't get into the base of Kiwi, he makes another expansion.

Kiwikaki starts a sentry and begins Ground weapons +1 while Sheth gets zergling speed and a lair.

Kiwi makes a twilight council and makes 5 gateways + a robotics bar

Sheth morphs a roach warren and it finishes as the lair finishes.

Sheth sacs an overlord and sees the 4 gateways, but not the twilight council.

Kiwi breaks out of his own wall by killing a pylon, and the zerglings outside manage to pick off a stalker as he moves out a bit.

As the protoss moves out, zerglings snipe the probe then run by the army to harrass the main base.

Kiwi breaks down the rocks outside of Sheth's 3rd and attacks through,

A pylon goes down and Kiwi keeps warping in stalkers from it.

Great blink micro, taking out all of Sheth's army.

As kiwi kills the third base of Sheth, roaches try to flank, but there is too many stalkers and Sheth GGs.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
May 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#188
On May 12 2011 10:11 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 10:09 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.



Abusive doesn't equal imbalance, christ. It means you do something designed to do tons of damage if your oppenent doesn't react correctly.


I know what abusive is, christ. How does 18 nexus fall under that category? It doesn't. Idra just loves calling every single Protoss in the world abusive.

He's good at casting but it would be better if they wouldn't let him cast Protoss.


Gretorp was the one who said the 18 nexus was 'abusive'. Stop letting your bias against IdrA confuse you.
kirbynator
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada503 Posts
May 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#189
holyyyyyyyy crap dat micro
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#190
Not to sound like a fanboy, but Idra's game knowledge is so damn good. I love hearing him talk about what's going on in games.. Hoping Sheth brings some funk for game 2.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
May 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#191
18 probe FE then 6 gate push with blink Stalkers. awesome build and perfect execution with micro
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#192
On May 12 2011 10:12 tangwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 10:11 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:09 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.



Abusive doesn't equal imbalance, christ. It means you do something designed to do tons of damage if your oppenent doesn't react correctly.


I know what abusive is, christ. How does 18 nexus fall under that category? It doesn't. Idra just loves calling every single Protoss in the world abusive.

He's good at casting but it would be better if they wouldn't let him cast Protoss.


Gretorp was the one who said the 18 nexus was 'abusive'. Stop letting your bias against IdrA confuse you.


I know who said it, lol. Gretorp is just like that, perhaps watch the vod later to check who brought it up first.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#193
On May 12 2011 10:11 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 10:09 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.



Abusive doesn't equal imbalance, christ. It means you do something designed to do tons of damage if your oppenent doesn't react correctly.


I know what abusive is, christ. How does 18 nexus fall under that category? It doesn't. Idra just loves calling every single Protoss in the world abusive.

He's good at casting but it would be better if they wouldn't let him cast Protoss.



Because it gives you a huge early economy and quick tech? Were you not listening at all?
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
May 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#194
It looks like Idras mic is...embedded into his cheek! Hah! Oh well, good game Kiwi!
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
May 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#195
That build by kiwi wouldnt lose to anything else then baneling bust imo:/
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
May 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#196
Very well said there by IdrA; I'm impressed with his co-casting skills thus far.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
May 12 2011 01:14 GMT
#197
Wow the break countdown bar and up coming matches display while on break between games is an awesome minor improvement that brings the production value up a lot, great job NASL!
SlayerS Fighting!
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 12 2011 01:14 GMT
#198
On May 12 2011 10:11 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 10:09 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.



Abusive doesn't equal imbalance, christ. It means you do something designed to do tons of damage if your oppenent doesn't react correctly.


I know what abusive is, christ. How does 18 nexus fall under that category? It doesn't. Idra just loves calling every single Protoss in the world abusive.

He's good at casting but it would be better if they wouldn't let him cast Protoss.


It's abusing the fact that you have such a protected natural you can take and the fact that you can get away with putting it down so late because of the map and how you can wall off at the front. Ofcourse it's abusive...

He didn't call him bad for doing it ffs, just called it exactly how it is. Ofcourse players are going to abuse certain aspects of their race to win tournaments and games.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
May 12 2011 01:14 GMT
#199
What's going on, I just heard Idra complimenting kiwi, someone he surely doesn't like. :O
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
May 12 2011 01:14 GMT
#200
Poll: Would you recommend game 1 (Sheth vs KiWiKaKi)

Yes (12)
 
43%

No (11)
 
39%

If you have the time (5)
 
18%

28 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 1 (Sheth vs KiWiKaKi)

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have the time

말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 62 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #248
TKL 207
iHatsuTV 25
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 460
TKL 207
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47535
Calm 6863
Sea 4698
EffOrt 1259
BeSt 336
actioN 278
ggaemo 267
Rush 244
Soulkey 201
scan(afreeca) 128
[ Show more ]
Mind 81
Barracks 51
Sea.KH 49
ToSsGirL 49
Shinee 44
soO 27
Backho 24
Terrorterran 16
Free 15
Shine 12
Sacsri 11
yabsab 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Dota 2
Gorgc7509
qojqva1522
XaKoH 243
syndereN228
League of Legends
Reynor90
Counter-Strike
fl0m3536
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King93
Other Games
gofns29278
Grubby10807
singsing2496
B2W.Neo724
hiko589
Beastyqt575
DeMusliM483
byalli368
Lowko341
crisheroes314
Hui .214
KnowMe168
monkeys_forever120
ArmadaUGS83
QueenE61
XcaliburYe52
Trikslyr1
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL35291
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 25
• poizon28 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota243
League of Legends
• Nemesis2716
• Jankos1556
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
1h 14m
sebesdes vs Iba
Percival vs YoungYakov
Reynor vs GgMaChine
Korean StarCraft League
12h 14m
RSL Revival
19h 14m
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
1d 1h
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
1d 4h
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
1d 17h
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
2 days
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-14
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.