On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote:
It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride

Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...

Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem
I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM.

To be honest his games vs fenix i would have to argue that he barely masters caliber or lower

Not saying Artosis is awesome, but to be fair he is playing these NASL games at like 5 am and with latency which comes from playing from Korea.

Yeah his recent streaming that he does on normal Korean time and normal latency are much better then what he has been able to show at NASL.

You are as good as what your opponents allow you to be.. he wasn't playing Fenix, Moon and others..

no offence to fenix, but beyond doing well in the NASL he looked like a player being left behind by the game, maybe he is now coming back after a slump, i dont know.

ask anyone who has played both NA and KR ladder and they will tell you that the kr ladder is harder than even going against pros on NA.

ive enjoyed artosis's stream alot, he shows he knows his stuff and can play well. his biggest problem appears to be frustration and pressure. he doesnt seem to deal with either very well.

He wasn't playing for a couple of months due to broken hand or so I've heard. For someone the game was 'leaving behind' he dismantled Artosis in a way I've never ever seen done in a casted match between pros.
As for your other point, are you really saying that the NASL competition for Artosis is in similar level as players from the Master league in KR server?? you gotta be joking or speaking out fanboyism and ignorance.

people put too much weight on the fenix artosis game. he put his sentry at the front of his ramp and then didnt use a forcefield. maybe lag maybe a big derp who knows. his build clearly relied on that sentry to protect him. when under pressure he was unable to spend his money. like i said pressure and nerves. i meant in game pressure, not pressure to perform.

if you actually watch artosis's stream he beats plenty of code a level players.

So Artosis lost because of lag now? heheh.. w/e. He may get a win and finish 1-9 in NASL, but that's the best case scenario for him imho.

-IntEnZ-

Sweden50 Posts

May 09 2011 18:21 GMT

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A huge thanks for the effort put into this! It feels like NASL is always on when I check!

s4life

Peru1519 Posts

May 09 2011 18:23 GMT

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On May 10 2011 03:01 Sqq wrote:

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explain please

Let me.. the Zenio of that game lost against drewbie, the Zenio of GSL won against Jinro.. what all this means? i have no fking clue.. top players lose some and win some as per usual.. perhaps the original poster is another lag qqer though.

Sqq

Norway2023 Posts

May 09 2011 18:27 GMT

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On May 10 2011 03:23 s4life wrote:

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cheers mate. There is to much stuff to watch these days, so it takes me days to get up to speed

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

May 09 2011 18:33 GMT

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On May 10 2011 03:27 Sqq wrote:

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cheers mate. There is to much stuff to watch these days, so it takes me days to get up to speed

Hrm, thoughtless of me to not consider spoilers, apologies Sqq if you hadn't wanted to know that

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Zenio played some really impressive games this morning, brilliant decision making and excellent macro throughout, even in the face of extreme adversity. Just felt in stark contrast to him dying that game with +1 flyer weapons and 2k gas in the bank having made 0 mutas, as well as being behind like 65 to 80 in supply going into midgame despite no early engagements or anything.

Back to the current games...that fungal was so dirty lol, infestors give me nightmares xD

Zenio losing so many hatches pre-infestors really hurt him, had a great position after killing so much, but had massively lowered production and income to follow up.

Sqq

Norway2023 Posts

May 09 2011 18:38 GMT

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On May 10 2011 03:33 Asha` wrote:

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