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On May 10 2011 03:33 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 03:27 Sqq wrote:On May 10 2011 03:23 s4life wrote:On May 10 2011 03:01 Sqq wrote:On May 10 2011 03:00 Asha` wrote:
Funny seeing the difference between the Zenio of that game and the Zenio of today's GSL. explain please Let me.. the Zenio of that game lost against drewbie, the Zenio of GSL won against Jinro.. what all this means? i have no fking clue.. top players lose some and win some as per usual.. perhaps the original poster is another lag qqer though. cheers mate. There is to much stuff to watch these days, so it takes me days to get up to speed  Hrm, thoughtless of me to not consider spoilers, apologies Sqq if you hadn't wanted to know that + Show Spoiler [for further discussion] +Zenio played some really impressive games this morning, brilliant decision making and excellent macro throughout, even in the face of extreme adversity. Just felt in stark contrast to him dying that game with +1 flyer weapons and 2k gas in the bank having made 0 mutas, as well as being behind like 65 to 80 in supply going into midgame despite no early engagements or anything. Back to the current games...that fungal was so dirty lol, infestors give me nightmares xD Zenio losing so many hatches pre-infestors really hurt him, had a great position after killing so much, but had massively lowered production and income to follow up.
to be fair You got to think about where these guy's focus is at. GSL is a lot bigger deal for them then NASL.
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On May 10 2011 03:47 Qwix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 03:46 Telcontar wrote:
Has the BoxeR vs Tyler series been casted yet? No, not yet.
On May 10 2011 03:47 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 03:46 Telcontar wrote:
Has the BoxeR vs Tyler series been casted yet? Nope, we're just starting Idra vs Painuser, there's also Socke vs Cloud before it I believe. Maybe Boxer in an hour or so I'd guess?
Muchas gracias.
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On May 10 2011 03:47 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 03:33 Asha` wrote:On May 10 2011 03:27 Sqq wrote:On May 10 2011 03:23 s4life wrote:On May 10 2011 03:01 Sqq wrote:On May 10 2011 03:00 Asha` wrote:
Funny seeing the difference between the Zenio of that game and the Zenio of today's GSL. explain please Let me.. the Zenio of that game lost against drewbie, the Zenio of GSL won against Jinro.. what all this means? i have no fking clue.. top players lose some and win some as per usual.. perhaps the original poster is another lag qqer though. cheers mate. There is to much stuff to watch these days, so it takes me days to get up to speed Hrm, thoughtless of me to not consider spoilers, apologies Sqq if you hadn't wanted to know that + Show Spoiler [for further discussion] +Zenio played some really impressive games this morning, brilliant decision making and excellent macro throughout, even in the face of extreme adversity. Just felt in stark contrast to him dying that game with +1 flyer weapons and 2k gas in the bank having made 0 mutas, as well as being behind like 65 to 80 in supply going into midgame despite no early engagements or anything. Back to the current games...that fungal was so dirty lol, infestors give me nightmares xD Zenio losing so many hatches pre-infestors really hurt him, had a great position after killing so much, but had massively lowered production and income to follow up. to be fair You got to think about where these guy's focus is at. GSL is a lot bigger deal for them then NASL.
Of course of course, I was just noting the differences. Drewbie for his part showed off some pretty sexy bio control too ^^
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I really don't see any way Painuser beats Idra; Idra's on a roll of late, while Painuser hasn't really shown anything that makes me think he's at the tip top level right now.
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Mass repair the bunker and it never goes down.
This is really frustrating...
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painuser's pretty damn good, man
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I really don't agree with this turtle terran style anymore. It feels like Z's figured out how to deal with it and you pretty much get overrun as T.
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On May 10 2011 03:56 Derez wrote:
I really don't agree with this turtle terran style anymore. It feels like Z's figured out how to deal with it and you pretty much get overrun as T.
Actually it's fine. idra could've lost pretty easily after that roach all-in failed. Painuser just played it safely and didn't hit before mutas, just in case round 2 of the all-in was coming. Or he just wanted to be passive. Then he sieged up way too late when he did attack. He could've won this game if he metagamed greg and figured out that he (idra) wouldn't want to play a long game on a map that's considered bad for zerg.
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On May 10 2011 03:47 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 03:33 Asha` wrote:On May 10 2011 03:27 Sqq wrote:On May 10 2011 03:23 s4life wrote:On May 10 2011 03:01 Sqq wrote:On May 10 2011 03:00 Asha` wrote:
Funny seeing the difference between the Zenio of that game and the Zenio of today's GSL. explain please Let me.. the Zenio of that game lost against drewbie, the Zenio of GSL won against Jinro.. what all this means? i have no fking clue.. top players lose some and win some as per usual.. perhaps the original poster is another lag qqer though. cheers mate. There is to much stuff to watch these days, so it takes me days to get up to speed Hrm, thoughtless of me to not consider spoilers, apologies Sqq if you hadn't wanted to know that + Show Spoiler [for further discussion] +Zenio played some really impressive games this morning, brilliant decision making and excellent macro throughout, even in the face of extreme adversity. Just felt in stark contrast to him dying that game with +1 flyer weapons and 2k gas in the bank having made 0 mutas, as well as being behind like 65 to 80 in supply going into midgame despite no early engagements or anything. Back to the current games...that fungal was so dirty lol, infestors give me nightmares xD Zenio losing so many hatches pre-infestors really hurt him, had a great position after killing so much, but had massively lowered production and income to follow up. to be fair You got to think about where these guy's focus is at. GSL is a lot bigger deal for them then NASL.
The thing is, a lot of players have multiple matches and tournaments going on at once.
The NASL has a close prize-pool to that of the GSL too, so in terms of prizes, there's no reason to make too many excuses or assumptions in regards to focus.
Every top player is involved in multiple tournaments and preparing for multiple games at this point.
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Anyone else hear Geoff's nose shooting hot man air into the mic =p???
edit, actually i cant tell if its gretorp or geoff now lol
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Great games but I really feel the casting is subpar. The commentators are constantly laughing at their own jokes (which aren't very fun to begin with, might be some inside stuff I dunno) and it distracts from what's actually going on in-game. Not to mention that their analysis of what's going on or regarding strategies are usually pretty far off, or overly basic.
I much prefer tastosis or the djwheat/idra combo we saw in the EG cup. But considering the good chemistry between incontrol and gretorp the quality of the casting will hopefully improve.
Just me 2 cents.
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haha, incontrol, "2 hellion counter" :D
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On May 10 2011 03:58 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 03:56 Derez wrote:
I really don't agree with this turtle terran style anymore. It feels like Z's figured out how to deal with it and you pretty much get overrun as T. Actually it's fine. idra could've lost pretty easily after that roach all-in failed. Painuser just played it safely and didn't hit before mutas, just in case round 2 of the all-in was coming. Or he just wanted to be passive. Then he sieged up way too late when he did attack. He could've won this game if he metagamed greg and figured out that he (idra) wouldn't want to play a long game on a map that's considered bad for zerg.
The all-in was a mistake in the first place. If there is one T build you don't want to all-in with roaches, it's fast siege tanks. He just got lucky tank positioning wasn't optimal and painuser was lacking rines.
In a way, he predicted ('metagamed' in your terms) what idra would do (roach all-in), chose the most econ build to try and defend but Idra came out on top anyhow.
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On May 10 2011 04:03 Sqq wrote:
haha, incontrol, "2 hellion counter" :D
He kills a drone!
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On May 10 2011 04:12 Engore wrote:
Too soon.
Why ? There are way to many overly PC people on TL.
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Ouch that joke was painful. Explaining it just makes it more cringeworthy.
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bad jokes and heavy breathing in the mic. mmmmmm
not a paticularly succesful attempt at bunker pressure from painuser
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On May 10 2011 04:15 Flew wrote:
Ouch that joke was painful. Explaining it just makes it more cringeworthy.
Not to mention they missed the fairly obvious fact that the game is pretty much over by now. An uneconomical 2 rax that hardly does any damage, loosing a load of marines, SCV's and delaying econ further with bunkers that didn't do anything. There's no real comeback from that to be honest.
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On May 10 2011 04:00 Moochlol wrote:
Anyone else hear Geoff's nose shooting hot man air into the mic =p???
edit, actually i cant tell if its gretorp or geoff now lol
lol i thought that was me. thought my mic was on and i was hearing me through my headphones. i check and see it's turned off.. what's going onnnn? is this some sick practical joke from a roommate?
glad it's from the stream
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Double Osama build...omg Gretorp...
Can't be long till the first Hitler joke when he sees a bunker.
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