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Zuor
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland377 Posts
May 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#1701
On May 05 2011 20:18 human_ko wrote:
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On May 05 2011 20:15 Zuor wrote:
Fixed brackets for the RO4:

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[image loading]


how come fixed if the brackets were different from the start? I mean I must be misunderstanding something or the picture is wrong


The brackets were wrong at first. These brackets were shown in the end of the day and even Tastosis said that they got the brackets wrong at first (where Nada and sC were playing each other) and confirmed that this bracket is in fact the right one.
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
May 05 2011 11:31 GMT
#1702
On May 05 2011 20:22 Kiyo. wrote:
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On May 05 2011 20:18 syllogism wrote:
Anypro did a bad build in game 4 which only works if the zerg is pretty terrible so it didn't particularly matter what nestea did after that as he was so far ahead


...What? Stargate is a bad build? The only reason it didn't work is because Nestea blind countered it with tons of corruptors.



Lol, you think nestea would just blindly make corruptors?
Bastilol
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany129 Posts
May 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#1703
Well he saw that there was no Warpgate ready with his lings in the front so its pretty save to assume that there is heavy stargate incoming
Artosis - "Dr. House is Idra in doctor form"
kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
May 05 2011 11:35 GMT
#1704
Yeah game 1 of Nestea vs Anypro was awesome. I remember seeing that build on one of the first Funday Mondays, I believe that was the "No Queens" episode. Never seen it since then.

That game is at 98% recommended right now. Anyone know if that's the highest recommended game in GSL LR threads thus far?
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
May 05 2011 11:35 GMT
#1705
On May 05 2011 20:26 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:22 Kiyo. wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:18 syllogism wrote:
Anypro did a bad build in game 4 which only works if the zerg is pretty terrible so it didn't particularly matter what nestea did after that as he was so far ahead


...What? Stargate is a bad build? The only reason it didn't work is because Nestea blind countered it with tons of corruptors.


Anypro also threw away a lot of phoenix to spores, and around 3 of them were in red hp from drone harass.

People think corruptors are good against void rays and phoenix. They are not. They are good vs phoenix, and cheaper than voids, but when you mix phoenix to tank the shots and voids to DPS the corruptors, it beats them pretty badly. Anypro attacked too soon with too few stargate units.


Nah corruptors beat a mix of phoenix and voids quite hard. Pure voids slightly beat corruptors but still corruptors are a fine counter as zerg can usually be economically ahead against stargate play.
Hydra's are only a fine counter if you can pressure with them, like happened in g2 for example. If the map is hard to pressure like in g3 then hydra's lose eventually because they are just too immobile.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
May 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#1706
Up&down groups get determined tomorrow if they use the same schedule as last time, looking forward to that almost more than code A finals
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
May 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#1707
On May 05 2011 20:31 HuHEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:22 Kiyo. wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:18 syllogism wrote:
Anypro did a bad build in game 4 which only works if the zerg is pretty terrible so it didn't particularly matter what nestea did after that as he was so far ahead


...What? Stargate is a bad build? The only reason it didn't work is because Nestea blind countered it with tons of corruptors.



Lol, you think nestea would just blindly make corruptors?


He suspected somethign was up. He blindly started pooling resources to make them in the event that pheonix's/void ray's were spotted. As soon as he saw them, he already had spire done and made the corruptors. It's not a bad decision and it's great starsense. I don't understand why some people have a problem with the term "blind counter". There's such a thing as a smart blind counter. And it's exactly what Nestea did. It was smart, worked perfectly, and won him the game.

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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
May 05 2011 11:38 GMT
#1708
On May 05 2011 20:37 syllogism wrote:
Up&down groups get determined tomorrow if they use the same schedule as last time, looking forward to that almost more than code A finals


Why? The Code A finals should be pretty amazing. This could be a future Code S finals. Both players are very very good.
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Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
May 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#1709
with the patch 1.3.3 coming up, i don't how protoss can FE anymore. Even if u do, it's going to be low economically with all the extra pylon and cannon forced to.
Zefa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
May 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#1710
On May 05 2011 20:35 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:26 Mailing wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:22 Kiyo. wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:18 syllogism wrote:
Anypro did a bad build in game 4 which only works if the zerg is pretty terrible so it didn't particularly matter what nestea did after that as he was so far ahead


...What? Stargate is a bad build? The only reason it didn't work is because Nestea blind countered it with tons of corruptors.


Anypro also threw away a lot of phoenix to spores, and around 3 of them were in red hp from drone harass.

People think corruptors are good against void rays and phoenix. They are not. They are good vs phoenix, and cheaper than voids, but when you mix phoenix to tank the shots and voids to DPS the corruptors, it beats them pretty badly. Anypro attacked too soon with too few stargate units.


Nah corruptors beat a mix of phoenix and voids quite hard. Pure voids slightly beat corruptors but still corruptors are a fine counter as zerg can usually be economically ahead against stargate play.
Hydra's are only a fine counter if you can pressure with them, like happened in g2 for example. If the map is hard to pressure like in g3 then hydra's lose eventually because they are just too immobile.


Pure corruptors isn't that great vs void/phoenix but you're right nestea just had an overwhelming econ advantage to beat anypro air to air. It also didn't help during the crucial push into the main with voids and phoenixes, that anypro was fighting over a spore crawler that got an insane amount of hits off on the phoenixes and voids.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
May 05 2011 11:40 GMT
#1711
On May 05 2011 20:38 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:37 syllogism wrote:
Up&down groups get determined tomorrow if they use the same schedule as last time, looking forward to that almost more than code A finals


Why? The Code A finals should be pretty amazing. This could be a future Code S finals. Both players are very very good.

There's not much on the line and there's so much drama involved in the group drawing
DetrA
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
May 05 2011 11:42 GMT
#1712
On May 05 2011 20:37 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:31 HuHEN wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:22 Kiyo. wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:18 syllogism wrote:
Anypro did a bad build in game 4 which only works if the zerg is pretty terrible so it didn't particularly matter what nestea did after that as he was so far ahead


...What? Stargate is a bad build? The only reason it didn't work is because Nestea blind countered it with tons of corruptors.



Lol, you think nestea would just blindly make corruptors?


He suspected somethign was up. He blindly started pooling resources to make them in the event that pheonix's/void ray's were spotted. As soon as he saw them, he already had spire done and made the corruptors. It's not a bad decision and it's great starsense. I don't understand why some people have a problem with the term "blind counter". There's such a thing as a smart blind counter. And it's exactly what Nestea did. It was smart, worked perfectly, and won him the game.



Blind counter means without any information that suggests it might me coming this isn't the case in this situation.
"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence." -Calvin Coolidge
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 05 2011 11:43 GMT
#1713
On May 05 2011 20:22 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:18 syllogism wrote:
Anypro did a bad build in game 4 which only works if the zerg is pretty terrible so it didn't particularly matter what nestea did after that as he was so far ahead


...What? Stargate is a bad build? The only reason it didn't work is because Nestea blind countered it with tons of corruptors.


forge first then 4 cannons before nexus finishes into 15 minute gateway is kind of sloppy, especially when he just did double stargate against a smart player.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
May 05 2011 11:48 GMT
#1714
On May 05 2011 20:22 tyrless wrote:
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On May 05 2011 20:20 imfilichino wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:17 zocktol wrote:
[image loading]

All i can say to Nestea today


HAHAHAHAHA perfect.


wow this gif is amazing lol


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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 05 2011 11:48 GMT
#1715
On May 05 2011 20:40 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 20:38 Kiyo. wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:37 syllogism wrote:
Up&down groups get determined tomorrow if they use the same schedule as last time, looking forward to that almost more than code A finals


Why? The Code A finals should be pretty amazing. This could be a future Code S finals. Both players are very very good.

There's not much on the line and there's so much drama involved in the group drawing

And that's what i hate about Code A ... just look at the + Show Spoiler +
Bomber interview "My reason for playing this tournament out till the end is to gauge the skill level of the players that will participate in the upcoming super tournament. And so far, I feel secure in my skill level compared to the other players. But since I have made it to the finals, I feel like I have to win."

Imo there is really too few on the line at Code A, they should let the winner auto qualify for Code S or something similar imo.
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
May 05 2011 11:49 GMT
#1716
On May 05 2011 20:18 SolHeiM wrote:
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On May 05 2011 20:16 shabby wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:16 KoolAidMan wrote:
On May 05 2011 20:13 Rayansaki wrote:
Nestea doing a 5 base all in, this is ridiculous!


Imba matchup, it was the only way Nestea could ever hope to win.


Lol what? At what point was that an all-in?


Obviously it was an all-in. If NesTea hadn't won that game he would've lost. Totally all-in.


Haha, you win the thread!
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 05 2011 12:02 GMT
#1717
Why are there 372 votes for Nestea vs anypro game 1? All the lurkers suddenly unburrowed?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 12:04:42
May 05 2011 12:04 GMT
#1718
On May 05 2011 21:02 pdd wrote:
Why are there 372 votes for Nestea vs anypro game 1? All the lurkers suddenly unburrowed?


Nestea hacked in Scourge.

(Know the answer if you were looking for it, but the entire game is worth watching for the full 2 minutes where Tastosis are all like "What is nestea doing? I don't quite...OH MY GOD!" I dont want to spoil it for you if you havent seen it)
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 05 2011 12:06 GMT
#1719
On May 05 2011 21:04 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 21:02 pdd wrote:
Why are there 372 votes for Nestea vs anypro game 1? All the lurkers suddenly unburrowed?


Nestea hacked in Scourge.

(Know the answer if you were looking for it, but the entire game is worth watching for the full 2 minutes where Tastosis are all like "What is nestea doing? I don't quite...OH MY GOD!" I dont want to spoil it for you if you havent seen it)

I actually spoiled myself. But like was just strange to see 372 people suddenly just come out like that and remain hidden for the other polls.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 05 2011 12:06 GMT
#1720
On May 05 2011 21:02 pdd wrote:
Why are there 372 votes for Nestea vs anypro game 1? All the lurkers suddenly unburrowed?

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