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brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
April 24 2011 04:47 GMT
#921
On April 24 2011 13:42 Heaton31 wrote:
Didn't MC just win a tournament today? I don't think an elite player like MC has to win every single game to be considered 'not slumping'.

He still lost quite a lot in a couple of days. But well, you probably can't call it a slump yet.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
April 24 2011 04:47 GMT
#922
On April 24 2011 13:42 ImHuko wrote:
Why is the sound still screwed up? I keep giving this tournament another chance and everytime I start watching, theres always still shitty sound

On April 24 2011 10:11 Xeris wrote:
We've actually got a sound tech guy coming tomorrow so we're hoping that all our audio problems will be fixed by next week's broadcasts. We're working on improving day by day!

It should be better from now on. That's from page 3.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
April 24 2011 04:47 GMT
#923
Well, I'm pretty sure MC knew Ret's only chance was to Nydus in, but somehow he was really slow to react :S
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:48:41
April 24 2011 04:48 GMT
#924
On April 24 2011 13:42 Techno wrote:
MC Slumping: coincidence that he has a girlfriend?


Probably. I doubt MC's girlfriend helps him plan for tournaments.

Boxer's girlfriend watches replays of his upcoming opponents and tells him their tendencies. That's a good progamer girlfriend.
Sami`
Profile Joined March 2011
89 Posts
April 24 2011 04:48 GMT
#925
On April 24 2011 13:43 KobeLobster wrote:
MC probably thought he could take the nydus with his voidray - that might explain his lackluster response to the nydus in his base.


He probably just didn't notice it quickly, sure he had a pylon there but unless you are looking at it its just a red dot on the minimap that you expect to see anyway since there is an overlord.

I don't think he'd be expecting Ret to drop a Nydus in sight of his pylon either.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:49:38
April 24 2011 04:48 GMT
#926
On April 24 2011 13:45 Preatorion wrote:
I don't understand why MC has changed his play style to these new FE super greedy builds. Due to those builds he lost his chances at winning GSL May and now just got 2-0'd in the NASL.

C'mon MC, Kraytos isn't that greedy.


Even 4/6-gate is risky in the sense that if your opponent is prepared for it they can defend it. Zerg in particular has a nice burrow timing that counters it, which Idra demonstrated against Huk in the MLG, I think.

MC is probably trying to switch it up because otherwise he becomes too predictable, but he just can't resist taking the big risks in the builds he does.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
April 24 2011 04:48 GMT
#927
The god of war has fallen...
Imerej
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada291 Posts
April 24 2011 04:48 GMT
#928
On April 24 2011 13:44 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Incontrol is so condescending towards Gretorp all the time and I don't really think it looks professional even if it's all jokes.


Chill it's fine :p I don't see why everyone wants starcraft to be super "professional". I enjoyed the casting today it was pretty funny ^.^ The personality and humor of starcraft casters are what I enjoy most about them.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
April 24 2011 04:49 GMT
#929
On April 24 2011 13:45 Preatorion wrote:
I don't understand why MC has changed his play style to these new FE super greedy builds. Due to those builds he lost his chances at winning GSL May and now just got 2-0'd in the NASL.

C'mon MC, Kraytos isn't that greedy.


I think it has something to do with the fact that he heard and read all of the comments that were directed towards him by critics and haters, and by hearing those he's trying new things out to prove those people wrong. Unfortunately, tournament play isn't exactly the right stage to practice and try new things out, and I think MC just did those builds without practicing them on ladder or in customs.
Heaton31
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:49:47
April 24 2011 04:49 GMT
#930
On April 24 2011 13:47 brentsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:42 Heaton31 wrote:
Didn't MC just win a tournament today? I don't think an elite player like MC has to win every single game to be considered 'not slumping'.

He still lost quite a lot in a couple of days. But well, you probably can't call it a slump yet.


Well, yeah. But GSL notwithstanding if MC doesn't win every tournament he enters I don't think it means that much. I'm a fan of MC but there are other great players out there. I don't get the shock when guys like him lose.

I mean, it's not like he's out of NASL now.
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:50:32
April 24 2011 04:49 GMT
#931
On April 24 2011 13:48 NoobSh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:44 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Incontrol is so condescending towards Gretorp all the time and I don't really think it looks professional even if it's all jokes.


Chill it's fine :p I don't see why everyone wants starcraft to be super "professional". I enjoyed the casting today it was pretty funny ^.^ The personality and humor of starcraft casters are what I enjoy most about them.


This. We`re all gamers and nerds here man. No one that gives a shit about being professional watches starcraft 2 matches online.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 24 2011 04:49 GMT
#932
Hey Zergs, USE NYDUS WORMS!

I kid I kid
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ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
April 24 2011 04:50 GMT
#933
On April 24 2011 13:47 TheGrimace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:42 ImHuko wrote:
Why is the sound still screwed up? I keep giving this tournament another chance and everytime I start watching, theres always still shitty sound

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 10:11 Xeris wrote:
We've actually got a sound tech guy coming tomorrow so we're hoping that all our audio problems will be fixed by next week's broadcasts. We're working on improving day by day!

It should be better from now on. That's from page 3.

Ahh then that is pretty good. I don't exactly see why it takes a tech guy to fix the sound, it is a pretty easy thing to fix. You simply turn down the music you run overtop, lol. Silly or not, good thing they are fixing it.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 24 2011 04:50 GMT
#934
On April 24 2011 13:45 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:43 red_ wrote:
On April 24 2011 13:39 Scribble wrote:
I really don't mean to take anything away from Ret, but MC seems to be slumping pretty hard. Either that, or he's been completely figured out and hasn't adopted a new style yet. Either way, Ret played well and took his openings.


He's not slumping all that hard, even the best player loses games now and then. Compared to the other games of his from today(he was broadcast in 2 other series of high high level play) it felt like he just didn't take this one seriously at all... NOBODY has stopped his aggressive gateway play in PvZ yet, I figure if he really cared about the games he would just do it.

Saying 'not to take anything away from Ret' in my post would be like saying 'no offense' before a racist remark, I guess I am discrediting Ret's win in a sense... but from Rets perspective who gives a shit he has been needing a win since Assembly so he probably doesn't care how it came, win = confidence and he needed some.

Saying that Ret won because MC didn't care isn't much better than saying he won because MC is slumping tbh..


First, I did address that in my post. Second, even if he isn't deploying his tried and true unstoppable 4/6gates in this PvZ, beating MC's anything is an accomplishment(people bitch about his cannon rushing all the time), so it's not like I'm saying he threw the match and gave Ret free wins; Ret still 2-0'd a fantastic player who may or may not have been taking it as seriously as he .. should have?(that's a lot of money at the end of the rainbow to be digging an early hole in group play).

I still stick to my post though, I just don't see how against a zerg that time and time again has shown EXTREME weakness to early game pressure, if he really felt the need to win he doesn't just 3 gate expand->6 gate, or 4gate.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 04:52:29
April 24 2011 04:50 GMT
#935
On April 24 2011 13:45 Preatorion wrote:
I don't understand why MC has changed his play style to these new FE super greedy builds. Due to those builds he lost his chances at winning GSL May and now just got 2-0'd in the NASL.

C'mon MC, Kraytos isn't that greedy.


Maybe he just wants to be a more varied player. He already knows his timing attacks/aggression are great so it could be he wants to work on the defensive aspect of his play. Or maybe he knows Blizzard will nerf his build if he continues to use it to win everytime .

In the long run, it's good for him to have a variety of builds.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 24 2011 04:51 GMT
#936
On April 24 2011 13:50 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:47 TheGrimace wrote:
On April 24 2011 13:42 ImHuko wrote:
Why is the sound still screwed up? I keep giving this tournament another chance and everytime I start watching, theres always still shitty sound

On April 24 2011 10:11 Xeris wrote:
We've actually got a sound tech guy coming tomorrow so we're hoping that all our audio problems will be fixed by next week's broadcasts. We're working on improving day by day!

It should be better from now on. That's from page 3.

Ahh then that is pretty good. I don't exactly see why it takes a tech guy to fix the sound, it is a pretty easy thing to fix. You simply turn down the music you run overtop, lol. Silly or not, good thing they are fixing it.

the music didnt get really loud until the end. the audio was much better throughout the cast. the things they need to fix now is incontrols mic and the game sounds seemed muffled today.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 24 2011 04:53 GMT
#937
Lol people thinking MC is slumping. It's not like he just + Show Spoiler +
won copenhagen by beating Morrow 3-1 and Kas 4-0 today.
MC used a bad build in game 1 and was slow to react in game 2. When he starts losing games due to being out-micro'd, then you can start calling slump.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
April 24 2011 04:54 GMT
#938
On April 24 2011 13:51 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:50 ImHuko wrote:
On April 24 2011 13:47 TheGrimace wrote:
On April 24 2011 13:42 ImHuko wrote:
Why is the sound still screwed up? I keep giving this tournament another chance and everytime I start watching, theres always still shitty sound

On April 24 2011 10:11 Xeris wrote:
We've actually got a sound tech guy coming tomorrow so we're hoping that all our audio problems will be fixed by next week's broadcasts. We're working on improving day by day!

It should be better from now on. That's from page 3.

Ahh then that is pretty good. I don't exactly see why it takes a tech guy to fix the sound, it is a pretty easy thing to fix. You simply turn down the music you run overtop, lol. Silly or not, good thing they are fixing it.

the music didnt get really loud until the end. the audio was much better throughout the cast. the things they need to fix now is incontrols mic and the game sounds seemed muffled today.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the issue with the game sounds would be from, but inc's mic has a compressor that sounds like it's set way too aggressively. Basically, when he yells the compressor is making him extremely quiet, so we're actually hearing his voice mostly through gretorp's, which is why it has that huge echo. You're hearing the room. But they have a pro coming in, I'm sure he'll work his magic and all will be right with the world.
yiodee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States137 Posts
April 24 2011 04:54 GMT
#939
On April 24 2011 13:49 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:48 NoobSh1t wrote:
On April 24 2011 13:44 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Incontrol is so condescending towards Gretorp all the time and I don't really think it looks professional even if it's all jokes.


Chill it's fine :p I don't see why everyone wants starcraft to be super "professional". I enjoyed the casting today it was pretty funny ^.^ The personality and humor of starcraft casters are what I enjoy most about them.


This. We`re all gamers and nerds here man. No one that gives a shit about being professional watches starcraft 2 matches online.

Its simple man, for esports to become mainstream on the west we need to broadcast quality content. If our casters aren't professional, the general public might not like the showing as much as say....football games and their commentators. I mean they also joke around but it is not as "unprofessional" as what grentorp and incontrol did
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
April 24 2011 04:54 GMT
#940
Holy shit, nice job ret! Missed the games, but contemplating buying a ticket just to see those :D
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