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On March 07 2011 18:45 MrProb wrote: Nothing personal against Kelly but her casting today is kinda .... umm.Barely understand a single sentence from her (im asian Y_Y)
DoA is doing a great job tho, considered its his first time.
Agreed, Kelly seems like a nice person, and I'm sure her insight would be great in other formats (e.g. written), but I really prefer the new caster & tastetosis over her.
This duo is lacking slightly in the 'fun' department, artosis & tasteless do a great job with making their audience laugh as well as commentating on the games. Hopefully we will get to see the new guy with tastetosis at some point so we can see his good commentating infused with some humor.
On March 07 2011 18:41 Kyhol wrote: I figured that Huk would lose, but not like that, I felt like watching a rookie BW mistake. When you're FEing with cannons you need to make sure the zerg isn't going all-in. He tried to scout with his first probe, but I think a 2nd probe was needed for confirmation. Huk's a good player, he'll come back. I heard he's working harder than anyone else in the house.
Did you miss the failed cannon rush?
Of course not. Huk made another mistake not canceling at least 1 of the cannons, preferably the first cannon he built. Cannon rushing while FE is standard imo, but I don't play protoss anymore.
HuK could have probably won if he built the cannons and pylon outside of the vision of the hatch, since Losira wouldn't have seen it until his hatch had popped.
LOL, not a single zerg here attacking HuK seems to understand the forge-fe build for Protoss vs Zerg. You MUST cannon the natural and force a cancel or a zerg double expands, and crushes you. This is invariably true. If you feel compelled to argue it, do not; use the search function and you will be proven wrong.
HuK did not cheese Losira, that is the appropriate way to forge FE on maps without small chokes (such as Xel Naga or Metal). The cannons are supposed to be canceled, he just did not do it in time. Please understand cheese before crying it. Losira responded appropriate to HuK's play with an all in. No more so than the terrans who punished zerg hatch first with the 2rax/rine all in.
On March 07 2011 18:46 DystopiaX wrote: I don't think cannon rush/bunker rush will be as effective anymore; pros just got too much practice against it.
IdrA said that HuK is the only to still cannon rush.
On March 07 2011 18:39 tirentu wrote: Did he just do a ceremony after an all-in? There's something really horrible about that.
So canon-rushing isn't all-in? lol, good logic.
Huk simply got outplayed totally, Losira is really good. Maybe next time Huk! Still a hope for foreigners.
What Huk did wasn't an all in lol.... he expanded off of it.
So if any other protoss player went canon rushing and then expanded after failing, it's considered all in? ooohhh. just admit it, it was a failed canon rush. he thought zerg was playing passive that's why he expanded as well in hope to make up for the 550minerals waste. losira simply outplayed him wayyyyyy lot. not talking bad about huk, he was my first idol of sc2 and his plays are interesting, better off the standard playstyles. but his just not good enough to win losira IMO.
On March 07 2011 18:48 Xswordy wrote: Huk shouldn't have cheesed , he could've won in a straight match. On the other hand losira looks pretty solid , hope he wins code A.
It isn't cheesing by putting cannons next to a hatch first Zerg, btw. It is standard, punishment for going hatch first. Similar to 2rax pressure vs Z going hatch first. It isn't cheesy, it is a pressure designed to counter it.