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On May 08 2010 06:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Lol, this is really taking your vendetta against demuslim too far :[

The observers who did this should be blacklisted.

Excellent 3rd/4th and 1st/2nd place games, awesome tournament overall :D! I liked Demu's build in game 5, reminded me of SC1 vulture expos... but sort of inside-out/upside down, reversed... something

On May 08 2010 07:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Also I want to take this opportunity to call out the people that didn't leave the game 2 of DeMuslim vs DIMAGA when it was lagging and they were asked to leave. Both these guys stayed in the game unnecessary when asked to leave. The game was continued (I strongly disagree with this) with them in the game and continued to lag throughout until the end. Game 3 they weren't allowed to join anymore and were played without lag.

superxpym from SC2TV.ru
thebest from Millenium

These organizations should come out and apologize for this major fuckup. Until then I really hope tournaments refuse observers from these organizations in order to protect their player interests.

On May 08 2010 06:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Another great series that must have been a relief for Razer and Zotac. The previous rounds didn't really deliver fireworks, at least speaking for my own games. Awesome final to an awesome tournament.

On May 08 2010 07:51 UbiNax wrote:
Awesome finals, a shame game 2 had to be as it was.... they should have remade the game without all the random observers and only let 3 streamers in as they did for the rest of the matches...


and wtf was that about an obs who contacted DeMuslim and startet flaming?? such a rude nerd

On May 08 2010 07:57 PownEr wrote:
ZOTAC hasnt to do anything with this cup. I just have 1 b.net account and that is the ZOTAC one. But thats just a little fact .

I just want to say thanks to all participants and all Streamers.I hope you enjoyed this tournement and sorry for all the small problems we had during this time.

Greetings

On May 08 2010 07:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:.

superxpym from SC2TV.ru
thebest from Millenium

These organizations should come out and apologize for this major fuckup. Until then I really hope tournaments refuse observers from these organizations in order to protect their player interests.

On May 08 2010 11:25 DeMusliM wrote:
Well i'd just like to say gz Dimaga before i say anything else - he's the guy i always like to meet at the end of a tournament rather than the start - (when we were both placed in the same group at the start of this tournament, i must say i was a little torn about it). But thankfully we met again in the end! Group B ftw.

Ok, but about the obs that just wouldn't leave in the 2nd game, i cannot express how angry this made me - If i was lagging, and i was an observer - i would not hesitate for a second to leave, i class it just as common decency - i ALMOST think of it as rude to lag (as it usually hints at downloading/tabbing) but obviously at times people just can't help it which is why they should leave.
Now, i waited for a long time with the game paused and i asked over 10x for people to leave and just let day9 stay, some people left - thanks for that, some people didn't and so the game was just a mess. Any observer, i don't care if your streaming - if your ruining the game, just leave - this should be implemented into everyones mindset - it is the players first, then admins, then the streamers - not the other way round.
I was pretty damn mannered about it, and a player, ANY player should not have to ask 10x and get ignored - especially when it's a bloody final and these guys are holding up everyone.
After this situation i was just soooo angry, i don't think i need to tell anyone here, since we're all gamers - once your frustrated you play alot worse.

What also didn't help was, some people took it upon themselves to spam me with abuse, or spam "WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" over and over again, one name i remember was "TRES" who wouldn't stop talking - then went on to flame me constantly and yes, spam my screen with garbage - unfortunately dnd doesn't work properly or bugs sometimes, and i had to play game 4 with that going on.
I dunno when this became the norm, as i remember someone interfering with TLO vs White-ra also telling him what whitera was doing and when.
Obviously this isn't everyone doing this, but this has become a pretty big problem without DND working correctly, and i can't remember when a minority of people became such assholes.

So to finish it off - the people that left the game when asked, thanks for respecting the players themselves and the tournament, and the viewers on the rest of the streams. As for the guys who spoilt the game - well, hope their legs fall off? %)

Few things that you should take into consideration, it wasn't yours nor TeamLiquid's tournament, so neither of you or Day9 have any rights to order people to gtfo a game, no matter what your reasons are.
These kind of decisions should be left to a razer-domination admin.

Second thing, Day9 wasn't the only streamer, I know it might seem weird considering how good his comments usually are, but some people either don't like hearing english, can't comprehend it, or don't appreciate Day9's way of commentating a game.
There were several hundreds people watching some of these different streams, so you can't simply order people to shut them down when you feel like it.

On May 08 2010 13:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

Playing without lag is holy as long as there's obses in the game anyone can ask them to leave. Clearly the admins fully agreed with all the requests. When it comes to lag an admin is an extension of a players experience. And yes an English stream is a lot more universal so it has privilege over anything else for that reason. These are things that are really obvious.

This is your personal opinion, try to make it a rule if you like, but don't blame people for not doing what you want them to do because these kind of attitudes wouldn't help professionalizing e-sports.