• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:18
CEST 22:18
KST 05:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy5uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
New season has just come in ladder StarCraft player reflex TE scores BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Simultaneous Streaming by CasterMuse Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Bitcoin discussion thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 708 users

[G] PvT Cheese: Proxy Gate into Proxy Tempest

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-20 11:47:18
December 17 2020 10:53 GMT
#1
[image loading]

"It's not the voltage that kills. It's that big explosion afterwards!"

Introduction

We're going to proxy a second Gateway and use two Stalkers and a Zealot to pressure the Terran expansion, hopefully securing the low-ground and containing the Terran on one base. From there, we're going to further secure our contain with Shield Batteries and a Void Ray whilst rushing to Tempests as fast as possible. The resultant Tempest/Shield Battery/Cannon setup is incredibly difficult for the Terran to break and has gotten me a LOT of wins on the ladder!

Video Guide


Build Order
  • 14 Pylon (Chronoboost Probes Once When Complete)
  • 16 Gateway
  • 17 Assimilator
  • 18 Proxy Pylon
  • Cut Probes at 20 Supply!
  • 20 Proxy Gateway
  • 20 Cybernetics Core
  • 20 Zealot
  • Resume Probe Production
  • 23 Assimilator
  • Cut Probes at Full Saturation
  • @100% Cybernetics Core: 2x Stalker (Chronoboost Both), Shield Battery, Warpgate Research
  • @150 Minerals 150 Gas: Proxy Stargate
  • ASAP: Proxy Pylon for Shield Batteries
  • @100% Proxy Pylon: 3x Shield Battery
  • @100% Stargate: Void Ray (Chronoboost)
  • @150 Minerals: Forge
  • @300 Minerals 200 Gas: Fleet Beacon
  • @100% Fleet Beacon: Tempests!
Notes
  • If your two Stalker and one Zealot force can't secure the low-ground, make your Shield Battery proxy Pylon outside the Terran natural and assault them from there instead. A Void Ray bust can usually kill the Terran outright if they're not properly prepared. Just remember to get a Sentry so that you can prevent SCVs from mass-repairing Bunkers by using Forcefields!
  • Once your contain is solidified, patrol a unit between close-by-air Terran bases to make sure they don't float down a Command Centre without you realising it.
  • Make 3 Tempests and then an Oracle if the Terran rushes out Vikings. You need to start picking at them straight away, and the Oracle helps you do that. 3 Tempests two-shot Vikings, so it's a good break-point to use.
  • If the Terran doesn't rush out Vikings, go up to 5 Tempests before making an Oracle. You won't need to pick away at the Vikings quite as quickly and 5 Tempests can one-shot Vikings.
  • If the Terran tries a Cyclone response, remember that 4 Tempests one-shot Cyclones, and that Cyclones have a hard time getting down a ramp if there are lots of Cannons at the bottom!
Conclusion

This is a very strong contain that you can get to through numerous means. Both Cannon rushes and fast proxy Void Ray builds can also get you there. The reason I prefer this proxy second Gateway opening is because of the added pressure it allows you to put on the Terran in the very early game. I also like it because it can branch out into numerous other follow-ups that the Terran has to adjust differently for. For example, check out my YouTube channel for a solid Dark Templar transition that you can also use after opening with a proxied second Gateway!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
December 17 2020 19:53 GMT
#2
Nice guide. Clear instructions (particularly on when to chronoboost) and well mapped out timings. It seems like it would be really hard to defend against.
twitch.tv/duttroach
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
December 18 2020 12:07 GMT
#3
Welcome back. It has been a long time but I really enjoyed your older strategy posts (and this one) as well.

Would you consider getting the tempest upgrade at any point when you're doing this?
Year of MaxPax
iMECH_KolosS
Profile Joined November 2020
Canada61 Posts
December 18 2020 12:18 GMT
#4
As a Terran player, this is such a dirty build ! As a occasionnal Protoss player I like it ! :-)
Diamond Random Player
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-18 12:33:32
December 18 2020 12:31 GMT
#5
On December 18 2020 21:07 sudete wrote:
Would you consider getting the tempest upgrade at any point when you're doing this?

I played around with the upgrade when it was first introduced, but I don't think it makes any real difference.

It looks cool though.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
December 22 2020 14:05 GMT
#6
Terran here: Delete this thread, please
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-22 16:30:56
December 22 2020 16:08 GMT
#7
On December 22 2020 23:05 Jonas wrote:
Terran here: Delete this thread, please

This is the tip of the iceberg as far as my meme builds go. For instance, the 12 Pylon 13 Gate Void Ray build that I have on my YouTube channel is a far more ridiculous cheese:

+ Show Spoiler +
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 451
ProTech97
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15250
Larva 514
Mong 145
ggaemo 59
Hyun 53
Backho 34
soO 22
HiyA 19
NaDa 14
yabsab 9
Stormgate
UpATreeSC149
JuggernautJason94
Dota 2
Dendi1806
Pyrionflax182
syndereN126
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K267
Foxcn97
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby2970
Liquid`Hasu408
Other Games
PiGStarcraft268
ZombieGrub146
ViBE97
Trikslyr54
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 61
• davetesta34
• Reevou 3
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 57
• 80smullet 10
• Pr0nogo 4
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie2352
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 42m
The PondCast
13h 42m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
14h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
LiuLi Cup
1d 14h
Online Event
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
CSO Contender
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
4 days
RotterdaM Event
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.