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SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 08 2011 09:47 GMT
#21
Pretty sure fruit dealer does this. His timing is right before the bunkers finish and he runs his speedlings and surrounds everything and has banelings for whatever else ofc
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aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
February 08 2011 12:43 GMT
#22
On February 08 2011 09:14 michaelhasanalias wrote:
In addition, when they see you aren't expanding, their ramps will look something like this:

[image loading]

So.... what's your solution at this point?

Bust the tech lab, run to mineral line. When marines come, surround and kill, move back. Don't fight near bunker.

Works very well.

The idea is that you need to bust through the wall. You don't want to have to kill off bunkers etc if you don't want to. You want to kill SCV's.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
February 08 2011 13:12 GMT
#23
On February 08 2011 18:42 rmAmnesiac wrote:
nice rant. and in fairness you have a valid point however it always helps to read the actual strategy and post in question, and if you had you would see that this point is entirely irrelevant in this case.


Just a response to you, already responded to OP :-D
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TearDrop
Profile Joined January 2011
63 Posts
February 08 2011 13:17 GMT
#24
On February 08 2011 09:20 athief wrote:
1) Feint is spelled like so.
2) Where are you going to hide the Baneling Nest? A scan is roughly the same are as you initial creep spread, and banelings are the typical followup to a wall/bio (early game).


You cancel the hatch and put a baneling nest on the leftover creep.
@anyone saying this is easily countered, the point is to make the terran think you expanded and making him feel safe.
TibblesEvilCat
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom766 Posts
February 08 2011 13:21 GMT
#25
this is a trickey strat, i doupt it will work vs mid masters though, i find they all do some kinda of poke that can lead into early agression even off a 1.1.1 build
Live Fast Die Young :D
Xax
Profile Joined December 2003
475 Posts
February 23 2011 13:24 GMT
#26
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Actually that's what Julyzerg did to kill MVP at their second match in GSL 5
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
February 23 2011 18:23 GMT
#27
On February 23 2011 22:24 Xax wrote:
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Actually that's what Julyzerg did to kill MVP at their second match in GSL 5


It actually wasn't, because this build doesn't take an expansion, while July got his natural up.

The reason this worked so well was because this was a Baneling bust that happened before the second base really gave any benefit at all. Usually the timing window for the 2 Base economic Baneling bust is much much later, after the Zerg has droned enough to saturate two bases, and then can focus on massing units.

MVP expected at least another few minutes of zero aggression but July played trickily and caught at the absolute weakest moment possible. Well played by him.

It wasn't a fake speedling expand though =[ Sorry!
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