• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:23
CET 20:23
KST 04:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation7Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
Back In The Day.... BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1477 users

[M] (2) Wolfschanze - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 15 2013 14:25 GMT
#41
The laziest part of the aesthetics on this is where you can see at 1 and 7 oclock where that cliff used to be round and he later decided to make it bump in there. He didn't bother to fix the texturing and you can still see the outline of the cliff on the unplayable bottom. No other reason for it to be that way.
SC2 Mapmaker
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 15 2013 14:43 GMT
#42
Please don't make wide wide open neutrals anymore. There is a race called protoss guys, which couldn't have depots to rise... Other than that 2 base baneling bust with ling support would win majority of the games on that map. Pretty zerg favored.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
April 15 2013 22:32 GMT
#43
On April 15 2013 20:58 iamcaustic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 11:23 Ovalient wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:07 dezi wrote:
I don't think we need nazi reminiscence in this game - aka change the name - esp. if using names that are most likely associated with Hitler.

If you really want to use a name of that time sth like El Alamain would be (accordingly to the theme) more fitting ...


I'm really sorry that I made all arguments..
I didn't know about that name, just know 'cool name'

My WW2 Historical knowledge is limited. Only know Attack on Pearl Harbor thing..
Sorry everybody. I will never do this thing again.
REALLY SORRY.

Don't feel too bad, Ovalient! Nobody is angry with you. Just take some time to think of a different cool map name~

seconded.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 15 2013 23:20 GMT
#44
On April 16 2013 07:32 EatThePath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 20:58 iamcaustic wrote:
On April 15 2013 11:23 Ovalient wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:07 dezi wrote:
I don't think we need nazi reminiscence in this game - aka change the name - esp. if using names that are most likely associated with Hitler.

If you really want to use a name of that time sth like El Alamain would be (accordingly to the theme) more fitting ...


I'm really sorry that I made all arguments..
I didn't know about that name, just know 'cool name'

My WW2 Historical knowledge is limited. Only know Attack on Pearl Harbor thing..
Sorry everybody. I will never do this thing again.
REALLY SORRY.

Don't feel too bad, Ovalient! Nobody is angry with you. Just take some time to think of a different cool map name~

seconded.

seconded-ed
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
April 15 2013 23:23 GMT
#45
You have a really good eye lore, now i can't unsee it ~.~
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 15 2013 23:53 GMT
#46
On April 16 2013 08:23 Uvantak wrote:
You have a really good eye lore, now i can't unsee it ~.~

Mua ha ha ha.......
SC2 Mapmaker
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
April 16 2013 01:42 GMT
#47
The name makes me think more of those Neo-Nazi Clubs/bars/Hangouts, they are often named Wolfsschanze. I am gonna be a grammer-nazi now (haha) and point out that Wolfsschanze is written with 2 s'es... oh god this post turned out very creepy. plx dont ban.
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Samro225am
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany982 Posts
April 16 2013 07:21 GMT
#48
it might be a minor flaw. nat mineral/cc and one third of the main look very tank-able. just saying, because the main/nat/thirds setup looks very compact.
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
April 16 2013 09:35 GMT
#49
You should really change the name of the map, otherwise no German tournament organizer will ever add it to a map pool simply because of that.
PuppyPrime
Profile Joined April 2013
27 Posts
April 16 2013 11:25 GMT
#50
Bullshit! Unless its called D-Day or something no German cares. Its not called "Heil Hitler" Idiots, so no need of a Namechange!
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
April 16 2013 11:30 GMT
#51
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 11:54:30
April 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#52
Are you serious?
After the swastika-broodwar-map clone, this one is now another step towards a very terfifying German "newspaper" report about SCII.

Harher tone and therefore spoilered:
+ Show Spoiler +
Give this map such a nickname is like glorifying the "cultural" heritage of one of the darkest eras of humanity. Even if you can't relate to what happened here (where I live) during that time, think about what such a name would cause. I don't really care if your map gets neglected/banned from every possible tournament or the blizzard arcade itself - No, I'd rather appreciate that. But I don't want such a stupidly named map to pave the way for dumber ones.
To help you finding a better name, here are some of my ideas:
*) Bel'Ovaliant is a bad and uncreative mapmaker who has to raise attention for his bad map by giving it horrendous names'-beach
*) Shaku'Really, Ovaliant, think before using such terms'-plateau
*) Steps of "Whatever dude, your map is bad anyways and will be forgotten soon, bye"


edit:
On April 16 2013 20:30 cythaze wrote:
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....


Yes, because people watching tournaments because of a map with such a name is exactly, what the SC2 scene needs.
I really always wanted to see GSL fans throwing trash-cans and beer bottles at the Korean police after every GSL tournament day.
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
April 16 2013 12:28 GMT
#53
On April 16 2013 20:51 Prugelhugel wrote:
Are you serious?
After the swastika-broodwar-map clone, this one is now another step towards a very terfifying German "newspaper" report about SCII.

Harher tone and therefore spoilered:
+ Show Spoiler +
Give this map such a nickname is like glorifying the "cultural" heritage of one of the darkest eras of humanity. Even if you can't relate to what happened here (where I live) during that time, think about what such a name would cause. I don't really care if your map gets neglected/banned from every possible tournament or the blizzard arcade itself - No, I'd rather appreciate that. But I don't want such a stupidly named map to pave the way for dumber ones.
To help you finding a better name, here are some of my ideas:
*) Bel'Ovaliant is a bad and uncreative mapmaker who has to raise attention for his bad map by giving it horrendous names'-beach
*) Shaku'Really, Ovaliant, think before using such terms'-plateau
*) Steps of "Whatever dude, your map is bad anyways and will be forgotten soon, bye"


edit:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:30 cythaze wrote:
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....


Yes, because people watching tournaments because of a map with such a name is exactly, what the SC2 scene needs.
I really always wanted to see GSL fans throwing trash-cans and beer bottles at the Korean police after every GSL tournament day.


Ok, where in Austria do you exactly live where people are offended by a computer game map that´s called Wolfsschanze...
Giving a map that name would cause nothing not a big political uproar and riots in the street lol.
blarkh
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 13:01:12
April 16 2013 13:00 GMT
#54
I live in Vienna and I'd be offended if ovalient hadn't already explained it to be a mistake on his part. People here tend to take Nazis seriously, and most of them don't like them a lot. Also I feel like Prugelhugel was making a comparison between football fans and SCII fans here and trying to show you how most of them aren't drunk racist pigs. (Most of the SC fans, that is. Very probably most football fans aren't either, but there sure is a loud minority.)

edit: Are you trying to insult us Germans and Austrians by implying we're all Nazis anyways or are you just ignorant enough to believe we don't care deeply about these things?
Eiskaffee
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany31 Posts
April 16 2013 18:48 GMT
#55
The name of the map is so stupid and its even wrong spelled.
Corak
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany188 Posts
April 16 2013 19:24 GMT
#56
On April 16 2013 20:25 PuppyPrime wrote:
Bullshit! Unless its called D-Day or something no German cares. Its not called "Heil Hitler" Idiots, so no need of a Namechange!


On April 16 2013 20:30 cythaze wrote:
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....


Troll much?
But it's rather stupid to do so on a serious subject and after there are 2.5 pages mainly about the title and an apology from the mapper.

If you want German words that maybe sound good to non-Germans here are some suggestion that kinda fit the map:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sandsturm - dust storm
Hitzeschild - heat shield
Wassermangel - water deficiency
Trockenzeit - dry season
Bodenverlust - loss in soil

this is harder than i thought :/
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
April 17 2013 00:55 GMT
#57
Wow Trockenzeit is such a cool name for a map. !
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Jaiden
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 08:23:09
April 17 2013 08:22 GMT
#58
There are a lot of cool German words you could use, who wouldn't be burdened by any Nazi-references. Corak said some cool stuff. You could even do a nice wordplay with "Wüste Verzweiflung". Wüste is a little pun with desert and waste, Verzweiflung means despair or desperation. Pronounciation via IPA would be [ˈvyːstə] [fɛɐ̯ˈʦvaɪ̯flʊŋ]

And it would be pretty much unspeakable for non-germans
Syphon8
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada298 Posts
April 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#59
On April 15 2013 23:43 Laserist wrote:
Please don't make wide wide open neutrals anymore. There is a race called protoss guys, which couldn't have depots to rise... Other than that 2 base baneling bust with ling support would win majority of the games on that map. Pretty zerg favored.


In what world is this a wide open nat?

A suitable successor to Daybreak, all in all. Fixes a lot of flaws, uses space better. Not a fan of the aesthetics, but who cares?

There should be more space at the 4ths.
',:/
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 239
UpATreeSC 231
IndyStarCraft 70
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2044
Rain 1552
Horang2 723
Shuttle 468
Rock 40
hero 33
Barracks 29
Aegong 26
Killer 11
ivOry 7
Dota 2
qojqva2523
Dendi1167
Fuzer 203
LuMiX1
League of Legends
rGuardiaN34
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps956
Foxcn371
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King67
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu252
Other Games
Grubby1207
Beastyqt556
DeMusliM404
C9.Mang058
QueenE56
Trikslyr40
BRAT_OK 35
MindelVK6
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV33
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 37
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• imaqtpie2171
• TFBlade1234
Other Games
• WagamamaTV389
• Shiphtur259
Upcoming Events
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3h 37m
The PondCast
14h 37m
RSL Revival
14h 37m
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
16h 37m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Cure
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
16h 37m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 5h
RSL Revival
1d 14h
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
herO vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
3 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
BSL 21
4 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.