• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:21
CEST 20:21
KST 03:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)83ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo39Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Old Replays From 1.4.6 The future of the SC game model
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? ProGamer Paychecks Story Data needed BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6980 users

[M] (2) Wolfschanze - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 15 2013 14:25 GMT
#41
The laziest part of the aesthetics on this is where you can see at 1 and 7 oclock where that cliff used to be round and he later decided to make it bump in there. He didn't bother to fix the texturing and you can still see the outline of the cliff on the unplayable bottom. No other reason for it to be that way.
SC2 Mapmaker
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 15 2013 14:43 GMT
#42
Please don't make wide wide open neutrals anymore. There is a race called protoss guys, which couldn't have depots to rise... Other than that 2 base baneling bust with ling support would win majority of the games on that map. Pretty zerg favored.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
April 15 2013 22:32 GMT
#43
On April 15 2013 20:58 iamcaustic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 11:23 Ovalient wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:07 dezi wrote:
I don't think we need nazi reminiscence in this game - aka change the name - esp. if using names that are most likely associated with Hitler.

If you really want to use a name of that time sth like El Alamain would be (accordingly to the theme) more fitting ...


I'm really sorry that I made all arguments..
I didn't know about that name, just know 'cool name'

My WW2 Historical knowledge is limited. Only know Attack on Pearl Harbor thing..
Sorry everybody. I will never do this thing again.
REALLY SORRY.

Don't feel too bad, Ovalient! Nobody is angry with you. Just take some time to think of a different cool map name~

seconded.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 15 2013 23:20 GMT
#44
On April 16 2013 07:32 EatThePath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 20:58 iamcaustic wrote:
On April 15 2013 11:23 Ovalient wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:07 dezi wrote:
I don't think we need nazi reminiscence in this game - aka change the name - esp. if using names that are most likely associated with Hitler.

If you really want to use a name of that time sth like El Alamain would be (accordingly to the theme) more fitting ...


I'm really sorry that I made all arguments..
I didn't know about that name, just know 'cool name'

My WW2 Historical knowledge is limited. Only know Attack on Pearl Harbor thing..
Sorry everybody. I will never do this thing again.
REALLY SORRY.

Don't feel too bad, Ovalient! Nobody is angry with you. Just take some time to think of a different cool map name~

seconded.

seconded-ed
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
April 15 2013 23:23 GMT
#45
You have a really good eye lore, now i can't unsee it ~.~
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 15 2013 23:53 GMT
#46
On April 16 2013 08:23 Uvantak wrote:
You have a really good eye lore, now i can't unsee it ~.~

Mua ha ha ha.......
SC2 Mapmaker
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
April 16 2013 01:42 GMT
#47
The name makes me think more of those Neo-Nazi Clubs/bars/Hangouts, they are often named Wolfsschanze. I am gonna be a grammer-nazi now (haha) and point out that Wolfsschanze is written with 2 s'es... oh god this post turned out very creepy. plx dont ban.
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Samro225am
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany982 Posts
April 16 2013 07:21 GMT
#48
it might be a minor flaw. nat mineral/cc and one third of the main look very tank-able. just saying, because the main/nat/thirds setup looks very compact.
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
April 16 2013 09:35 GMT
#49
You should really change the name of the map, otherwise no German tournament organizer will ever add it to a map pool simply because of that.
PuppyPrime
Profile Joined April 2013
27 Posts
April 16 2013 11:25 GMT
#50
Bullshit! Unless its called D-Day or something no German cares. Its not called "Heil Hitler" Idiots, so no need of a Namechange!
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
April 16 2013 11:30 GMT
#51
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 11:54:30
April 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#52
Are you serious?
After the swastika-broodwar-map clone, this one is now another step towards a very terfifying German "newspaper" report about SCII.

Harher tone and therefore spoilered:
+ Show Spoiler +
Give this map such a nickname is like glorifying the "cultural" heritage of one of the darkest eras of humanity. Even if you can't relate to what happened here (where I live) during that time, think about what such a name would cause. I don't really care if your map gets neglected/banned from every possible tournament or the blizzard arcade itself - No, I'd rather appreciate that. But I don't want such a stupidly named map to pave the way for dumber ones.
To help you finding a better name, here are some of my ideas:
*) Bel'Ovaliant is a bad and uncreative mapmaker who has to raise attention for his bad map by giving it horrendous names'-beach
*) Shaku'Really, Ovaliant, think before using such terms'-plateau
*) Steps of "Whatever dude, your map is bad anyways and will be forgotten soon, bye"


edit:
On April 16 2013 20:30 cythaze wrote:
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....


Yes, because people watching tournaments because of a map with such a name is exactly, what the SC2 scene needs.
I really always wanted to see GSL fans throwing trash-cans and beer bottles at the Korean police after every GSL tournament day.
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
April 16 2013 12:28 GMT
#53
On April 16 2013 20:51 Prugelhugel wrote:
Are you serious?
After the swastika-broodwar-map clone, this one is now another step towards a very terfifying German "newspaper" report about SCII.

Harher tone and therefore spoilered:
+ Show Spoiler +
Give this map such a nickname is like glorifying the "cultural" heritage of one of the darkest eras of humanity. Even if you can't relate to what happened here (where I live) during that time, think about what such a name would cause. I don't really care if your map gets neglected/banned from every possible tournament or the blizzard arcade itself - No, I'd rather appreciate that. But I don't want such a stupidly named map to pave the way for dumber ones.
To help you finding a better name, here are some of my ideas:
*) Bel'Ovaliant is a bad and uncreative mapmaker who has to raise attention for his bad map by giving it horrendous names'-beach
*) Shaku'Really, Ovaliant, think before using such terms'-plateau
*) Steps of "Whatever dude, your map is bad anyways and will be forgotten soon, bye"


edit:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:30 cythaze wrote:
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....


Yes, because people watching tournaments because of a map with such a name is exactly, what the SC2 scene needs.
I really always wanted to see GSL fans throwing trash-cans and beer bottles at the Korean police after every GSL tournament day.


Ok, where in Austria do you exactly live where people are offended by a computer game map that´s called Wolfsschanze...
Giving a map that name would cause nothing not a big political uproar and riots in the street lol.
blarkh
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 13:01:12
April 16 2013 13:00 GMT
#54
I live in Vienna and I'd be offended if ovalient hadn't already explained it to be a mistake on his part. People here tend to take Nazis seriously, and most of them don't like them a lot. Also I feel like Prugelhugel was making a comparison between football fans and SCII fans here and trying to show you how most of them aren't drunk racist pigs. (Most of the SC fans, that is. Very probably most football fans aren't either, but there sure is a loud minority.)

edit: Are you trying to insult us Germans and Austrians by implying we're all Nazis anyways or are you just ignorant enough to believe we don't care deeply about these things?
Eiskaffee
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany31 Posts
April 16 2013 18:48 GMT
#55
The name of the map is so stupid and its even wrong spelled.
Corak
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany188 Posts
April 16 2013 19:24 GMT
#56
On April 16 2013 20:25 PuppyPrime wrote:
Bullshit! Unless its called D-Day or something no German cares. Its not called "Heil Hitler" Idiots, so no need of a Namechange!


On April 16 2013 20:30 cythaze wrote:
Probably tournament organizers would even add it BECAUSE of the name as it would cause attention and generate viewers from the german community....


Troll much?
But it's rather stupid to do so on a serious subject and after there are 2.5 pages mainly about the title and an apology from the mapper.

If you want German words that maybe sound good to non-Germans here are some suggestion that kinda fit the map:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sandsturm - dust storm
Hitzeschild - heat shield
Wassermangel - water deficiency
Trockenzeit - dry season
Bodenverlust - loss in soil

this is harder than i thought :/
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
April 17 2013 00:55 GMT
#57
Wow Trockenzeit is such a cool name for a map. !
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Jaiden
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 08:23:09
April 17 2013 08:22 GMT
#58
There are a lot of cool German words you could use, who wouldn't be burdened by any Nazi-references. Corak said some cool stuff. You could even do a nice wordplay with "Wüste Verzweiflung". Wüste is a little pun with desert and waste, Verzweiflung means despair or desperation. Pronounciation via IPA would be [ˈvyːstə] [fɛɐ̯ˈʦvaɪ̯flʊŋ]

And it would be pretty much unspeakable for non-germans
Syphon8
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada298 Posts
April 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#59
On April 15 2013 23:43 Laserist wrote:
Please don't make wide wide open neutrals anymore. There is a race called protoss guys, which couldn't have depots to rise... Other than that 2 base baneling bust with ling support would win majority of the games on that map. Pretty zerg favored.


In what world is this a wide open nat?

A suitable successor to Daybreak, all in all. Fixes a lot of flaws, uses space better. Not a fan of the aesthetics, but who cares?

There should be more space at the 4ths.
',:/
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
16:30
Rotti and Rexy Monday
RotterdaM853
SteadfastSC134
Railgan59
ZombieGrub37
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 853
mouzHeroMarine 447
elazer 163
SteadfastSC 134
RushiSC 99
BRAT_OK 83
Railgan 59
mouzStarbuck 40
ZombieGrub37
gerald23 31
MindelVK 22
EmSc Tv 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2876
Mini 397
Hyuk 143
BeSt 113
ggaemo 102
Soulkey 96
scan(afreeca) 38
Hyun 32
IntoTheRainbow 19
Bale 10
[ Show more ]
yabsab 9
Dota 2
420jenkins312
Fuzer 309
Counter-Strike
fl0m1406
pashabiceps1348
x6flipin793
zeus549
edward113
kRYSTAL_0
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu269
Other Games
Grubby3451
singsing3087
FrodaN1241
B2W.Neo764
Beastyqt567
Sick192
ArmadaUGS83
Trikslyr49
Mew2King48
UpATreeSC43
JuggernautJason31
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 516
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream468
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 12
EmSc2Tv 12
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 42
• mYiSmile116
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2924
Other Games
• imaqtpie592
• Shiphtur364
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
15h 39m
RSL Revival
22h 39m
Bombastic Starleague
1d 1h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 5h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Bombastic Starleague
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.