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Bacchus OSL Group of Death?

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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 13 2008 01:05 GMT
#1
You need to change YellOw to Yarnc, or Yellow[arnc].

Group A obviously.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 13 2008 01:11 GMT
#2
Obviously group A. You got sAviOr who is trying to prove he can be the best again, Jaedong the hottest player in the world right now, and Sea who is just freakin awesome.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-13 01:13:46
January 13 2008 01:13 GMT
#3
Yeah seriously TheTyranid, it makes the fake look like the real one, gives new visitors to TL false hope. Group A is ridiculous, with the (P)BeSt player right now ((Z)Jaedong), the (P)BeSt player in the recent past ((Z)sAviOr), and two amazingly hot players (no, im not talking about their bodies you sick bastards) who are on insane win streaks. Group C would've been the group of death if those players were in top form, but (Z)July and (P)Bisu are obviously not, and (T)XellOs is still a BIG ?Question Mark? to me.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
January 13 2008 01:32 GMT
#4
Looking at just the names you'd be tempted to say "A".
However, I actually think group C with July and Luxury in good form will be incredibly hard for Bisu and XellOs to overcome. I ended up voting group C.
Jaedong and Sea in all honor, but I just don't know about sAviOr and BeSt
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 13 2008 02:27 GMT
#5
I won't say it's obviously A. I did the same as GinNtonic.. I was initially tempted to do group A but then I thought about it for a minute...

In this OSL, there are a ton of good players, but most of them can beat the likes of BeSt pretty easily. Any of the other 3 could beat BeSt without too much trouble, and then they just need one more win to qualify. And honestly, Savior hasn't looked like a huge obstacle the last month, either.

Whereas in group C, there is not a mid-class player in the whole group. July is probably the least favored in the group, and when the least favored the group is Julyzerg, that's pretty deadly. Don't give me crap about his slump, either, because he's been playing pretty well, lately, including qualifying for both starleagues.
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Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
January 13 2008 03:05 GMT
#6
i said Group C

for the same reason as moletrap.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
January 13 2008 03:10 GMT
#7
i actually said C
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
January 13 2008 03:51 GMT
#8
I think both A and C groups are pretty tough for quite a lot reasons . Honestly I voted for group A .
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-13 04:09:37
January 13 2008 04:09 GMT
#9
Group C. Best is probably the weakest of the 8 in groups A and C. Savior has been playing terrible, although he might show up. Jaedong and Sea are great, but then there's Bisu, Xellos, July, and Luxury. Anyone could walk out of that group and I wouldn't be surprised.

Group B is pretty much Stork's and Flash's for the taking and group D is a joke compared to the others.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
January 13 2008 04:09 GMT
#10
I said C, because all the players seem to be in pretty good shape atm.

Group A on the other hand has Jaedong, sea (overrated mofu) and savior, who all look good on paper... And some rokiie named BeSt, but who cares? So its really only a fight between the three savior, sea and jaedong. And the way Savior has been playing you shouldnt have alot of faith in him atm. He'll probably lose to BeSt. So not even all the players has a good shot. I would say Jaedong and Sea are the favorits, but you never know about savior. So there's only 2 favorits, and one small underdog, where in group C ALL the players will have a change, ergo its TGOD.

You all know Im right.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
January 13 2008 04:58 GMT
#11
Wow group A is a deathtrap o_O
^-^
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 13 2008 05:28 GMT
#12
I voted for group D.
Fuck I love corrupting statistics!
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
January 13 2008 06:45 GMT
#13
On January 13 2008 11:27 f10esqftw wrote:
July is probably the least favored in the group, and when the least favored the group is Julyzerg, that's pretty deadly. Don't give me crap about his slump, either, because he's been playing pretty well, lately, including qualifying for both starleagues.


My thoughts exactly on voting group C
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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
January 13 2008 06:46 GMT
#14
Give me alot of bashing, but i'd liquibet BeST over Sea o_o.
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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
January 13 2008 07:22 GMT
#15
On January 13 2008 15:46 Tensai176 wrote:
Give me alot of bashing, but i'd liquibet BeST over Sea o_o.


You need to be shot for that statement.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 13 2008 07:25 GMT
#16
group a has the best terran and best zerg currently in one group
ils
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
January 13 2008 07:31 GMT
#17
On January 13 2008 11:27 f10esqftw wrote:
I won't say it's obviously A. I did the same as GinNtonic.. I was initially tempted to do group A but then I thought about it for a minute...

In this OSL, there are a ton of good players, but most of them can beat the likes of BeSt pretty easily. Any of the other 3 could beat BeSt without too much trouble, and then they just need one more win to qualify. And honestly, Savior hasn't looked like a huge obstacle the last month, either.

Whereas in group C, there is not a mid-class player in the whole group. July is probably the least favored in the group, and when the least favored the group is Julyzerg, that's pretty deadly. Don't give me crap about his slump, either, because he's been playing pretty well, lately, including qualifying for both starleagues.


...actually, yeah this pretty much sums up everything i was thinking.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 13 2008 08:08 GMT
#18
On January 13 2008 10:13 Try wrote:
Yeah seriously TheTyranid, it makes the fake look like the real one, gives new visitors to TL false hope. Group A is ridiculous, with the (P)BeSt player right now ((Z)Jaedong), the (P)BeSt player in the recent past ((Z)sAviOr), and two amazingly hot players (no, im not talking about their bodies you sick bastards) who are on insane win streaks. Group C would've been the group of death if those players were in top form, but (Z)July and (P)Bisu are obviously not, and (T)XellOs is still a BIG ?Question Mark? to me.


best isnt on an insane winstreak, his career is pretty short and he's sub-50% in PvZ and PvT
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Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
January 13 2008 15:29 GMT
#19
Yarnc plz
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
January 13 2008 17:04 GMT
#20
I feel like it has to be Group A because it has the currently the best zerg, Jaedong, the best terran, Sea, the Maestro, and the up and coming Best.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 13 2008 17:32 GMT
#21
I had to go with group C because I have no idea who will make it out of that group. At least with group A, I know that (P)BeSt won't be making it out.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
January 13 2008 19:00 GMT
#22
On January 13 2008 17:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2008 10:13 Try wrote:
Yeah seriously TheTyranid, it makes the fake look like the real one, gives new visitors to TL false hope. Group A is ridiculous, with the (P)BeSt player right now ((Z)Jaedong), the (P)BeSt player in the recent past ((Z)sAviOr), and two amazingly hot players (no, im not talking about their bodies you sick bastards) who are on insane win streaks. Group C would've been the group of death if those players were in top form, but (Z)July and (P)Bisu are obviously not, and (T)XellOs is still a BIG ?Question Mark? to me.


best isnt on an insane winstreak, his career is pretty short and he's sub-50% in PvZ and PvT


Winstreak would probably be the wrong word to use, but he's been playing really well and winning most of his games; 9-3 since his loss to Sea in OSC
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
January 13 2008 20:51 GMT
#23
TO BE HONEST : There is no real death group.. they are all very equal in terms of skill imho..
group b and d might be slightly weaker..
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 13 2008 21:47 GMT
#24
Group C has most names, but apart from Best group A has Savior and two of the top 5 players currently.
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demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
January 13 2008 22:40 GMT
#25
C is most definately group of death IMHO
While A has flash with Jaedong, sAviOr and Sea, BeSt is subpar at best and sAviOr who isn't as good as he was
Now look at group C with JulyZerg and XellOs who both have recently been doing well, BiSu who is well BiSu.... and luxury who pretty decent..
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-13 23:26:30
January 13 2008 23:25 GMT
#26
I think people are seriously underrating best. Sure he might not make it out of the group but he certainly has the skill to do so. Especially sense hes the only protoss in the group so the others will not have as much vs protoss prep time. Best has put up solid results recently, hes just considered subpar simply because hes new.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 14 2008 00:17 GMT
#27
I picked A, but i was thinking of C as a possibility.
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
January 14 2008 03:04 GMT
#28
savior has the ability to beat jaedong i feel, tho crazy as it sounds. but i fear he will lose to both sea and best.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-14 03:53:10
January 14 2008 03:52 GMT
#29
I voted D to be different
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 14 2008 05:10 GMT
#30
On January 14 2008 12:52 Carnac wrote:
I voted D to be different


<3
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 14 2008 11:48 GMT
#31
Keep an eye on (P)BeSt.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 15 2008 00:35 GMT
#32
On January 14 2008 02:32 Mindcrime wrote:
I had to go with group C because I have no idea who will make it out of that group. At least with group A, I know that (P)BeSt won't be making it out.



yeah, and in group C, you know it will be july and xellos not making it out
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
January 15 2008 03:05 GMT
#33
Isnt it Luxuries debute MSL? You dunno how he will handle it.
I think group A is ridiculously easiest to pick for death group.
Lew, group C? Are you retarded? it's hard but JAEDONG SAVIOR SEA?
Best PL Terran, Best Zerg, ex-Best Zerg, A protoss.

I don't care how bad Savior plays atm, Luxury and July still aren't Savior.
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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
January 15 2008 15:57 GMT
#34
On January 15 2008 09:35 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2008 02:32 Mindcrime wrote:
I had to go with group C because I have no idea who will make it out of that group. At least with group A, I know that (P)BeSt won't be making it out.



yeah, and in group C, you know it will be july and xellos not making it out


Dont be so sure about that!
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
January 16 2008 07:55 GMT
#35
On January 14 2008 02:04 Titusmaster6 wrote:
I feel like it has to be Group A because it has the currently the best zerg, Jaedong, the best terran, Sea, the Maestro, and the up and coming Best.

qft
gzzz
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania2 Posts
January 16 2008 11:28 GMT
#36
group A for sure...best zerg player lately, Jaedong, plus one of the best terran in the league, Sea...also BIG sAviOr and incoming Best..heh...this will be quite a show…
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 16 2008 17:16 GMT
#37
On January 15 2008 09:35 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2008 02:32 Mindcrime wrote:
I had to go with group C because I have no idea who will make it out of that group. At least with group A, I know that (P)BeSt won't be making it out.



yeah, and in group C, you know it will be july and xellos not making it out



Oh really?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
DA_Greeks
Profile Joined April 2007
22 Posts
January 16 2008 19:17 GMT
#38
C by far... A is predictable Jaedong will destroy it... C has Luxury, who is underestimated, JULY and Xellos, who has been in this progaming faze for a while are always strong, and as a topping, we have BISU Top Protoss player. How could someone pick A? What, their favorite player's in there? Otherwise, we know the outcome.
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 17 2008 02:57 GMT
#39
On January 13 2008 14:28 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I voted for group D.
Fuck I love corrupting statistics!


LMAO good for you!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 17 2008 03:01 GMT
#40
On January 14 2008 02:04 Titusmaster6 wrote:
I feel like it has to be Group A because it has the currently the best zerg, Jaedong, the best terran, Sea, the Maestro, and the up and coming Best.

how did you come up with Sea as the "best terran?" O_o
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
January 17 2008 03:13 GMT
#41
Probably C. Sea is under pressure as a likely ace in Proleague - I wouldn't be surprised if he is inadequately prepared in OSL as a result. Much is in the same boat, though his group is far weaker.
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