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Will a non-Korean player win either WCS AM or EU?

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robert1005
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands98 Posts
August 09 2013 21:05 GMT
#1
I think a foreigner will win WCS EU.

A Korean will win WCS NA.
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
August 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#2
On August 10 2013 06:05 robert1005 wrote:
I think a foreigner will win WCS EU.

A Korean will win WCS NA.

Same
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GrimwulfSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada43 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 22:05:47
August 09 2013 21:54 GMT
#3
MC and MMA are both highly beatable koreans. Scarlett has the potential to be a korean killer, but I dont know if she can take out tajea or oz. and the dongs zvz is pretty tough.
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Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 22:14:10
August 09 2013 22:13 GMT
#4
I think a foreigner will win WCS NA lolololol
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 22:22:00
August 09 2013 22:21 GMT
#5
TaeJa or Polt will win NA, if this doesnt happen i will be completely shocked
Naniwa is the only foriegner that I think could win EU (actually I think he will win) so basically it depends on Naniwa imo
#TheOneTrueDong
SocialFox
Profile Joined July 2012
Russian Federation16 Posts
August 09 2013 22:59 GMT
#6
EU has a good shot with a lot of PvPs of Koreans vs foreigners. All what's needed is for MMA to lose to someone. To MC for example. Still I will bet on Korean winning EU
iyasq8
Profile Joined December 2012
113 Posts
August 09 2013 23:52 GMT
#7
Stephano is not here so no
Piece
onlyRox
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany26 Posts
August 10 2013 00:04 GMT
#8
they should have written kr in the title too to troll the ppl :D
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TimKim0713
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)221 Posts
August 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#9
Why are all chinse players use "cheesy" builds...

Hmm
ZeeSC2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States134 Posts
August 10 2013 03:50 GMT
#10
Polt counts as a foreigner right?
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 10 2013 03:58 GMT
#11
Nani has shown that MMA doesn't understand that taking full damage from storms is optional; i think that Europe will hold unless duckdeok has godlike pvp. MC is lucky to still be in the tournament honestly.
On August 10 2013 12:23 TimKim0713 wrote:
Why are all chinse players use "cheesy" builds...

Hmm

Aw come on, Jim had to sit there and watch that terrible defense from Alicia two games in a row. That's just good decision making and learning

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DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
August 10 2013 05:26 GMT
#12
On August 10 2013 07:13 Pjorren wrote:
I think a foreigner will win WCS NA lolololol

I think scarlett or one of the chinese, especially jim, could take it, and polt is now american cause i want him to be, and he could totally win.
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
qiza
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany37 Posts
August 10 2013 07:18 GMT
#13
I think hasu may be able to upset! But nani will take WCS EU I think
Zergrush!
Tepiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Finland3 Posts
August 10 2013 07:43 GMT
#14
wcs eu should be won by non korean (mma tvp is just bad and welmu is pretty much best pvp outside of korea and nani will prolly win whole things anyways.)
So op sososo op
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
August 10 2013 07:45 GMT
#15
let's go hasu ! win europe !
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
August 10 2013 07:53 GMT
#16
Jimcredible and Nani have good shots
Maegi
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland174 Posts
August 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#17
Naniwa and Scarlett/Jim!
NaNiwa <3
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 14:31:55
August 10 2013 14:30 GMT
#18
There are decent chances. I'd say 40/40 (for at least one of the two events to be won by a foreigner).
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
August 10 2013 14:47 GMT
#19
Koreans killing eSports
t to the redogz, tredogz
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#20
Maybe Grubby can make a good run through he or Naniwa have the best shot in Europe. As far as WCS AM, I don't see a foreigner winning it.
Quakecomm
Profile Joined April 2012
United States344 Posts
August 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#21
On August 10 2013 06:15 banjoetheredskin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 06:05 robert1005 wrote:
I think a foreigner will win WCS EU.

A Korean will win WCS NA.

Same

yep
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 10 2013 19:24 GMT
#22
Polt wns america
grubby wins europe
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MonarK
Profile Joined January 2013
United States3 Posts
August 10 2013 20:39 GMT
#23
On August 10 2013 07:13 Pjorren wrote:
I think a foreigner will win WCS NA lolololol

Kappa

User was temp banned for this post.
WaterLord0
Profile Joined January 2013
9 Posts
August 10 2013 22:05 GMT
#24
Heart says: Yes
Head says: No
LittleRedBoy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States229 Posts
August 11 2013 00:16 GMT
#25
Considering that there is only one foreigner out of four in WCS Europe and only two foreigners out of six in WCS America, I'm 99.9% certain that a foreigner won't win either tournament.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 11 2013 04:31 GMT
#26
Once Naniwa lost, no. MC will win EU and Jaedong will win NA.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 11 2013 13:21 GMT
#27
korea! korea! korea!
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Ryusei
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation21 Posts
August 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#28
oh yeah, EU finalists - 2 koreans.
When will blizz wake up and ban koreans fro, playing EU and NA tourneys lol
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#29
On August 12 2013 00:41 Ryusei wrote:
oh yeah, EU finalists - 2 koreans.
When will blizz wake up and ban koreans fro, playing EU and NA tourneys lol

Never, because it was never Blizzard's intention to be that way.
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vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
August 12 2013 06:14 GMT
#30
Polt is an american,its k.
what quote?
xxxKagexxx
Profile Joined August 2012
France43 Posts
August 12 2013 08:50 GMT
#31
Korean everywhere !!!
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
August 14 2013 03:55 GMT
#32
nope
Sanyzoon
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany4 Posts
August 14 2013 07:35 GMT
#33
Naniwa will win EU!!
Hexo411
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia59 Posts
August 14 2013 10:15 GMT
#34
Lazy-smart foreigners vs hardworking-smart koreans, go figure
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
August 15 2013 04:45 GMT
#35
I voted with my heart, not my head.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Eloot
Profile Joined March 2012
United States13 Posts
August 15 2013 18:23 GMT
#36
On August 14 2013 19:15 Hexo411 wrote:
Lazy-smart foreigners vs hardworking-smart koreans, go figure



You're missing a few hard-working unintelligent foreigners.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
August 16 2013 23:15 GMT
#37
maybe in WCS EU but not WCS NA. =(
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 18 2013 02:54 GMT
#38
i really dout it
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Luftmensch
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
277 Posts
August 18 2013 10:15 GMT
#39
give us the same poll for wcs finals!
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
August 18 2013 16:28 GMT
#40
Will a non-Korean player win either WCS AM or EU?

lol no.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 19 2013 13:20 GMT
#41
What happens if Artosis votes for "No"?

Does it suddenly go to 100% "Yes"?
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
August 20 2013 04:33 GMT
#42
Nope.
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
August 20 2013 05:41 GMT
#43
On August 19 2013 22:20 KalWarkov wrote:
What happens if Artosis votes for "No"?

Does it suddenly go to 100% "Yes"?


I'm not sure how strong the curse is, the only time I have seen it in action is with single players, not a whole nationality.

Artosis needs to vote
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 20 2013 13:28 GMT
#44
I didn't see this in time. The layout isn't as visible as before.
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